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[Feeshi]

Turian Sentinels are brutal with "overload chain"x2 and sniper rifles. Most underused and possibly worst for me is Drell Vanguards. Enjoyed playing mine until I got hit and almost died instantly even in bronze. Tried to charge once and DID die instantly.

[goofyomnivore]

drell vanguards, human adepts and sentinels are about the worst. Quarian Engineer is pretty bad too.

[Eclipse_9990]

Human Sentinel, and Drell Vanguard. Drell Vanguard is just so damn fragile. It makes me wonder why you would even charge with him. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 21 février 2012 - 02:58 .

[Jestina]

I've seen quite a few quarian engineers running around. They are good if you know how to play an engineer.

Not many sentinels, and few soldiers...other than Krogans.

[Tangster]

strive wrote...

drell vanguards, human adepts and sentinels are about the worst. Quarian Engineer is pretty bad too.

Not playing human sentinel or quarian engineer right then. Human sentinel is inferior to turian, but still a good versitle unit. The quarian engineer is a damage support player. That fully upgraded turret with AP ammo and flamer is lethal. It's not like the human engie which is there to help strip defenses, the quarin eng is there to provide final hits and crowd control. Not useful in quite a lot of games, but veastly when used right.

[Mr_Steph]

Drell Vanguard.

I'm surprised at how many people say Sentinel though. There's almost always one on my team, if not 2 when I'm rocking my human Sentinel that I BTW dominate pretty hard with. Might not have as good a TA as the Turian one, but it is still enough to make you tanky as hell along with your passive. Warp and throw are decent enough, though I'd rather have overload than throw.

[PrinceLionheart]

Drell Vanguard definitely. The low barrier is definitely a turnoff for most players.

[Thoragoros]

I'm might be opening a big pandora's box here, but I think we would see A LOT more Sentinels if the Male Human Sentinel was the starter rather than the Female.

Dudes who play Sentinel play to go Powerhouse-Tank, and frankly that's just not the feel you get with the female Sentinel.

[Hyunsai]

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

[titoarc]

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

worst class? Sentinel, without doubt. Not underplayed, though. I see them all the time, and they always suck! Whenever I have a Sentinel squadmate, I'm amazed if he gets half as many points as I get. I tried to play it myself, but the only thing the sentinel can do, is to absorb damage. In regard to anything else, the Sentinel is inferior to the other classes.
Close-combat: Vanguard, Soldier
CC: Adept, Vanguard
Sniping or mid to long-range: Soldier, Infiltrator

even a level 1 infiltrator equipped with nothing but a scoped pistel outplays a sentinel. Hands down!

the points are not important in a co-op , a bad vangard charging like a craizy will get more points that the character who has to deal with the problems caused by that bad player (as continusly healing him)

[titoarc]

i see as worse class the soldier , as a krogan sentinel will make the same work as a krogan soldier but much better (10% + damage resistence ) , incinerate and lift granade instead of carnage and inferno granade

The soldier should have a ammo power to make it usefull

Modifié par titoarc, 21 février 2012 - 03:37 .

[Jimbe2693]

I've seen pretty even numbers I think. Except only seen one other Drell vanguard.

I love Drell vanguard, I carry only a pistol so I can keep on charging to stay alive. I rush in, go crazy in melee, rinse and repeat. The run speed bonus is nice, and pull will take the shields away from guardians making them trivial, and drell have all those stylish moves.

the satirist wrote...
worst class? Sentinel, without doubt. Not underplayed, though. I see them all the time, and they always suck! Whenever I have a Sentinel squadmate, I'm amazed if he gets half as many points as I get. I tried to play it myself, but the only thing the sentinel can do, is to absorb damage. In regard to anything else, the Sentinel is inferior to the other classes.
Close-combat: Vanguard, Soldier
CC: Adept, Vanguard
Sniping or mid to long-range: Soldier, Infiltrator

even a level 1 infiltrator equipped with nothing but a scoped pistel outplays a sentinel. Hands down!

I wreak havoc with my sentinel. Grab a shotgun and melee damage bonuses, and you can destroy everything in close quarters while tanking lots of damage. When things get bad overload your tech armour and run away.

