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[tez19]

[quote]a load of stanton wrote...

[quote]tez19 wrote...

[quote]a load of stanton wrote...

it was a dreadnought if it was a cruiser the reaper would of 1 shotted it with its main gun while this ship took 2-3 shots from the main gun of said reaper 1 to drop shields 2 to finish it of end of story[/quote]
Sorry son but it has been confirmed by dev's that this is NOT a dreadnought, and it is a glaring script error.


is it getting fixed or if not PREORDER CANCELD[/quote]
That's right, change the subject because you have been proven wrong, son.

[Zandercode]

Hmm, well if you guys are so sure I'm wrong then I guess the I could be afterall the artbook doesn't label the ships I'm looking at, though I can't imagine what else the two ships here are, there's a pic of the regular cruiser, and then a pic of a much larger ship that look almost identical with a few tweak, so I'm just assuming it's the dreadnaught as it looks like what's in the demo to me.

[a load of stanton]

[quote]Anacronian Stryx wrote...

[quote]a load of stanton wrote...

it was a dreadnought if it was a cruiser the reaper would of 1 shotted it with its main gun while this ship took 2-3 shots from the main gun of said reaper 1 to drop shields 2 to finish it of end of story[/quote]


Actually you can make it take 1000 shoots before it goes down just don't move forward ..also how the hell do you know the reaper is using it's main gun?

Oh and BTW it was a cruiser.[/

it is using its main gun because that gun was its spinal gun which is ALOT more powerfull than 1 of its tentical guns

[Bigaddygun]

Zandercode wrote...

The only difference in appearance between a dreadnaught and a cruiser is the dreadnaught has 4 thrusters like the Normandy instead of 2, and the main guns appear to be a part of the thrusters portions of the ship instead of the central hull like the cruisers, otherwise, they look damn similar. Notice how the ship in the demo is firing its guns from either side or "shoulder" instead of the big central portion - that proves it is a dreadnaught and not a cruiser, a cruiser fires from the center as seen in the final battle against Sovereign in ME1. So Ash/Kaidan were correct.

Now whether a dreadnaught should be able to get that low to the ground without crashing is debatable, as the lore says they can't land on planets, though this one doesn't exactly land and they are in a rather extreme situation where they may be willing to pull a few more dangerous moves like that.

The thing is Bioware have already said it is not a dreadnought in the demo. It was a scripting mistake. That reiterates what the lore says about dreadnaught not being able to land on planets. 

[tez19]

Zandercode wrote...

Hmm, well if you guys are so sure I'm wrong then I guess the I could be afterall the artbook doesn't label the ships I'm looking at, though I can't imagine what else the two ships here are, there's a pic of the regular cruiser, and then a pic of a much larger ship that look almost identical with a few tweak, so I'm just assuming it's the dreadnaught as it looks like what's in the demo to me.

No offense mate, but i will believe a dev over you.

[a load of stanton]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

a load of stanton wrote...

it was a dreadnought if it was a cruiser the reaper would of 1 shotted it with its main gun while this ship took 2-3 shots from the main gun of said reaper 1 to drop shields 2 to finish it of end of story

Actually you can make it take 1000 shoots before it goes down just don't move forward ..also how the hell do you know the reaper is using it's main gun?

Oh and BTW it was a cruiser.

because the gun it was using was the main spinal gun not 1 of the tentical guns

[eoinnx02]

What a tight ass.

[didymos1120]

Zandercode wrote...

Hmm, well if you guys are so sure I'm wrong then I guess the I could be afterall the artbook doesn't label the ships I'm looking at...

Which artbook and what page please.

[Zandercode]

I wish I could show you all the picture I'm talking about, because there's definitely something new that's bigger than the type of ship we saw at the Battle of the Citadel in ME1. By the way, no hostilities here, just discussing this, I didn't know a dev had said otherwise but I'm still curious what this new ship design is if it's not a dreadnaught.

[squee365]

oh my god a writing mistake in a AAA video game? WHAT THE HELL!?

[graciegrace]

I thought it was a miscommunication, not a blatant error. The script people intended for it to be a dreadnaught, but the visual... people thought they wanted a cruiser, or something like that...

[GnusmasTHX]

Zandercode wrote...

The only difference in appearance between a dreadnaught and a cruiser is the dreadnaught has 4 thrusters like the Normandy instead of 2, and the main guns appear to be a part of the thrusters portions of the ship instead of the central hull like the cruisers, otherwise, they look damn similar. Notice how the ship in the demo is firing its guns from either side or "shoulder" instead of the big central portion - that proves it is a dreadnaught and not a cruiser, a cruiser fires from the center as seen in the final battle against Sovereign in ME1. So Ash/Kaidan were correct.

Now whether a dreadnaught should be able to get that low to the ground without crashing is debatable, as the lore says they can't land on planets, though this one doesn't exactly land and they are in a rather extreme situation where they may be willing to pull a few more dangerous moves like that.

You know if you actually look at the image from the Art Book, you'd see that the ship in the demo is a cruiser, rather than a dreadnought.

There are two jutting spires extending from the main center portion of the ship, akin to ME1, and like the image in the Art Book... of a cruiser.

