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[What a Succulent Ass]

Honestly, Prothy having a voice like Vigil's makes no damn sense for a variety of reasons.

[scotkrow]

woods26 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

I would like to point out to someone who said it should be a less recognizable accent, and they in this very thread, many people have been arguing back and forth about what his accent is, it's kind of a mashing together of a few different accents, it just happens that all those accents are associated with people from black cultures, in Africa and Caribbean.

That's interesting. I understand that some might not like the sound of the voice but to argue that it's "wrong" just seems silly to me. 

Yeah I don't get the whole "it sounds wrong thing" I've been trying to have people explain exactly why, some of them say he sounds too human, and I point at all the other aliens, they say the other aliens look more human, I ask how Krogan (bat/bugs) and turians (dinosaurs) and the other races are any more human than the prothean and don't soudns "too human" when they sound exactly like humans.  And they change the subject.  I find this whole discussion to be funny.

[izmirtheastarach]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Honestly, Prothy having a voice like Vigil's makes no damn sense for a variety of reasons.

You mean because Vigil is a computer generated voice created specifically to adress Shepard in his own language, and likely sounds nothing like an actual Prothean?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 22 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[scotkrow]

agree with izmirtheastarach

[What a Succulent Ass]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

You mean because Vigil is a computer generated voice created specifically to adress Shepard in his own language, and likely sounds nothing like an actual Prothean?

That, and Prothy is from a completely different sect of Protheans and the (spoilery) nature of the Protheans themselves.

[Mhorhe83]

I apologize but I have not had the patience to read through more than 2 pages, since this repeats what I've seen in the humongously large Prothy thread. So:

Arcian wrote...

Saints_ wrote...



I for one think this is an insult. I'll adapt, not like I'm cancelling preorder..lol..



but still.

>They give their character an african accent

>You take it as a personal insult against you

Stay classy.

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Saints_ wrote...

It has nothing at all to do with the origin behind the accent. Why would you jump to such an extreme?

The
voice in no way suits the Protheans look. That's not being racist, it's
being honest. If that offends you in some way stop taking yourself so
seriously.

Also never said it was a personal insult, but again
you seem to like to jump to conclusions with no real solid ground to
support them.

It's an insult to anyone who plays Mass Effect an
enjoys it. The voice to me, at least, feels thrown in there. No real
effort was taken, again, to me, to match his face and voice.

Lack of caring = insult to people who care about the game. Again, so you don't take it to the extreme, all in my opinion.

I have to say you are jumping to conclusions yourself  The voice chosen for the Prothean character does in no way reflect lack of caring on their part. You dislike the voice - which is fine - but because you do, you jump to a strong conclusion - which is not fine. It doesn't match his face and voice?.. uh, isn't that, in YOUR opinion?

The Protheans lived literally all over the galaxy, and there were so many of them it took the Reapers centuries to kill them all. Think of the variety we have here on Earth - by extension, the Protheans might have been infintely more diverse.

I personally neither like nor dislike the voice, just as I neither dislike nor like the idea of somehow coming up with a Prothean of all things. And I definitely don't like he doesn't look like the statues on Ilos and the images from the vision.

But you know what? It's fine. It's just my opinion of things. It's not the absolute truth, nor does it mean Bioware should be impaled on a Dragon Tooth for their lack of caring towards their fans.

Modifié par Mhorhe83, 22 février 2012 - 06:32 .

[GamerrangerX]

Saints_ wrote...

I've found two videos that surfaced on Youtube recently that were leaked from the ME3 demo. These clips are apparently the Prothean sqaud mates voice. I think the voice doesn't suit him at all. They could have went for a more unique, maybe ancient sounding voice. Just my opinion though.

Please don't complain about spoilers. You're in the spoiler section..

Anyway here they are,

the voice is GOOD,NOW SHUT THE **** UP

[Alacrast]

Im sorry but its unacceptable for Bioware to make the prothean seprate dlc at launch unless you got the collectors edition. Protheans are big part of the lore of mass effect. $10 for the character at launch, unbelivable. This is not appropriate, this is not acceptable and this shouldn't tolorated by the fans. Until you resend this Bioware/EA I and others are boycotting.

