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stysiaq

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So, I finally unlocked my Krogan soldier today. I originally intended to play this class when ME3 comes out, because it's my favorite ME species and so on. I also worship Wres and believe that he is real.

So, as you can guess I immediately played a game or two with the fellow and I. Was. Shocked!

After all that struggle with Krogans in ME1 and ME2, that established them as hard-to-kill mofos, I was sure about just one thing in the world. That Krogans regenerate.

And guess what? They don't! Did Garrus say anything about "never seeing a krogan regen that fast"? Forget it, Garrus, they do not.

Please, nerf all the powers, give the Krogans a little less flat HP/shields, but let them regenerate! It is essential ME lore!

I really was hoping, that this will be the main Krogan feature - being able to eat some bullets for the team, so they don't have to waste those quick heal packs. Krogans regenerate. Wrex exists. Krogans regenerate. Wrex exists.

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Their health doesn't regenerate, but their shields can regen pretty quickly with the right ability choices.

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EpyonNext

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Krogen Soldiers have two purposes.
1. Punch things in the face
2. Carnage

As long as you do those, a lot, you should just be an indestructible juggernaut of death.
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Jiggabod

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Zealot lmfao

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stysiaq

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So nerf those shields regeneration or provide less shields but give the Krogans health regeneration. It would be true to the established lore.

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They don't regen that fast. I don't think the way they did it in ME2 is true to the lore.

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TwwlX

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I'll take balanced gameplay over lore, anytime.

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Just keep headbutting guys, go into a rage, and proceed to headbutt more guys. Before you know it the round will be over and your krogan will be laughing like an evil dictator.

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EpyonNext wrote...

Krogen Soldiers have two purposes.
1. Punch things in the face
2. Carnage

As long as you do those, a lot, you should just be an indestructible juggernaut of death.


I don't care about their 'purposes', and I'm all right with their effectiveness right now. But why the MP should ignore the simple fact, that with all those extra internal organs and so on Krogans does regenerate their HEALTH?

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Yhea. ME2's krogen regen was more of a gameplay mechanic. It made them more then just shoot-in-the-face-till-it-stops-moving-then-shoot-one-more-time-for-good-measure enemies.

Edit: If you REALLY want to stamp into lore more, those extra organs made them damn hard to kill, not regeneration machines. Tranlating that into gameplay would denote a larger health pool, which if I am not mistakened, they have the largest of any race in multiplayer.

Modifié par EpyonNext, 20 février 2012 - 11:29 .


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Thargorichiban

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stysiaq wrote...

EpyonNext wrote...

Krogen Soldiers have two purposes.
1. Punch things in the face
2. Carnage

As long as you do those, a lot, you should just be an indestructible juggernaut of death.


I don't care about their 'purposes', and I'm all right with their effectiveness right now. But why the MP should ignore the simple fact, that with all those extra internal organs and so on Krogans does regenerate their HEALTH?


Your specific quote in the first post is a bit misleading. Garrus is talking about a krogan who regenerates faster than any other krogan he has ever met. Called him a freak of nature. Logically most other krogan don't regenerate nearly as quickly.

Even Grunt doesn't necessarily regenerate that quickly unless you choose certain level-up options.

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TwwlX wrote...

I'll take balanced gameplay over lore, anytime.


But why not implement that tiny tiny bit of lore if you can do it without sacrificing the balance?

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I don't remember krogans regenerating in ME2 the way they did in ME1, and it still breaks my heart.

Also, as much as I love headbutting things and laughing at the corpses, its somewhat more silly than a tiny bit of health regeneration.
I loled at the 'evil dictator' comparison.

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Headbutting things and laughing at corpses is enough lore for me. Best class ever.
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Thargorichiban wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

EpyonNext wrote...

Krogen Soldiers have two purposes.
1. Punch things in the face
2. Carnage

As long as you do those, a lot, you should just be an indestructible juggernaut of death.


I don't care about their 'purposes', and I'm all right with their effectiveness right now. But why the MP should ignore the simple fact, that with all those extra internal organs and so on Krogans does regenerate their HEALTH?


Your specific quote in the first post is a bit misleading. Garrus is talking about a krogan who regenerates faster than any other krogan he has ever met. Called him a freak of nature. Logically most other krogan don't regenerate nearly as quickly.

Even Grunt doesn't necessarily regenerate that quickly unless you choose certain level-up options.


But it is possible. I'm not talking about being able to treat your health bar like you treat your shields, but if a Krogan with specific upgrades to his passive was able to regenerate health bar in a reasonable, not overpowered way I would be content.
And it would be true to the lore.

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grunt could regen a whopping 55 hp/sec i believe at max level. need this in the game!

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Who is 'Wres' and why do you worship him?

Also, you could just press right on the D-pad and RP that it's him regenerating.  Like, press right and watch your hp go up and then tell your team, "I just regenerated.  Like a Krogan!"

Modifié par Tang McGame, 21 février 2012 - 12:12 .


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Krogan soldier are fun . But the cover movement reacts sometimes too slow.

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Tang McGame wrote...

Who is 'Wres' and why do you worship him?

Also, you could just press right on the D-pad and RP that it's him regenerating.  Like, press right and watch your hp go up and then tell your team, "I just regenerated.  Like a Krogan!"


Wres is the godly aspect of Urdnot Wrex. We, the worshippers greet ourselves saying "Wres in peace" and then exchange headbutts.

I also tried to slowly color the health bar with a red marker, but its not working.
Also I keep telling my teammates that I AM KROGAN, but they are all like stfu :-(

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EpyonNext wrote...

Krogen Soldiers have two purposes.
1. Punch things in the face
2. Carnage

As long as you do those, a lot, you should just be an indestructible juggernaut of death.


Works great on bronze, not so great on anything else, even with full berserker and fortifiaction.

Krogan are one of those Zangieg style "strongman" classes that sound great on paper but lack long term - all mode balance.

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TwwlX wrote...

I'll take balanced gameplay over lore, anytime.


This.
The Krogan Soldier is a blunt instrument, use it accordingly. When I use mine, I'm un-freakin-stoppable.

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Max out your Fortification. Also dump a lot into Your Krogan Rage and Carnage. I also have plenty of Med-Gel with me when I charge. Usually I don't need it. I get close up and do damage. Use the Shotgun. Better than a rifle.

After that you should be fine. A one man er....Krogan Army