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[Fox544]

CrackaDoodizzle wrote...

I like this system but in practical application it's awful...personally I don't like the fact that a level 3 can unlock the widow and if I'm a level 72 and I still, by bad luck, have yet to unlock it (hypothetically).

I think the widow has an insane drop rate thats higher than new characters. I've seen very few people without it. I unlocked mine on like my 5th vet crate.

Modifié par Fox544, 22 février 2012 - 05:58 .

[SeiLah]

1: Focus on playing the game
2: Buy packs everytime you get the money.
3: Eventually unlock all you want.
4: ????
5: Profit.

[Joe_8998]

MrAtomica wrote...

Joe_8998 wrote...

I just can't understand why this system was ever considered to begin with.

To artificially lengthen the amount of time people devote to multiplayer on the whole. This allows for greater potential DLC sales (and there will be an ungodly amount), and ensures that you have a larger fanbase for future projects beyond just this one game. Why allow us a way to enjoy the game on our own terms, when they can shoehorn us into playing for extended periods of time. A statement like the above one is like asking casinos why they choose to make payouts totally random. It might be better for us if they weren't, but there's money to be made in forcing people into a timesink.

Don't get me wrong, this system is a far cry from the act of losing real money on gambling. But it is still annoying. I would rather play multiplayer for the sake of playing it, and to just have fun with my friends. I dislike needing to put in time simply to become a more effective teammate. That ensures that people who have more spare time are going to have more fun, and perform at a higher level. It also means that I won't be as effective as I could be to the team.

Well, yeah. That is the long and short of it, I guess.

Although the optimist in me is still hoping that the current system was the result of a design oversight, and not the product of sinister motives.

Modifié par Joe_8998, 22 février 2012 - 05:48 .

[SunFlowrSamurai]

FearTheLiving wrote...

I don't mind the random, but why on earth do we have to unlock male/female humans? They are exactly the same yet I have to unlock my gender of choice?

Yeah picking your gender could have been under customization.  But atleast now you can have alternate builds for all of your humans.

Modifié par SunFlowrSamurai, 22 février 2012 - 06:43 .

[Rip504]

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 07:08 .

[Fox544]

Rip504 wrote...

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

This person mirrors my feelings exactly.

[Eclipse_9990]

You have a point. The level of excitement I had when I first unlocked Turian Sentinel was awesome. I just felt so... Happy.

[Had-to-say]

Rip504 wrote...

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

I love this post, but don't respect your position. www.youtube.com/watch

[JocktheMotie]

It makes sense logically, but I'm realllllly going to hate it when I'm N7 Rank 60+ and still don't have all my Adepts and Engineers and Carnifex unlocked.

[N172]

MP-unlock imrovement idea #idontcountit: they should reduce XP earned and increase Credits earned.

[Hillbillyhat]

I could have sworn that you could unlock the alien MP characters by recruiting races in the game. That is also one of the reasons why I don't have much of a problem with this system.

[DxWill103]

Spartanburger wrote...

I like this human. She understands.

couldn't have said it better myself, OP.  accurately summarized the main reasons the system in place is what it is.

Since I know I'll be playing as much MP as you, I also am glad that I won't unlock everything I want right away and lose that appeal hoping for a specific item or race.  I support the system because I can think outside the box.  Those who are inadept at it, or don't think they'll be playing the MP that long are most likely going to want it changed (not that it will).

[Had-to-say]

Hillbillyhat wrote...

I could have sworn that you could unlock the alien MP characters by recruiting races in the game. That is also one of the reasons why I don't have much of a problem with this system.

I think I read something along these lines as well on these forums. 

[Prom001]

Spartanburger wrote...

I like this human. She understands.

I like this comment

[zr0iq]

SeiLah wrote...

1: Focus on playing the game
2: Buy packs everytime you get the money.
3: Eventually unlock all you want.
4: ????
5: Profit.

3: TRAPHOLE! Never get the Asari Biotic even when you have unlocked everything else...

[RubiconI7]

How about having the Vetran/Recurit pack along with sub-categories; best of both worlds.
Say,
A soldier pack
An engineer pack
An infiltrator pack...

A race pack...

[GamerGirl702]

I live in Las Vegas so I'm very familiar with the concept of spending money, pushing a button and praying you get what you want. Love it!

[Lunatic LK47]

Had-to-say wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

I love this post, but don't respect your position. www.youtube.com/watch

Go screw yourself, ******.

[JohnniBGoode]

I like this human... She understands.

[foreshadowjr]

Rip504 wrote...

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

This is why there should be a compramise.  I've enjoyed the system only because I was lucky enough to unlock the salarian infiltrator before I became level 20.  Really after unlocking this the game became more fun.  Has the fun factor warn off yet?  Nope, therefore I don't think I'd have less fun then if I had it when I was level 1.

[Had-to-say]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Had-to-say wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Yes another day down,more countless hours,money,and emotion spent on...
Nothing I want... The system sucks. No Quarian,No Turian. The only 2 I really want to play with & nothing.
You state that it is better then having to get to a certain level,but I'm a 66 or so and see countless low level players with the items I am looking to enjoy and can not. Why? Because I have s*** luck? Thanks for reminding me hourly Bioware.

I now have 3 classes at level 17 or 18 so I wouldn't burn myself out on the individual class before I got my hands on my character. Now days later,mic-less players,glitches,same 2 maps forced powers and default classes,Limited customization and still not what I want.

I am really demotivated,this system is not pushing me foward and keeping me around.
Not to mention Cerberus...

MP sucks because of the lack of options and customization promised but not delivered.
Just forced defaults locked by a gold standard. Shut up and play and like it the way we tell you to.
Nope I do not & will not enjoy the random system.
MP is alot of fun and I can not wait to fight different enemies,but it is tiresome going into every match watching ppl play as the charcter you want. There is nothing I can do about it ,but shut up and take it and Hope I get lucky? BS.

I love this post, but don't respect your position. www.youtube.com/watch

Go screw yourself, ******.

Really guys is this something worth complaining about, you are that impatient? Wow. I hate to be insensitive but you guys need to learn some patience.
I hate to take it here, but there are real inequities in the world.

[Sporothrix]

I love how people who got lucky or actually don't care too much about the type character they play are the ones who like that system. But for the ones who do care it basically kills all fun, because there is a chance you would NEVER get a character you want to play as, especially while you work and don't have time to play 10 hours a day. 
Being forced to play a character you don't care about to have a minimal chance to get one you actually want - oh so much fun!

And women who don't want to play as guys have it the worst, because there is much lesser number of female characters so lesser chance to get them as well.

Modifié par misoretu9, 23 février 2012 - 04:17 .

[dachabob]

I really like the they system.

[N172]

misoretu9 wrote...

I love how people who got lucky or actually don't care too much about the type character they play are the ones who like that system.

Well, i am one of the exceptions myself since i got my asari adept (+the 3rd outfit option) and the quarian engineer already, while i think there should be some less-random improvements.
But i have not seen anyone at high N7-rating who desires a specific character, he did not unlock already, favor the system as it is right now.

Modifié par N172, 23 février 2012 - 05:41 .

[Hirdas]

I finaly got my quarian engineer, my human was already level 20 so she will be as well.