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#76
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I would try to make peace, if not posssible then use legion as a trojan horse to wipe out Geth. Si mply due to the fact that they might be working with reapers or are working with reapers.

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In ME2 I chose to rewrite the heretic in hope that they'll possibly be the strongest ally to humanity in the fight against reapers. I also chose to free the Rachni queen. All in all, the choices I made hopefully will be beneficial in building a happy ending in ME3 for me. So I'll choose whichever side that will be the most beneficial to the war against reapers if I had to be forced to choose only one side in the first place.

Consider myself unrealistic or wishful thinking but I don't play fictional RP games to be all that realistic and with a sad ending. If I want realism, I'd turn off my monitor and walk out of door and the reality we face in real life itself is already enough with pressures and tragic. I don't need more of that in my get away RP fantasy. So I hope dev would at least give ppl who prefer a more happy ending route an alternative choice like we did in ME2. I saved all crew and the best possible ending. Realistic? no but it suits my taste as a perfect fictional rp story :)

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Realistically i will get a Geth and Quarian alliance going, which is possible for me. Full Paragon Bar, Completed both Loyality Missions and both survived. Now i just have to make the correct decisions in ME3

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I hope I can have both as allies... send the Geth in first before wasting good Organic life...

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Justicar wrote...



I like to consider Quarians Vs. Geth a hostile Cold War.


Yeah it's basically the same thing. With the small exception that one side exterminated over 90 % of the population of the other. Otherwise, basically identical! :D


Justicar wrote...

Explain how they're a menace.

They might end up saving us from the Reapers.
The True Geth have been isolationist for 300 years.
They have an amazing and ideal form of 'government'.


Synthetic life form that can probably, and easily, build an army that outnumbers all other sentients in the galaxy.

With a history of mass genocide.

And violent isolationism.

The fact that they're ruled by logic and not emotion is far from being an assurance of safety. They decided, logically, to exterminate the Quarians in their path down to wee kiddies.

Why wouldn't Legion withhold truth from you? The Geth could be achieving consensus for anything.

So yes.. the Geth Menace. Quite frankly they're the scariest thing in the ME universe baring the Reapers.

On topic: peace if possible. Quarians if not.

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I side with the quarians of course.

The geth are just machines and they're the very reason why the reaper extinction cycle happens in the first place. I say we destroy them all.

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Quarians are my favourite race, so If there can be no peaceful solution I'll pick them.

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"Whoah, whoah, hang on a minute! I just—I just need to understand something. Right, so. You will fight against them, they will fight against you all on account of him wanting to kill him? Where is the sense? Exactly. I say, let them fight each other! While we lay back, watch, have a drink, place some wagers! Eh?!"
―Jack Sparrow

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Quarians. They're dicks (or pass around the idiot ball too much), but they have the stronger fleet since I blew up the heretics.

Buuut, since I did blow up the heretics, I won't have to make that choice.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 23 février 2012 - 12:11 .


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Random Jerkface wrote...

Quarians. They're dicks (or pass around the idiot ball too much), but they have the stronger fleet since I blew up the heretics.

Buuut, since I did blow up the heretics, I won't have to make that choice.


The Geth actually still have the stronger fleet. The Heretics were only a small percentage of the total Geth numbers. 

And you will still have to choose either the Geth, The Quarians, or making peace.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 23 février 2012 - 12:14 .


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i go quarians cause geth are machines meant to serve us organics without us the they scrap metal, how dare they defy us get me a glass a water machine. we made them and it is time we destroy them.

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sunnydxmen wrote...

i go quarians cause geth are machines meant to serve us organics without us the they scrap metal, how dare they defy us get me a glass a water machine. we made them and it is time we destroy them.


Seems like a waste of an immense fleet and ground force.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

The Geth actually still have the stronger fleet. The Heretics were only a small percentage of the total Geth numbers. 

And you will still have to choose either the Geth, The Quarians, or making peace.

Makes sense. I suppose the choice really only affects who's winning the conflict.

As for the decision, I meant being forced to go either/or (both is obviously ideal). Pretty sure there's also a persuasion checkpoint, but eh.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 23 février 2012 - 12:41 .


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Peace at all cost!

Otherwise I will wait how both races will present themselves in ME3.
Spoiler:

In earlier ME3-footage we saw a reaper emerge from a geth-base.Not the best argument to side with them.
And if the quarian people unite themselves behind Admiral Xen, who rewrites the geth while cutting her childhood-toy apart and makes an evil laugh, I'm not that sure about them either.

/Spoiler

Modifié par TekFanX, 23 février 2012 - 12:42 .


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FoxShadowblade wrote...

I'll make sure my paragon/renegade scores are well above the required mark to convince them to be peaceful.

Problem solved. Ah, gameplay mechanics, how I love thee.

I just spent like 10 minutes reading all of the quotes in ur sig.

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Luc0s wrote...

I side with the quarians of course.

The geth are just machines and they're the very reason why the reaper extinction cycle happens in the first place. I say we destroy them all.

and how are the geth causing this? this cycle has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.

