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[izmirtheastarach]

mauro2222 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

To everyone else:  I'm sorry if my religion offends you.  But it is my religion and I'm just as entitled to my beliefs as you are yours.  I have every much a right to be offended and voice my opinion.  Just as you are getting GLBT characters that represent you...I want to be represented in the same way.  And doing this to Ashley will offend me.

Your religion doesn't offend me, the use of your spiritual beliefs for a selfish purpouse is the problem.

I'm sort of offended by the idea that anyone who supports gay rights is not allowed to be a Christian.

[StonedBatman]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Major League wrote...

i'm curious what the excuse is going to be about everyone being bi on your shep now. they saw Tali's face and went bi? lol

What?

And for the record, Tali is straight herself, so not everybody's bi anyway. Now stop whining.

It would be a whole different story if Garrus and Tali suddenly turned bisexual. This place would flame.

Bioware wouldn't have the sack to do that, and they didn't. Sense it is Ashley and Kaidan nobody really gives a crap. They might as well be the same character anyway. They do nothing for the story, except complain. 

Ashley and Kaidan are only there to bend over at the right times and accept the invasion.

[DeathScepter]

Keep in Mind that a lot of the bible was written for the people of that era.

[NICKjnp]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

This goes into an area that is specifically against site rules.  I've already talked aobut it more than I should have.  There is more to say about the issue but this is not the site to do so since bioware says not to talk about it.

To everyone else:  I'm sorry if my religion offends you.  But it is my religion and I'm just as entitled to my beliefs as you are yours.  I have every much a right to be offended and voice my opinion.  Just as you are getting GLBT characters that represent you...I want to be represented in the same way.  And doing this to Ashley will offend me.

Even though you've yet to explain how exactly you know that Ashley is Christian, when that is never explicitly said in the game?

Again...site rules.  I've already gone to far by saying what I have earlier.

[android654]

She's only said she believed in god and heaven. That is open to so many things. She could be Buddhist, Jewish, or even some crazy hippy. She never clarified it.

[mauro2222]

GodWood wrote...

"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them." (1 Timothy 6:1 - 2)

Yup, total proof of Constantino's political move. 

Is not sarcasm

[izmirtheastarach]

NICKjnp wrote...

Again...site rules.  I've already gone to far by saying what I have earlier.

Huh. Okay. Well I guess we'll all have to continue to operate under the assumption that you are completely wrong. Just because you have personally decided that she shares your religion, doesn't make it true. It's not supported by anything in the games. It's you own personal fanfic theory, which no one else appears to subscribe to.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 23 février 2012 - 04:40 .

[syllogi]

NICKjnp wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Nick, please explain why gay and/or bisexual people are not allowed to believe in God.

I'm not talking about belonging to an organized religion, you seem to be implying that I am not allowed to believe in a higher power or have any sort of spirituality.  

Please let me know why I don't deserve to go Heaven.

TIA.

This goes into an area that is specifically against site rules.  I've already talked aobut it more than I should have.  There is more to say about the issue but this is not the site to do so since bioware says not to talk about it.

To everyone else:  I'm sorry if my religion offends you.  But it is my religion and I'm just as entitled to my beliefs as you are yours.  I have every much a right to be offended and voice my opinion.  Just as you are getting GLBT characters that represent you...I want to be represented in the same way.  And doing this to Ashley will offend me.

Yeah, figured.  

Just be aware that you have created a backstory for Ashley which does not exist in the game.  At no point does she say she is Christian, and at no point does she express an opinion about homosexuality.  You are no different than someone who decides to imagine that Ashley is in love with their female Shepard, in that regard.

You are entitled to your offense, but realize that it's your own fault for getting attached to your own headcanon.

[Maugrim]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

To everyone else:  I'm sorry if my religion offends you.  But it is my religion and I'm just as entitled to my beliefs as you are yours.  I have every much a right to be offended and voice my opinion.  Just as you are getting GLBT characters that represent you...I want to be represented in the same way.  And doing this to Ashley will offend me.

Your religion doesn't offend me, the use of your spiritual beliefs for a selfish purpouse is the problem.

I'm sort of offended by the idea that anyone who supports gay rights is not allowed to be a Christian.

