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[Rodia Driftwood]

I use the Human Sentinel and I love it. It's a very balanced class and it's very useful for support when Guardians appear. Just stagger them out of their cover and pop 'em with the Mantis.

[WizenSlinky0]

Sora Kitano wrote...


Krogans have to be played far too aggressively to seem plausible to be proper Sentinel's and their choice in powers also helps to severely hamper their usefulness in turn.

The Krogan Sentinel is going to make an awesome melee class with the extra defense from tech armor.

[Hedera]

Personally I love sentinel. Upgraded throw is loads of fun on unshielded enemies. My playstyle (smallest cooldowns possible, run and gun) really makes tech armor moot, though, as I tend to run through large groups instead of staying near them. Can't say anything about it on Silver or Gold, though. My friends tend not to be adventurous. I have a feeling the whole run and gun thing is going to be my end.

[Lightweight Nate]

darkblade wrote...

Adepts that arent asari.

I play Human Male Adept and own everything. Singularity Warp 1-2 punch wrecks anything, Warp +  Phalanx/Carnifex destroys mechs, Shockwave gives you a clear shot at Guardians...It's a lot different than Soldier, but can be just as, if not more effective.

[SgtPepper667]

Oh hey! I'm a Quarian Engineer! :3

I haven't seen many Sentinels that aren't Human...Not saying it's the worst class, just that I haven't seen many of them.

[rumination888]

lightsnow13 wrote...

Human adepts don't have stasis, but they have fantastic cc abilities. Asari adepts have a tougher time with guardians in comparison to human adepts.

How do Asari have a tougher time?
Stasis ---> guardian drops his shield ---> kill

[Dot.Shadow]

Adepts and Sentinels seem sorta useless. The Turian Sentinel has good abilities, apart from the rather poor tech armour which is the signature of the entire class.

Asari Adepts are supposed to be awesome if they go light on firearms and quite heavily on throw or pull or whatever it is they have. The rest of the races seem rather useless, and I'm yet to see one do well. Sure they offer good support capabilities, the stasis is priceless against Phantoms, but the class really lacks offensive punch or survivability beyond that.

Modifié par Dot.Shadow, 21 février 2012 - 09:46 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

I love the human Infiltrator...play as her all the time, and she's my highest level character...but we got screwed on abilities.

First of all, why Cryo Blast? The Infiltrator in the SP doesn't ever have that as a power, they have Incinerate, which was given to the Engineer. The Engineer in SP can use both Incinerate and Cryo Blast, so I don't get why they didn't give Cryo Blast to the Engineer and Incinerate to the Infiltrator. Engineers have Combat Drone and Overload, which are both pretty nice offensive powers, so why do they get Incinerate, too? The Infiltrator has almost no way to strip shields/barriers/armor except to spam them with a trigger. I love cloak, wouldn't give it up for the world, but Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenade? Really? I can't ever get sticky grenade to work reliably (never used them much myself in ME1), and you get a LIMITED number of them. The heck? And Cryo doesn't work against anything that's already protected by Shields/Barrier/Armor. At least Engineers have Overload, which can strip shields...but they get Incinerate, which strips Armor, too? The only "good" power the human Infiltrator got was Tactical Cloak...Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenade are so limited in comparison to the other powers. It would have been much better if we could have gotten Sabotage and Incinerate...I actually would have been fine with Sticky Grenade if they'd have given us something other than Cryo to compliment it. *Shrug* I dunno, maybe it's just me...and don't get me wrong, Cryo has its uses, but it's not at all useful against anything that has a barrier of some kind on it. My engy friend can spam Incinerate and own, my soldier friend can spam Concussive Shot and own, but I can't spam Cryo and have it do anything more effective than hucking an ice cube at the enemy.

At least I've got my cloak and sniper rifle.

[SWkazashi]

Is it just me but The turian sentinel is my main character and it completely owns everyone's ass it was my first class and has remained my favorite.

Tech Armor + Overlord + Warp + Avenger X = Sheer awesomeness

I have a level 18 turian sentinel and all i quip is Avenger X and with the fast coooldown and spamming of overlord makes it the best class for me.

Human adept is my 2nd favorite i could own ass with it too.... haven't unlocked asari adept but i dont see it much....

I actually have only played adept and sentinel so maybe im a bit biased.....

[Arppis]

Propably... err... I dunno.

But most underappriciated is definedly human Soldier.

Modifié par Arppis, 21 février 2012 - 10:03 .