Back on topic: I would do my best to achieve peace, if i can't, then I will choose the geth. I feel for the Quarians and think they have more reason to survive than the geth, however, this is a war for survival. The geth would give us a better chance of survival than the quarians could. 5% of the geth + sovereign nearly wiped out the council fleet. I can't imagine what adding the other 95% would do. Also, the Geth would be much more useful on the ground, quarians die if they get a nick in their suit, Legion was a badass and took a rifle shot to the chest and is still alive. Finally, the geth also have those walkers that they could use.

Modifié par Grimez7, 23 février 2012 - 01:04 .


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Can someone tell me the three options I keep hearing about? or PM me

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TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...

Can someone tell me the three options I keep hearing about? or PM me


What do you mean? Are they not pretty clear?

1. Side with Quarians.
2. Side with Geth.
3. Make peace.

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Oh, thanks! I thought that was what they were, but I wasn't 100%. And honestly, I couldn't see anybody really advocating war with one or the other. Even if one side came out victotious, they would be weakened from the war, and not as helpful. Could you tell me how to achieve peace, or point me in the direction to find said info?

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Here is the dialogue of Legion Death(beware is fragmented and also spoilers):
social.bioware.com/group/5245/discussion/19135/

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TheInvicibleCandyBar wrote...
Could you tell me how to achieve peace, or point me in the direction to find said info?

http://social.bioware.com/group/5245/discussion/19109/

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I cannot fracking wait to play through the section of the game. There is nothing I am more looking forward to.

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Peace, if not Quarians.
Why:

1) The bloody history
This is of itself means very little. True that the heretics who fought and killed so many on behalf of the reapers were not representing the Geth, but what about all the other deaths? The Geth rather mercilessly butchered anyone who entered into "their" space.
Then there is the fact that after the Quarians were defeated, the Geth went about exterminating the entire population of Quarians that were left behind by the Migrant Fleet. Every last Quarian on every single planet in every single solar system. It wasn't like, "oh hey, we defeated the Quarians in the morning war. Lets carve out our territory and establish our own civilization." It was: "Lets go about hunting down every last Quarian world and butcher their babies."

Given their commitment to excellence, what will be the obvious logical conclusion upon the first diplomatic incident that will inevitably occur? "Hey, those Salarians are spying on us. Lets go about hunting down every last Salarian world and butcher their babies!"

2) The Geth weaknesses
The ease by which a reaper virus was able to be used to rewrite an entire population speaks to the unreliability of the Geth. Why would I want a death star that has such an obvious vulnerability? Imagine, a massive synthetic army waiting to be controlled by the next Cerberus lunatic/Reaper virus/Geth repuposed Reaper Virus/Deranged Quarians. No thank you.

Organics, on the other hand, we can clear see to be very difficult to control. Indoctrination takes time AND proximity to occur. Quarians are most obviously the stronger ally of the two.

3) Blatant Racism
Quarians are more similar to Humans.

4) Self-Interest

Personal Self-Interest
Likelihood of Male-Shep sleeping with a Quarian: 100%
Likelihood of Male-Shep sleeping with a Geth: 0%

Political Self-Interest
Having the Quarians being obviously indebted to you is also advantageous on the galactic scene. Vassal/Puppet states come to mind.
Likelihood of acquiring a Quarian Vassal State: Fairly good
Likelihood of acquiring a Geth Vassal State: 0

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GordonNoob2010 wrote...

Peace, if not Quarians.
Why:

1) The bloody history
This is of itself means very little. True that the heretics who fought and killed so many on behalf of the reapers were not representing the Geth, but what about all the other deaths? The Geth rather mercilessly butchered anyone who entered into "their" space.
Then there is the fact that after the Quarians were defeated, the Geth went about exterminating the entire population of Quarians that were left behind by the Migrant Fleet. Every last Quarian on every single planet in every single solar system. It wasn't like, "oh hey, we defeated the Quarians in the morning war. Lets carve out our territory and establish our own civilization." It was: "Lets go about hunting down every last Quarian world and butcher their babies."

Given their commitment to excellence, what will be the obvious logical conclusion upon the first diplomatic incident that will inevitably occur? "Hey, those Salarians are spying on us. Lets go about hunting down every last Salarian world and butcher their babies!"

2) The Geth weaknesses
The ease by which a reaper virus was able to be used to rewrite an entire population speaks to the unreliability of the Geth. Why would I want a death star that has such an obvious vulnerability? Imagine, a massive synthetic army waiting to be controlled by the next Cerberus lunatic/Reaper virus/Geth repuposed Reaper Virus/Deranged Quarians. No thank you.

Organics, on the other hand, we can clear see to be very difficult to control. Indoctrination takes time AND proximity to occur. Quarians are most obviously the stronger ally of the two.

3) Blatant Racism
Quarians are more similar to Humans.

4) Self-Interest

Personal Self-Interest
Likelihood of Male-Shep sleeping with a Quarian: 100%
Likelihood of Male-Shep sleeping with a Geth: 0%

Political Self-Interest
Having the Quarians being obviously indebted to you is also advantageous on the galactic scene. Vassal/Puppet states come to mind.
Likelihood of acquiring a Quarian Vassal State: Fairly good
Likelihood of acquiring a Geth Vassal State: 0


Well said :) If peace is impossible, I stand by the Quarians for the exact same (only the first 2, though) reasons you gave.

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Peace or the Geth.

The were in the wrong to try and commit genocide and i couldn't support them for it.