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[Skyblade012]

This question has been asked before, but I'm coming at it from a different angle.  After seeing the new trailer, I have to wonder, why are we fighting for this planet?  It's junk.  The entire planetary surface seems to have been reduced to ash, with most, if not all, of the world's population converted to husks or killed.  What is on this planet that is worth fighting for?  Just bomb it from orbit and move on, I can't see anything of value there anymore.

Modifié par Skyblade012, 22 février 2012 - 10:35 .

[Ziggeh]

Wildy stabbing in the dark, but I suspect some people live there.

[AlexXIV]

Ziggeh wrote...

Wildy stabbing in the dark, but I suspect some people live there.

That and also, if you watched the trailer, for revenge.

[JediHealerCosmin]

If anyone is gonna take over the planet, it's going to be me.

Ziggeh wrote...

Wildy stabbing in the dark, but I suspect some people live there.

That 2.

[Skyblade012]

Ziggeh wrote...

Wildy stabbing in the dark, but I suspect some people live there.

They did.  I don't see anything to show that they do now.  We've seen entire continents engulfed in flame, and even a flower patch in the middle of nowhere (aka, a low priority target) has been reduced to a husk-infested wasteland.

[Forst1999]

The genocide of the protheans took centuries (if i recall correctly). So it's safe to assume that there are enough humans left after a few weeks to warrant a rescue operation. And enough Reapers in one place to severly hit them with something.

[SNascimento]

Because it's our homeplanet?

[SeminoleFarms]

Skyblade012 wrote...

... why are we fighting for this planet? ...

Just a guess, but I'm thinking the game would be pretty short and uninteresting if we adjusted our configs, made our Shepard, started a new game, witnessed the destruction, then the credits rolled....

[yamomoto]

because its the home-world for the human race. also i think time has a factor in ME3's ending, so say if you take earth back in a week most of the cities will still be standing(with Anderson alive) where as if you take it back a few months later it will be complete ash (with Anderson dead).

[Mr. Parker]

Because it's much better marketing and promotional material than retaking some alien planet nobody gives a damn about.

[AlexXIV]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...

... why are we fighting for this planet? ...

Just a guess, but I'm thinking the game would be pretty short and uninteresting if we adjusted our configs, made our Shepard, started a new game, witnessed the destruction, then the credits rolled....

I think he is referring to the possibility that Earth is a worthless heap of ash at that point. But hell, it's our worthless heap of ash and we want it back!

[DJBare]

Symbolism.

[Apollo Starflare]

I think the Council, and some of the other races in general, will be asking the exact same question.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Because Anderson is there, that's why.

Everyone else can burn.

[AkiKishi]

Same reason people fight for their country I guess just on a larger scale.

[Jure Simich]

Three reasons.

First, it's unlikely the reapers have managed to get quite everyone, so there are still people to save. After all... if the reapers are still there, there must be more humans left to huskify/indoctrinate.

Second, it's the Homeworld. If it falls, morale takes a huge blow. Humanity could splinter along regional lines.

Third, war is going to cause a lot more damage, and wouldn't it be better to fight on an already damaged world instead of on a pristine one?

[wildannie]

I see your point OP and I expect that the priority is going to have to be preventing other planets and the galaxy sharing the fate of earth, taking earth back has to be secondary to that, unless there is an important reaper leader there whose destruction is key to wider success.

[AlexXIV]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Because Anderson is there, that's why.

Everyone else can burn.

Anderson, Hackett, Udina, the VS ... they all can burn. They didn't help Shepard when they could and should. Instead they were busy 'making career'. Only when the Reapers landed they sent Shepard off to fix their problem again. If I am going back then for the innocents, not the idiots.

[Skyblade012]

Forst1999 wrote...

The genocide of the protheans took centuries (if i recall correctly). So it's safe to assume that there are enough humans left after a few weeks to warrant a rescue operation. And enough Reapers in one place to severly hit them with something.

Sure, but that was the genocide of the Protheans, not the time it took to eliminate a single planet.  The Protheans had colonized most of the known galaxy by that point.  It would take centuries for the Reapers to wipe out that much space, yes, but that's the elimination of all of Citadel space, not just a single planet.

Granted, we may be a little lucky that the Reapers (for some unknown reason) didn't pull their usual "methodically bomb the planet from orbit" that the ME2 planet entries seems to imply they prefer, but they have have more than enough firepower and ships to encircle the entire globe (we've seen it), and they have been just blowing it away constantly.

I'm not arguing against taking the fight to the Reapers if they are still on Earth, I'm arguing about the senseless tactics in fighting a ground war when it is unnecessary.  You are losing troops and men for no reason.  If you get rid of the Reaper fleet, bomb the planet from orbit (and if not, sending troops down is a waste).  It's already been bombed from orbit, it's not really going to hurt it to have it happen again.  Wipe out as many of the husks and Reaper devices in as safe a manner as possible, don't just rush troops down there for no reason, where they will be killed by husks or indoctrinated by Reaper devices.

What is there to gain?

[squee365]

HUMANS

[didymos1120]

Unless Shep ends up spending a few years gathering allies, I'm pretty sure most everyone on Earth will still be alive by the time he/she gets back.

[Razorsedge820]

Because Shepard dropped his wallet while rushing to the Normandy for Evac, he will shoot through every husk and reaper until one of them cough it up, and then he will leave.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 21 février 2012 - 07:08 .

[Cosmar]

Symbolism mostly, I think. Same reason Germany and Russia fought so hard over Stalingrad in WW2. It wasn't the highest priority target militarily speaking, but it bore the name of Russia's leader. If Germany could capture it, it would have been a huge morale boost for his regime and a morale failure for Russia, and vice versa. By the end of the battle, little was left in Stalingrad to give it value, but still, it was the idea of it.

[Niemack Saarinen]

Humans are humans, we naturally fight over "our" land, reapers be- damned, you'd fight to win back what was yours even if its scorched earth, its the principal. Also, if you keep running you wont have anything, not even that piece of earth, so, stand up and fight.

[Skyblade012]

Cosmar wrote...

Symbolism mostly, I think. Same reason Germany and Russia fought so hard over Stalingrad in WW2. It wasn't the highest priority target militarily speaking, but it bore the name of Russia's leader. If Germany could capture it, it would have been a huge morale boost for his regime and a morale failure for Russia, and vice versa. By the end of the battle, little was left in Stalingrad to give it value, but still, it was the idea of it.

Most of the armies fighting to retake Earth aren't human, so the symbolism for them is pointless.  Also, if, as it seems, the Reapers have been sitting on their butts on this one planet (which is the only way you can make Earth the focus of the game, and the reason why on most planets we only see one Reaper, rather than thousands of them), then once you beat them on Earth, you've beaten them basically everywhere, and the particular morale boost you'd get from this victory is pointless.  The war is already over, you've won.

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

Humans are humans, we naturally fight over "our" land, reapers be- damned, you'd fight to win back what was yours even if its scorched earth, its the principal. Also, if you keep running you wont have anything, not even that piece of earth, so, stand up and fight.

It's not my land, I've never been there.  And, since I won't be able to tell the difference between it being nuked once and nuked twice, I'd prefer it was nuked twice so that I'm a lot less likely to be killed when I go down there.

Modifié par Skyblade012, 21 février 2012 - 07:11 .