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[TheKillerAngel]

I love taking it on my Turian sentinel  with maxed ammo (108 rounds) and recoil dampers, walking into a group of baddies and spraying an entire enemy team down at point blank range (it makes me feel like some gangster with a tommy gun), but I think most people would agree that its large magazine is not a good enough compensation for its low damage per shot (about the same as the Avenger) and general inaccuracy (even with the scope, a 35% accuracy increase on such an inaccruate weapon is pretty negligible). A tempest with both max ammo upgrades hits 90+45% rounds (and thus has more ammo) and is almost as strong at close range while weighing practially nothing (I think it does lack the same stagger effect, though).

Right now it doesn't feel like a gold weapon. The Carnifex satisflyingly splats with headshots. The Widow punches through Guardian's shields and light cover. But the Revenant doesn't have the same things going for it to truly make it feel as powerful as the other top tier weapons. If it's going to be that heavy, it either needs to be more effective as a long range suppression weapon, or it needs to feel like a chainsaw that can shred people in less than 1 second up close.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 20 février 2012 - 06:27 .

[FishbowlSoul9]

Agreed, it takes too long for me to kill anything that isn't point blank. Even when spraying into a room full of enemies (what I feel it should really be good at) I'm really just tickling them. I think the general rule with balancing assault rifles is a pick two of the three: damage, accuracy, firerate. Mattock has good damage and accuracy, poor firerate. Avenger is decent in all three, keeping it pretty balanced. The revenant only has firerate and is ludicrously heavy. Unbalanced. No reason to take it over an avenger other than to feel cool

[GroverA 125]

I agree, it has little to go on for its rarity, unlike the other rare firearms available (Widow destroys everything, claymore destroys everything a little closer, carnifex destroys everything inbetween, Locust destroys everything with multiple bullets, revenant destroys everything but enemies (walls, floors, nothingness, and so on) that you're aiming at). It has no incentive to use, the large mag is purposeless because in the same amount of time, you could have killed the same target with 30 rounds from an Avenger (which is lighter, faster to reload, more accurate and ore ammo efficient)

[SNascimento]

Yeah, the way it is it's pretty useless... especially concerning its weight

Modifié par SNascimento, 20 février 2012 - 06:42 .

[Cloaking_Thane]

Does it upgrade to X?

[Alamar2078]

I was happy when I first unlocked the Revvy but realized I'd be better off with the Mattock + SMG instead

[GroverA 125]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Does it upgrade to X?

Yes, when you've bought statistically over 33,333 veteran packs (if the % chance of getting it is 3%), then you get your Revenant X.

[Cloaking_Thane]

GroverA 125 wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Does it upgrade to X?

Yes, when you've bought statistically over 33,333 veteran packs (if the % chance of getting it is 3%), then you get your Revenant X.

Well you know what I mean, I'm just thinking it might be more useful fully upgraded. (also gold unlocks are supposedly easier in the main game)

[k177sh0t]

Yep, went back to my Avenger assault rifle

The Revenant is quite bland/useless regardless if you have the recoil and ammo attachments. The only good thing about the about the M-76 is its sound effect, nothing more beyond that

[Shepard Lives]

Absolutely agree. When I unlocked it I was like, "Yay Revenant!". Then I found out how useless it was. As the OP says, it needs a substantial boost in either damage or accuracy.

[LucidStrike]

...WT* are you people on about? I have a stabilizer and a scope on my Revenant, and it's easy as **** to aim. Yes, even USING the scope is practical. Maybe your Revenants are defective, but mine is monstrous AND accurate enough.

Modifié par LucidStrike, 20 février 2012 - 07:25 .

[xSkullx]

I got my revenant 3 and it is a little more accurate

[LucidStrike]

xSkullx wrote...

I got my revenant 3 and it is a little more accurate

Mine's a Revenant I, and it's already accurate enough not to be a concern. If higher level Revenants are even more acccurate, I REALLY don't see what the complaint is here. o_o

Modifié par LucidStrike, 20 février 2012 - 07:27 .

[GroverA 125]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

GroverA 125 wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

Does it upgrade to X?

Yes, when you've bought statistically over 33,333 veteran packs (if the % chance of getting it is 3%), then you get your Revenant X.

Well you know what I mean, I'm just thinking it might be more useful fully upgraded. (also gold unlocks are supposedly easier in the main game)

Still, if the chances of recieving it per pack are 10% (which is probably how close it would be with a rare-item-only pack), then statistically, you're still buying 1000 packs to fill it up. That's the equivalent of over 750 complete silver matches (if a rare item only pack would cost as much as veteran) to recieve a level 10 revenant.