[Scrode]

Drell vanguard is pretty bad. Charge with half the barrier of a normal vanguard :/

[MissFish]

AlphaDormante wrote...

I see lots of Vanguards and Infiltrators; played with a few Engineers just now even though I don't normally see them a lot, and one of them was a quarian. I honestly see fewest Adepts and Sentinels; makes me a little sad, because I love helping out with dem biotic explosions.

I know how you feel! I was playing as my Asari Adept on a team with 2 human Adepts and I think I was scoring them most of their combo kills.
I love dem explosions....

Any way, I don't see any classes as useless, but you gotta play it right.
I don't particularly like the solider class, but I play with a guy who rocks concussive shot like it's his job.
I can't snipe to save my life, but my friend can.
I have yet to play engineer, but I know somebody who can.
I rock an Adept, and 1.3 second cooldowns STILL arn't enough for me

Long story short: No classes are useless, you've just gotta play a class that matches your style.

Modifié par MissFish, 21 février 2012 - 10:27 .

[HolyAvenger]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I love the human Infiltrator...play as her all the time, and she's my highest level character...but we got screwed on abilities.

First of all, why Cryo Blast? The Infiltrator in the SP doesn't ever have that as a power, they have Incinerate, which was given to the Engineer. The Engineer in SP can use both Incinerate and Cryo Blast, so I don't get why they didn't give Cryo Blast to the Engineer and Incinerate to the Infiltrator. Engineers have Combat Drone and Overload, which are both pretty nice offensive powers, so why do they get Incinerate, too? The Infiltrator has almost no way to strip shields/barriers/armor except to spam them with a trigger. I love cloak, wouldn't give it up for the world, but Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenade? Really? I can't ever get sticky grenade to work reliably (never used them much myself in ME1), and you get a LIMITED number of them. The heck? And Cryo doesn't work against anything that's already protected by Shields/Barrier/Armor. At least Engineers have Overload, which can strip shields...but they get Incinerate, which strips Armor, too? The only "good" power the human Infiltrator got was Tactical Cloak...Cryo Blast and Sticky Grenade are so limited in comparison to the other powers. It would have been much better if we could have gotten Sabotage and Incinerate...I actually would have been fine with Sticky Grenade if they'd have given us something other than Cryo to compliment it. *Shrug* I dunno, maybe it's just me...and don't get me wrong, Cryo has its uses, but it's not at all useful against anything that has a barrier of some kind on it. My engy friend can spam Incinerate and own, my soldier friend can spam Concussive Shot and own, but I can't spam Cryo and have it do anything more effective than hucking an ice cube at the enemy.

At least I've got my cloak and sniper rifle.

I agree that cryo isn't a great power, but it makes sense for infiltrators as it sets up enemies for headshot. I think in MP Engineers get to strip all protections, that's their advantage so they have to have incinerate to strip armour. Infiltrators get unparalleled battlefield mobility and power set that complements that. 

PS you playing on PC? PM me your Origin ID, I'll set up stasis headshots for you all day long. 

[Wheatax]

I don't find any of the classes bad. They all have their own strength and weaknesses but compliments each other. I do find there are less sentinels though.
Power combinations are the best. Combine 2 and watch the fireworks fly ^^

[Trapper_920]

Soldier

[Radwar]

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points. Silver and Gold.

I agree, anyone who says the human adept is a weak class doesn't know how to play it. I usually finish on top with this class.

Modifié par Radwar, 21 février 2012 - 01:36 .

[Mand0l1n]

Another fan of human adept here. Bending powers is probably one of the most useful abilities in the game. Nobody behind cover or even in another room is safe as long as I can see their health bar. I haven't unlocked asari yet but am more than happy with this class at the moment. Least favourite for me is sentinel but probably because I've been playing it like a 2nd class adept.

[ccelizic]

Hmmmm, I started playing a turian sentinel because it was the first non-human unlock i recieved. It left me curious about the human form but I haven't touched it. My initial thoughts on the tech armor were meh. But after some resistance upgrades, and some upgrades to health and armor and some melee damage upgrades both from tech armor and fitness and that Turian turned into a juggernaut who always has that tech armor up.

I believe the turnaround point was when I was doing a capture and hold objective, the rest of the team dropped dead out in left field, failing to follow to objective. Leaving me to beat off the entire wave of enemies while holding a point. At some point the two phantoms which had iced my team managed to get the drop on me one immediately after the other. I took them both out, in melee.

makes me wonder how tough the human counterpart can get.