[Darkfoxz87]

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

worst class? Sentinel, without doubt. Not underplayed, though. I see them all the time, and they always suck! Whenever I have a Sentinel squadmate, I'm amazed if he gets half as many points as I get. I tried to play it myself, but the only thing the sentinel can do, is to absorb damage. In regard to anything else, the Sentinel is inferior to the other classes.
Close-combat: Vanguard, Soldier
CC: Adept, Vanguard
Sniping or mid to long-range: Soldier, Infiltrator

even a level 1 infiltrator equipped with nothing but a scoped pistel outplays a sentinel. Hands down!

*Facepalm* It is not desinged to get the most points, thats the Soilders/Vangaurds job. They are there to.

A.Tank

and

B.Compliment everyone else on the feild.

[A SILENT EMU]

Worst? Probably human soldier.

[Shadow of Terror]

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points. Silver and Gold.

Modifié par Shadow of Terror, 21 février 2012 - 03:59 .

[A SILENT EMU]

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points.

Agreed, I think a lot of people don't know how to properly use the human adpet.  I have both the human and asari and I often prefer to play as the human.  Although having both of them in one game is always good too as they can biotic combo off each other.

[Thoragoros]

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points. Silver and Gold.

While what you describe certainly is true, to an extent, that is a lot of micro, especially in tense situations.  Truth is, while you're timing warp bombs and trying to aim-glitch to catch guardians, and relying on yoru Asari buds combine biotics, pretty mcuh any other class when properly played can deal out just as much damage with much less effort.

For instance, with my Krogan Soldier, I can deal massive damage range against pretty much anything via carnage, and can get in close to hammer down whatever I didn't reduce to ash.

With my infiltrator, aim, pull trigger, then profit.

The difference is ease of use for pretty much equal results. 

[bandfred]

Soldiers are a lot rarer than I thought they would be, considering the statistics say a giant chunk play as them.

[TheKillerAngel]

Human sentinels aren't very good at silver and above because they lack quick defense stripping capabilities.

[Hyunsai]

Shadow of Terror wrote...
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You never teamed with a good Asari, then. I very well know how to deal with those centurions, nemesis, guardian with human adept. Problem is, with the Asari you don't even have to think. Stasis, headshot, done. The speed and utility you bring to your team can't even compare.

So yes, having played both classes at level 20, I still say that the asari adept destroys the human adept hands down in sheer utility and destructive power.

[Greystone]

Human soldier is most definitely not the worst.  Not by a long shot.

Maxed adrenaline rush with 1 power use evolution, maxed concussive shot and frag grenade turns you into a walking death machine.

With adrenaline rush you can concussive shot a guardian turn on ar and head shot them down and then concussive shot a second guardian and ar them down over the course of a couple seconds if your aim is decent.

Soldier probably has one of the highest potential burst damage outputs with concussive shot<activate ar<concussive shot<frag grenade<frag grenade.

Frag grenades are stupid good if you can control their landing.  Roll them behind guardians for easy 1 hit kills.

Hell you can ar and throw 3x +50% damage boosted frag grenades at an atlas. 

You can bank frags off corners-this is money.

Can't tell you how many team mates I have saved from getting a boot to the face with concussive shot.

For sheer sustained dps you cannot beat an ar'd soldier with max rank assault rifle and mods.

Krogan soldier has it's own perks.  Carnage is basically a fancier looking concussive shot that does more damage as far as I can tell.  You can also make it a guaranteed knockdown which is a powerful cc.  Even without this evolution by max rank it will stagger guardians.

Krogan soldier melee is RETARDED.  I'm not even spec'd for it and have dropped 3-4 enemies back to back saving 2 fallen team mates, more than a few times. 

Just had to throw this in there. 

[royard]

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points. Silver and Gold.

I don't understand the logic of your post.  You may be an excellent adept player, but that doesn't change the fact that human adept is inferior. 

You said warp bomb is a good way to deal damage.  But asari has their warp-throw bomb too. 
You said singularity can be good against guardians.  But stasis bubble is so very good against guardians and phantoms and just about anything. 
Human adepts have nothing asari adepts don't have, and asari adepts have stasis. 

[JumboWheat01]

I'm surprised with the lack of other human sentinels, which shocks me. I'm a throwing machine, and outside of engineers, it's the only class that I can easily take down those annoying guardians with. Throw their shield, fill them full of lead as they recoil. Never fails me.

That said, I almost NEVER see any Infiltrators. Kinda the point, I know, but seriously, where are you all?