Modifié par GroverA 125, 20 février 2012 - 07:29 .

[KayB1991]

GroverA 125 wrote...

I agree, it has little to go on for its rarity, unlike the other rare firearms available (Widow destroys everything, claymore destroys everything a little closer, carnifex destroys everything inbetween, Locust destroys everything with multiple bullets, revenant destroys everything but enemies (walls, floors, nothingness, and so on) that you're aiming at). It has no incentive to use, the large mag is purposeless because in the same amount of time, you could have killed the same target with 30 rounds from an Avenger (which is lighter, faster to reload, more accurate and ore ammo efficient)

Totally agree, I could probably finish a round with a phalanx in the same amount of time that it would take to kill a group of enemies at normal distance with a revenant, that's really disappointing:unsure:

[Terry Yaki]

I only used the Revenant until I unlocked the Mattock and never really looked back. TBH, I actually liked the Mattock a little more in ME2 (I only used the Revenant because it was the only other AR available before the Mattock and did more damage than the Avenger). But if I somehow got tired of the Mattock, I'd go back to the Revenant if I felt I need more than 123 rounds. For now, I've only unlocked higher-ranked Mattocks and Avengers so far (my Revenant is still at Rank I).

[Omega-202]

I couldn't disagree more with these assessments. The Revenant does very respectable damage, definitely more per shot than the Avenger, has more ammo than I ever find that I need and functions incredibly well at both short range and long range (when fired in bursts using the scope and stabilizer).

This weapon was built for the Turian Sentinel. What most of you are disregarding is the stagger effect. You're not meant to be a solo killing machine with it. Its meant to be a suppression weapon used for supporting your team. If you open fire on a clump of Cerberus mooks, they'er all going to be staggered and unable to shoot back. That opens them up to the rest of your squad and keeps you alive longer.

The Revenant does exactly what its supposed to do. Its not an unbelievably overpowered "I win" gun. Its a LMG and does exactly what an LMG is supposed to do: control the battlefield. It keeps enemies from firing back, keeps them in cover and punishes them severely if they let themselves get shot. You're not going to rack up the kills or points but you're going to be a huge asset to your team.

[Arppis]

Scope helps a lot, it makes Avenger shoot to the same spot you are aiming at without any recoil.

[PapVogel-Fessa]

What i read here is mostly people saying that: "It needs more damage because when i go into a room packed with enemies and unload on em all i dont really kill fast". Has any of you ever thought about aiming and doing 3-5 round bursts to the face? It really works wonders. But i still like the mattock better as I can down a guarding at a pretty good distance with 2-3 well aimed shots through the slit in the shield.

[Spartanburger]

I have found that the revenant tears apart unprotected enemies, but even with stability upgrades and a scope it still cannot really hit anything.

Still, when a large group of enemies are coming down the hallway at you and they have no cover I feel just like Heavy Weapons Guy.

[Omega-202]

Spartanburger wrote...

I have found that the revenant tears apart unprotected enemies, but even with stability upgrades and a scope it still cannot really hit anything.

Still, when a large group of enemies are coming down the hallway at you and they have no cover I feel just like Heavy Weapons Guy.

A) You need to burst fire and you can't expect to land every shot.  I had a round with two people firing Avengers and one firing a Viper along with me on the Revenant on Firebase White.  I was behind the cover on the ground level firing at the enemies as they came down the walkway while the three squadmates sat up top.  With me burst firing with the scope, I was taking out more enemies than the three of them and I was helping stagger them with my big bullets.  The enemies were dropping faster than they were able to turn the corner.  

At close range, you absolutely are the Heavy.  Do they make sandviches for dextro amino acid organisms?  

[Sueco]

The revenant is pretty useless. Too inacurate, too low damage. Even on a turian sentinel it kills slower than the stock AR unless your enemy is standing still right in front of you.

[Spartanburger]

Omega-202 wrote...

A) You need to burst fire and you can't expect to land every shot.

I don't expect to land every shot, but even when burst firing three shots at a time it's nigh-impossible to hit the guardian's slot or hit a head at all. Even when scoped in, in cover, in close range it still only hits 50% of the time at most. My Avenger can drop two guys in the time it takes to land 3 shots with the revenant.

[Arppis]

My biggest beef with it is the weight.

It's ok gun if you put a scope to it and lean against walls. Unlike in CoD games, scopes actualy make your gun more stable in this game.

[Thoragoros]

GroverA 125 wrote...

revenant destroys everything but enemies (walls, floors, nothingness, and so on) that you're aiming at).

Worth repeating...and made me laugh.