The Art Book shows dreadnoughts without the two extensions on the main gun. To iterate my point:





The ship in red is a cruiser, and you'll find the profile matches the one in the demo. The ship in purple is a dreadnought.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 21 février 2012 - 05:58 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

a load of stanton wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

a load of stanton wrote...

it was a dreadnought if it was a cruiser the reaper would of 1 shotted it with its main gun while this ship took 2-3 shots from the main gun of said reaper 1 to drop shields 2 to finish it of end of story

Actually you can make it take 1000 shoots before it goes down just don't move forward ..also how the hell do you know the reaper is using it's main gun?

Oh and BTW it was a cruiser.

it is using its main gun because that gun was its spinal gun which is ALOT more powerfull than 1 of its tentical guns

The spinal mounted gun is fixed forward mounted between the tentacles - we haven't even seen it deployed yet in the game nor in any trailers.

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 21 février 2012 - 05:58 .

[Sylvara]

Does it matter? Many of us won't recognise it straight off the bat that it isn't a dreadnought. As long as they don't have any more mistakes like this littered everywhere, I don't actually mind.

It was a single mistake, so not a great first impression but I will reserve judgement until I play the full game.

[Zandercode]

I'm talking about "The Art of the Mass Effect Universe" page 176, the two ships at the bottom of the page. I'd get in trouble if I posted the pic here but if anyone else has the book, take a look. I'm not arguing, like I said I wasn't aware of the dev comment when I said that, but I'm still curious what that ships IS supposed to be then.

[tez19]

squee365 wrote...

oh my god a writing mistake in a AAA video game? WHAT THE HELL!?

But with this glaring error is it a AAA title now? That is debateable.

[Bigaddygun]

Zandercode wrote...

I wish I could show you all the picture I'm talking about, because there's definitely something new that's bigger than the type of ship we saw at the Battle of the Citadel in ME1. By the way, no hostilities here, just discussing this, I didn't know a dev had said otherwise but I'm still curious what this new ship design is if it's not a dreadnaught.

I think I know what you are talking about, I've seen most of the scans of Art Book myself. I think the ship design could be a dreadnought but it could also be a new crusier ship class or another species ship such as the Turians. Can't remember it completely though. 

[didymos1120]

tez19 wrote...

squee365 wrote...

oh my god a writing mistake in a AAA video game? WHAT THE HELL!?

But with this glaring error is it a AAA title now? That is debateable.

Was ME1 a AAA title?

[Anacronian Stryx]

Zandercode wrote...

I'm talking about "The Art of the Mass Effect Universe" page 176, the two ships at the bottom of the page. I'd get in trouble if I posted the pic here but if anyone else has the book, take a look. I'm not arguing, like I said I wasn't aware of the dev comment when I said that, but I'm still curious what that ships IS supposed to be then.

I have the book and the ship in the demo is clearly the smaller of the two ship (on top).

[Bigaddygun]

 i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/hotrodltz/Dreadnought.jpg

Was this what you were talking about?

[Belhawk]

Why did BW make a cruiser & dreadnought look so similar?

[DJBare]

This was already confirmed to be a scripting error, by the time they realised their mistake the VA's had gone home and it was too late to call them back in for another recording session.

[tez19]

Belhawk wrote...

Why did BW make a cruiser & dreadnought look so similar?

Maybe it was another glaring error? Art people must be spending too much time with the writing department.

[Bigaddygun]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Zandercode wrote...

The only difference in appearance between a dreadnaught and a cruiser is the dreadnaught has 4 thrusters like the Normandy instead of 2, and the main guns appear to be a part of the thrusters portions of the ship instead of the central hull like the cruisers, otherwise, they look damn similar. Notice how the ship in the demo is firing its guns from either side or "shoulder" instead of the big central portion - that proves it is a dreadnaught and not a cruiser, a cruiser fires from the center as seen in the final battle against Sovereign in ME1. So Ash/Kaidan were correct.

Now whether a dreadnaught should be able to get that low to the ground without crashing is debatable, as the lore says they can't land on planets, though this one doesn't exactly land and they are in a rather extreme situation where they may be willing to pull a few more dangerous moves like that.

You know if you actually look at the image from the Art Book, you'd see that the ship in the demo is a cruiser, rather than a dreadnought.

There are two jutting spires extending from the main center portion of the ship, akin to ME1, and like the image in the Art Book... of a cruiser.

The Art Book shows dreadnoughts without the two extensions on the main gun. To iterate my point:





The ship in red is a cruiser, and you'll find the profile matches the one in the demo. The ship in purple is a dreadnought.

They all look like dreadnoughts both the red and purple. You said that the Art Book shows dreadnoughts without the two extensions on the main gun, then doesn't the red one like look the smaller dreadnought? 

[GnusmasTHX]

Belhawk wrote...

Why did BW make a cruiser & dreadnought look so similar?

Why would they look overly different? It's clear that all ships within the Alliance share a similar profile. Many ships within a faction also share similar profiles. The quarian worldship looks like the quarian... not-world ship. What's strange is the disparity between turian capital ships and turian fighters.