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[Soundsystem]

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

...

You're joking right?

[Les_Carver]

I guess the thing with Meer and Hale is that many whiners-for-no-logical-reason around here, complain about BioWare not picking a "big name" like Hale to play Shepard. And therefor they just look for reasons to hate on Mark's work. Whatever.

[seirhart]

Cody211282 wrote...

I like him for paragon, but I think Hale is a lot better for renegade.

This is exactly how I feel about all of this, I see Mark Meer far better as a paragon and Hale as a Renegade

[AlphaDormante]

Soundsystem wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

...

You're joking right?

A troll or sadly uninformed. Pat him on the head, wipe the drool from his chin and move on, my friend.

I can't stand Meer's voice for Shepard, but it's not his fault. His voice acting for other characters has always been spectacular - clearly it's a matter of the voice direction. I think they wanted him to have a level, steady voice to set him up as a soldier who compartmentalizes his emotions and carries through the job. What I hear instead is a guy limply reading a few lines while trying to sound vaguely interested. I know the tone they were going for...but I don't think they hit it properly.

Just my opinion, though.

[graciegrace]

I'm not a fan of Mark Meer's Shepard in ME1, or overly in ME2 although it is better. He sounded REALLY good in the ME3 demo though, he finally was emoting correctly and was believable.

I don't blame Meer for it though, because he's shown he's a very talented voice actor overall, I blame the directors. They obviously had him perform a certain way for a reason, and I didn't care for it in the present two games. He's dull, detached, bored sounding. He doesn't sound invested in the action. And as a player, that makes me less invested in the action.

[What a Succulent Ass]

It was more like that in ME1. in ME2, he improved significantly, but didn't really shine until the DLC. From what I hear in ME3, he's finally nailed it. In fact, I vastly preferred his delivery in the demo over Hale's.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 21 février 2012 - 05:51 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

matt-bassist wrote...


I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

Wow. What even.

Crack open a history book, please.

[Eterna]

I prefer Hale far more than Meer. He just sounds so un passionate about everything.

[matt-bassist]

AlphaDormante wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

...

You're joking right?

A troll or sadly uninformed. Pat him on the head, wipe the drool from his chin and move on, my friend.

I can't stand Meer's voice for Shepard, but it's not his fault. His voice acting for other characters has always been spectacular - clearly it's a matter of the voice direction. I think they wanted him to have a level, steady voice to set him up as a soldier who compartmentalizes his emotions and carries through the job. What I hear instead is a guy limply reading a few lines while trying to sound vaguely interested. I know the tone they were going for...but I don't think they hit it properly.

Just my opinion, though.

Wow.... that's not a very nice thing to say! 

[Eterna]

matt-bassist wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

...

You're joking right?

A troll or sadly uninformed. Pat him on the head, wipe the drool from his chin and move on, my friend.

I can't stand Meer's voice for Shepard, but it's not his fault. His voice acting for other characters has always been spectacular - clearly it's a matter of the voice direction. I think they wanted him to have a level, steady voice to set him up as a soldier who compartmentalizes his emotions and carries through the job. What I hear instead is a guy limply reading a few lines while trying to sound vaguely interested. I know the tone they were going for...but I don't think they hit it properly.

Just my opinion, though.

Wow.... that's not a very nice thing to say! 

 He was far nicer and less of a bigot than you were. 

[Homey C-Dawg]

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

You forgot the part where she's suppose to be in the kitchen anyway. 

Anyway, I kind of like Meer's renegade better than Hales tbh. Seems more, I dunno, slapstick and funny. I like both of them about the same as paragon.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 21 février 2012 - 06:00 .

[s17tabris]

I started with femshep because many people said that Hale's performance was better. When I played manshep, I thought that Meer's performance was ok. I never understood why people were hating on his performance.

[DJBare]

matt-bassist wrote...
I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

I cannot help laughing, that sounds more like a description of most males I know, especially the bottling up part, I'm laughing so hard it's impossible to even berate you.

[AlphaDormante]

matt-bassist wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

...

You're joking right?

A troll or sadly uninformed. Pat him on the head, wipe the drool from his chin and move on, my friend.

I can't stand Meer's voice for Shepard, but it's not his fault. His voice acting for other characters has always been spectacular - clearly it's a matter of the voice direction. I think they wanted him to have a level, steady voice to set him up as a soldier who compartmentalizes his emotions and carries through the job. What I hear instead is a guy limply reading a few lines while trying to sound vaguely interested. I know the tone they were going for...but I don't think they hit it properly.

Just my opinion, though.

Wow.... that's not a very nice thing to say! 

You're right, I'm just cranky tonight. Apologies to anyone who may have been offended by that. (Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I generally do try to be more polite than that.)