Modifié par ccelizic, 21 février 2012 - 02:02 .

[Had-to-say]

Soldiers are very rare.

[Hyunsai]

I'm trying soldier right now to see the potential of concussive shot and grenades, I'm only 12, but I'm quite pleased by the results so far.

rumination888 wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...

Human adepts don't have stasis, but they have fantastic cc abilities. Asari adepts have a tougher time with guardians in comparison to human adepts.

How do Asari have a tougher time?
Stasis ---> guardian drops his shield ---> kill

royard wrote...
I don't understand the logic of your post.  You may be an excellent adept player, but that doesn't change the fact that human adept is inferior. 

You said warp bomb is a good way to deal damage.  But asari has their warp-throw bomb too. 
You said singularity can be good against guardians.  But stasis bubble is so very good against guardians and phantoms and just about anything. 

HUMAN ADEPTS HAVE NOTHING ASARI ADEPTS DON'T HAVE, AND ASARI ADEPTS HAVE STASIS. 

The truth.

Modifié par Hyunsai, 21 février 2012 - 02:23 .

[Team Value]

I've only seen one drell vanguard (me). They are really fun, but fragile as hell. Even stray grenades that other classes would shrug off are instant death.

[PinkPingPenguin]

Human sentis are really crap.

[Shadow of Terror]

royard wrote...

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

the satirist wrote...

What's the problem with the human Adept? Might not be as good as the asari, but a warp bombing adept can still wreak havoc!

That's the problem. What's the point of human Adept when singularity can't deal with guardians, centurions, phantoms, nemesis ? The thing cannot even lock them in one place. Sometimes they fly so high the detonation is useless.

Unless Singularity got a MAJOR buff and can lift enemies with barrier and shield like Stasis can freeze them, it will remain one of the worst power of multiplayer.

Wait what? This is how I know people are not using classes correctly.

Guardians can be caught by Singularity if you aim it as high above them as possible (where it still targets), it goes above their head, picks them up and they are just any other basic enemy you can warp bomb.

The centurions are easy to deal with because they're always with a buddy, so the warp bomb strips their shield, and if it's on it's own, a few pistol shots remove it. Nemesis are easy to deal with anyway, easy to shoot at, easy to warp bomb. Phantoms are its only weakness, and even then, warp + shockwave makes a biotic explosion.

Every time I play as a Human Adept I finish clear top in points, above Vanguards, above Asari Adepts, above everything. The damage they dish out is insane, with one in your team, anything that has just health can be regarded as dead, and anything with a shield will be dead as soon as that's removed (which is easy with everything but phantoms).

Either people have never used one, got distracted by the Asari, or they are using one damn wrong.

Edit: When I say clear top, I mean unless there is a vanguard in the game, it's 2 or 3 times as many points. Silver and Gold.

I don't understand the logic of your post.  You may be an excellent adept player, but that doesn't change the fact that human adept is inferior. 

You said warp bomb is a good way to deal damage.  But asari has their warp-throw bomb too. 
You said singularity can be good against guardians.  But stasis bubble is so very good against guardians and phantoms and just about anything. 
Human adepts have nothing asari adepts don't have, and asari adepts have stasis. 

Here's the logic.

Even if the Asari Adept was stronger in every single way (which it's not), then it still doesn't mean the Human adept is the weakest class. The Asari Adept everyone is saying is the most powerful character, so finishing behind it doesn't make you suck. Human adepts still have far far far easier times than say a soilder.

Yes, Asari have stasis, the most overpowered ability in the game, they are easier to use than a Human Adept, but they still don't have the same killing speed.

I'm watching videos of Asari adepts on gold, and while Stasis is amazingly useful, they still all kill far slower. Warp plus throw doesn't have the same explosive ability as Singularity and Warp, none of it's abilitys pick up enemies behind cover anywhere near as easy as Singularity, they warp an enemy, the enemys move apart from each other, then use throw and it's a far less effective as it naturally deals less damage, and the enemies are more spread apart. Stasis plus Warp/throw is better, but still less damage due to no exploding Singularity and can't be used behind cover.

The Asari Adpet is more useful on gold, I'm not say it's not. The ease it can deal with phantoms etc is invaluable, but it doesn't surpass the human in every way, and the human is certainly damn useful.

[thisisme8]

Funny, I beat Gold yesterday with a Drell Vanguard and a Sentinel.