[izmirtheastarach]

Alacrast wrote...

Im sorry but its unacceptable for Bioware to make the prothean seprate dlc at launch unless you got the collectors edition. Protheans are big part of the lore of mass effect. $10 for the character at launch, unbelivable. This is not appropriate, this is not acceptable and this shouldn't tolorated by the fans. Until you resend this Bioware/EA I and others are boycotting.

Good luck with that.

[scotkrow]

In another thread I read that the DLC is just to have him as a squad mate, you still meet the prothean and can talk to him without it, something about the script or a code somewhere in the game or something like that.

[Treopod]

MrDizaztar wrote...

I would like to point something out to you all. It is said the the cradle of humankind is said to be in Africa. I would also like to point out the lore says that the Protheans had a hand in the evolution of mankind, as in such would make since that the Prothean would sound African.

once againt this argument doesnt work, the first humans did not look like modern africans and they did not sound like them either, none of the languages in existance today are even close to that old, some of them are at most ca 9000 years old, and most languages are much younger. 

Modifié par Treopod, 22 février 2012 - 07:02 .

[gabewpashere]

 Guess whose getting killed off in my playthrough??? 

[Mhorhe83]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Alacrast wrote...

Im
sorry but its unacceptable for Bioware to make the prothean seprate dlc
at launch unless you got the collectors edition. Protheans are big part
of the lore of mass effect. $10 for the character at launch,
unbelivable. This is not appropriate, this is not acceptable and this
shouldn't tolorated by the fans. Until you resend this Bioware/EA I and
others are boycotting.

Good luck with that.

He's right though.. Day one DLCs kind of struck me as shameless in general, but this is just ripping people off. I've got the CE pre-ordered, but  it still bothers me on principle.

Also, the argument that the cradle of humanity is Africa and thus Protheans should sound African is.... uhm...

[izmirtheastarach]

Mhorhe83 wrote...

He's right though.. Day one DLCs kind of struck me as shameless in general, but this is just ripping people off. I've got the CE pre-ordered, but  it still bothers me on principle.

Also, the argument that the cradle of humanity is Africa and thus Protheans should sound African is.... uhm...

I've never understood the misuse of the term "ripping people off". If people think the product is not worth the money, then they don't buy it. No one is ripped off. Unless Bioware hid this DLC until release day and made everyone think it was in the game, I don't see how anyone would be deceived, which is sort of required for a rip-off. But I've known this was DLC that came with the CE for the last couple months. I pre-ordered the CE as well because I wanted the content.

And yes, the Africa argument is silly. They just picked a voice they thought fit the character and sounded cool. It has nothing to do with Africa.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 22 février 2012 - 07:40 .

[Hillbillyhat]

abadomen wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Johnny Nocturnal wrote...

Unless you find this Prothean hiding out in Africa somewhere, the accent completely ruins it for me.  It's such a distinguishing and EARTHLY accent, that it's an immersion breaker. 

Was really hoping he'd sound like vigil.  I'm pretty disappointed, but I'll get over it.

Also, how does this Prothean's appearance relate to the statues on Ilos? He looks completely different. I was hoping the Protheans might have a slightly more exotic physiology than your typical humanoid. The accent only makes it worse.

Supposedly those statues on Illos were the race BEFORE the protheans.

Well not exactly. Lets just say the Protheans are not really nice people and leave it at that.

[f1ndmenow]

Bioware hopefully compensated his voice with intriguing back-story since HE is a PROTHEAN. If not people, we will have another Jar-Jar Binks to deal with in a game trilogy. When finally battle against the reapers come I know who I ain't saving if my worst fear comes true.

Modifié par f1ndmenow, 22 février 2012 - 08:27 .

[izmirtheastarach]

f1ndmenow wrote...

Bioware hopefully compensated his voice with intriguing back-story since HE is a PROTHEAN. If not people, we will have another Jar-Jar Binks to deal with in a game trilogy. When finally battle against the reapers come I know who I ain't saving if my worst fear comes true.