Which incidently is the majority of mainline christians in America and I presume Canada with is being more liberal in general.  You know according to unbiased, factual polls!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 23 février 2012 - 04:41 .

[GodWood]

StonedBatman wrote...
They do nothing for the story, except complain.

Ashley and Kaidan are only there to bend over at the right times and accept the invasion.

Yeah, you pretty much just described Garrus and Tali too. Garrus more so.

DeathScepter wrote...
Keep in Mind that a lot of the bible was written for the people of that era.

That's because it was made up by the people of that era.

[Major League]

those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

[izmirtheastarach]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Which incidently is the majority of mainline christians in America and I presume Canada with is being more liberal in general.  You know according to unbiased, factually polls!

Last time I stuck my finger out in the cold Canadian winter, that was the case.

[mauro2222]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I'm sort of offended by the idea that anyone who supports gay rights is not allowed to be a Christian.

He can believe in whatever he wants, but if he voices such spirtuality he needs to expect opossition.
This is why organized religions are a fail, they are just a mean to control populations.
Spirituality should be very personal, and it has to be developed by the person itself, not by outside influences.

[Badpie]

Major League wrote...

those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

I hate to burst your bubble of hilarity but there are plenty of gay Jews, Muslims and of every other religious persuasion.

[android654]

Major League wrote...

those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

Judaism teaches that all sins are forgiven regardless of your status since they don't believe in punishment. No satan , no hell, simply peace after death.

Buddhism doesn't really touch on sexuality. It's goal is to elevate its disciples to aplane of existence higher than the flesh, and marital staus isn't important. So monks can be gay, but decades in a monestary is intended to remove the need for sex becuase you would be above it.

[Ryzaki]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Indeed. Good thing too. Not that her tolerance on that subject stopped that particular Shep from Virmiring her anyway.

My Shep nuked her for mostly two reasons. A. She kept ninjaing him unless he was a douche and B. Her smart assness pissed him off.

[syllogi]

Major League wrote...

those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

Much like Christianity, different denominations of Judaism have different beliefs:  http://en.wikipedia....ual_orientation

[StonedBatman]

This thread is gay.
S/S romances are gay.
All the romances in the game SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Characters who turn bi for the ending. Suck.
Garrus and Tali suddenly turn gay? Bioware SUCK.
You people all suck.

I hope you same sex supporterz are happy now that you've got gay Kaidan. Well done, you ust ruined a good character.

[izmirtheastarach]

Good contribution there.

[Maugrim]

I would hope they suck!

[mauro2222]

StonedBatman wrote...

This thread is gay.
S/S romances are gay.
All the romances in the game SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Characters who turn bi for the ending. Suck.
Garrus and Tali suddenly turn gay? Bioware SUCK.
You people all suck.

I hope you same sex supporterz are happy now that you've got gay Kaidan. Well done, you ust ruined a good character.

Indeed, he is going to go into your quarters and make you anal fisting.

[GodWood]

syllogi wrote...

Major League wrote...
those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

Much like Christianity, different denominations of Judaism have different beliefs:  http://en.wikipedia....ual_orientation

Much like Christians, Jews will do anything to make their primitive, barbaric religion acceptable in the modern world.

StonedBatman wrote...
I hope you same sex supporterz are happy now that you've got gay Kaidan. Well done, you ust ruined a good character.

Yup. The compltely heterosexual bromance between my Shep and Kaidan has been destroyed.

Modifié par GodWood, 23 février 2012 - 04:50 .

[mauro2222]

makenzieshepard wrote...

I would hope they suck!

Oh honey, my mind has traveled to some rare places, and I LIKE IT

[MACharlie1]

GodWood wrote...

syllogi wrote...

Major League wrote...
those religions dont support s/s. even though having a gay jew squadmate would be funny lol

Much like Christianity, different denominations of Judaism have different beliefs:  http://en.wikipedia....ual_orientation

Much like Christians, Jews will do anything to make their primitive, barbaric religion acceptable in the modern world.

You're venturing into trolling, dude. Actually, I think you already jumped into it. 

[SolidBeast]

StonedBatman wrote...

I hope you same sex supporterz are happy now that you've got gay Kaidan. Well done, you ust ruined a good character.

I'm gonna give it to him so hard.