Edit: Actually, I should reiterate: I apologize for the terminology I used, not for hurting your feelings. Unless you don't have feelings. Because you're a manly man man.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 21 février 2012 - 06:05 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

You wanna say that again to a military girl? I'm listening.

I compartmentalize very well, thankyouverymuch. If you don't, people die. It's that simple. You deal with crap when you can, not when you want to, it's part of the damned job. Women are just as capable of learning how to do it as men. In fact, I compartmentalize way better than some of my male counterparts. Do we women process things differently? Hell yeah. But does that mean we're totally incapable of compartmentalizing our emotions? Hell no.

Make no mistake, I'm still female...I squee over weddings and babies and other normal things women squee over, but I also know what is called for when. I know the when and where to be emotional. I'm also not the only female that does.

[JedTed]

He's not the best voice actor in video games but there's nobody else i'd rather had as ManShep.

[viggorrah]

matt-bassist wrote...

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

Question: what century do you live in? It's not the 1800s anymore. There have been plenty of excellent female leaders throughout history. Look it up.

[What a Succulent Ass]

viggorrah wrote...
Question: what century do you live in? It's not the 1800s anymore. There have been plenty of excellent female leaders throughout history. Look it up.

And that's even to imply there weren't great female leaders before the 1800's. Even that only considers Western society; it says nothing of cultures that are or were matriarchal.

[ThePuppetWithNoStrings]

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

I don't agree with the rest of your post about women not being good leaders because of their gender...

but THIS!  

Sheploo + Mark Meer's voice = *THE* Commander Shepard for me. 

Modifié par ThePuppetWithNoStrings, 21 février 2012 - 06:13 .

[MissFish]

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

I honest to god hope your kidding, and if you are, I really hope you realize WHY I am insulted by this. Woman can be leaders, believe it or not. And I HIGHLY doubt men get over EVERYTHING with just a beer. Women are highly capable of making decisions and dealing with problems. We don't just "Bottle it up" and cry about it with our girlfriends. Hell, if you've never seen a strong woman before, look at your own mother. Did she just ignore everything and cry about it everynight? Raising a kid is a leadership role, so according to your logic, women make horrible mothers.

I hope you grow up. I am legitimatly sorry for any girl you come in contact with.

PS: I don't care if you were "just kidding". You still said one of the most insulting things you could have.

[viggorrah]

Random Jerkface wrote...

viggorrah wrote...
Question: what century do you live in? It's not the 1800s anymore. There have been plenty of excellent female leaders throughout history. Look it up.

And that's even to imply there weren't great female leaders before the 1800's. Even that only considers Western society; it says nothing of cultures that are or were matriarchal.

Yes, you're right; that is a very good point.

Modifié par viggorrah, 21 février 2012 - 06:16 .

[matt-bassist]

Ok ok guys woah my post was pure sarcasm, just meant for a laugh, nothing more. I work on a ship, my superior officer is a female and she kicks ass. I respect women, they can do everything us guys can etc etc.

No disrespect, esp. towards those ladies in the military, kickin' ass for our freedom.

But, I mean, at the very least can we all agree that when its *that* time of the month, girls are completely irrational? 

Modifié par matt-bassist, 21 février 2012 - 06:25 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

matt-bassist wrote...


But, I mean, at the very least can we all agree that when its *that* time of the month, girls are completely irrational? 

Depends on the woman. Some PMS, a lot don't.

[matt-bassist]

MissFish wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 Man I LOVE Meer, to me he *is* Commander Shepard. 

*FLAME ON!*

I like Jennifer Hale too, but girls can't really be leaders because they always let their emotions get in the way, so it's not really believable. You know, if stuff goes down, problems/conflicts, guys we get over it and have a beer at the end of the day and move on, but girls, they bottle it up, and never really deal with it until it's too late.

And that is where things can go wrong; people get hurt when you let feelings, pride, predijuce get in the way of rational thinking.

Right? 

But I LOVED Jennifer Hale in KOTOR! Man, Bastila Shan was an awesome sidekick. 

I honest to god hope your kidding, and if you are, I really hope you realize WHY I am insulted by this. Woman can be leaders, believe it or not. And I HIGHLY doubt men get over EVERYTHING with just a beer. Women are highly capable of making decisions and dealing with problems. We don't just "Bottle it up" and cry about it with our girlfriends. Hell, if you've never seen a strong woman before, look at your own mother. Did she just ignore everything and cry about it everynight? Raising a kid is a leadership role, so according to your logic, women make horrible mothers.

I hope you grow up. I am legitimatly sorry for any girl you come in contact with.

PS: I don't care if you were "just kidding". You still said one of the most insulting things you could have.

 

But if I was just kidding, then I didn't mean what I said, and thus you can't feel insulted. Unless of course, what I said in jest struck a chord? Maybe you feel that there is some truth to my words...? hmm?