He seems to be a powerful badass, so I don't think there is much chance of him being a Jar Jar.

[lastpawn]

Eh. From some of the comments I was concerned that BW went the way of JRPGs. But this accent is fine, it's just a stereotypical African-English voice.

[ckriley]

He sounds kind of like the Rakata from KOTOR to me.

[Mhorhe83]

izmirtheastarach wrote...
I've never understood the misuse of the term "ripping people off". If people think the product is not worth the money, then they don't buy it. No one is ripped off. Unless Bioware hid this DLC until release day and made everyone think it was in the game, I don't see how anyone would be deceived, which is sort of required for a rip-off. But I've known this was DLC that came with the CE for the last couple months. I pre-ordered the CE as well because I wanted the content.

What misuse are you referring to? If you refer to the term itself, then I don't think I was misusing it.. First result on google search is : "A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality."

If you're referring to the principle of it, I absolutely hate the concept of day-one DLC. I find it to be quite shameless greed. It's like "so we made the game, you paid x moneys for it, but we've reserved this little portion of it. You can't have it, unless you pay y moneys more".

People that want EVERYTHING that can possibly come on day one will buy the CE. I had no qualms in buying the Digital Deluxe version, even though it's amusing that it costs as much as the actual physical version that comes with bits of plastic, metal and paper that cost extra money, instead of bytes that cost nothing extra.

I find it a poor way to treat your fans - to dangle an extra tiny bit of the world they wanted bad enough to spend x moneys on. At least in DA:O the day one DLC wasn't something quite as integral to the story as the Prothean.

Modifié par Mhorhe83, 22 février 2012 - 08:42 .

[Vovea]

Its not what I was expecting in the slightest, but then again I have no idea what giant bug aliens sound like.

[izmirtheastarach]

Mhorhe83 wrote...

What misuse are you referring to? If you refer to the term itself, then I don't think I was misusing it.. First result on google search is : "A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality."

A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad Financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpay] for something.

In order to be "ripped off" You would have to buy the product, and then learn that you had overpayed. Since all this info is now well known, it's up to each individual customer to decide whether they wanted to purchase the content. If you purchase it and play it and then feel it wasn't worth what you paid, then you will be entitled to feel ripped off.

Until then it's just something you don't like. What people want is really not at issue. What the are entitled to is. They are entitled to a game if they pay for it, and no matter what edition of it they pre-order or purchase, they will get one. Other then that, they are entitled to nothing. Certainly not content that is being sold seperately.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 22 février 2012 - 08:55 .

[scotkrow]

agreed

[ApplesauceBandit]

Jamaican me crazy!

[Mhorhe83]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

In order to be "ripped off" You
would have to buy the product, and then learn that you had overpayed.
Since all this info is now well known, it's up to each individual
customer to decide whether they wanted to purchase the content. If you
purchase it and play it and then feel it wasn't worth what you paid,
then you will be entitled to feel ripped off.

Until then it's
just something you don't like. What people want is really not at issue.
What the are entitled to is. They are entitled to a game if they pay for
it, and no matter what edition of it they pre-order or purchase, they
will get one. Other then that, they are entitled to nothing. Certainly
not content that is being sold seperately.

Some of the explanations I found give it a broader meaning, and I'd say it's more flexible than just that one meaning. Regardless, I am not a native English speaker so I'll stop arguing that 

By the logic you describe, you could buy, say, ME 2, where you only get Omega station. The rest of it could be sold separately, and you wouldn't be entitled to it. It's a similar if less extreme case here.

I'd have no problem if the DLC came in a month from now, costing 10 dollars - then there's at least the possibility they actually worked during that month to come up with that content. Releasing it at this price on day one - when it's clear you're simply withholding a small portion of the game just so you can milk the people that want it for a bit more - is to me a poor way of treating your fans. I never bought Warden's Keep for the very same reason.

I'm not arguing against their right to do so - but I do find it to be unpleasant.