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[MITHbusters]

[Sad attempt at wit removed]

Modifié par JohnEpler, 22 février 2012 - 12:09 .

[Pinkflu]

JohnEpler wrote...

[Sad attempt at wit removed]

Lulz.

[Bladefist_01]

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Modifié par Bladefist_01, 22 février 2012 - 12:12 .

[Mr.House]

Hating a game is one thing, not liking what she did in DA2 is one thing. Insulting a person, threatening her and just being a complete jerkface is disgusting and uncalled for. More so when people bash ME3 and say it's all her fault even though she had no hand in the game. It's good to see Bioware support her and it's good to see this crap is being taken care of. Yes it's the internet, that still does not give people the excuse to bash someone just because they did not like their work.

[Dirtyjuice]

Edit: Retort put down.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 22 février 2012 - 12:15 .

[John Epler]

Bladefist_01 wrote...

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Were you one of the people originally attacking Jennifer? No? Then it's not directed at you.

If you were? Well, my sympathies are nonexistent. Either way, I've already addressed the whole position of 'WELL SHE DESERVED IT', and how it's not one that will continue in this thread.

[Lemondish]

Dear Jennifer,

I only now read about these events from Kotaku. It is sickening. I know the nature of online anonymity, having been with my gamer girlfriend for the past 4 years, but I cannot imagine how difficult it must be being a woman, a gamer, a mother, and working in this industry. Your work has been inspiring, and you have a perfectly valid perspective in wanting to spread the past time we love so much to people who, in their busy lives, cannot sit down and play the same way others might.

I agree with you, this shouldn't mean that storytelling has to take a back seat. I think that perspective has been embraced at Bioware evident in the development of three different ways to play the upcoming Mass Effect 3. Now each gamer, regardless of skill, capability or time investment can experience a deep and engaging story how they want. I suppose it was too much to ask people to get the full context out of a limited interview, just as it was too much to ask people to treat each other like human beings. 

I'm really quite sorry that you haven't been treated fairly in any of this. I believe your work in this industry is fantastic and your perspectives refreshing and novel. I hope this doesn't affect your life anymore than it already has.

From one Canadian to another, it gets better, eh.

P.S. Just assuming you're a canuck, what with working at a great company like Bioware

Modifié par Lemondish, 22 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[TEWR]

Too broke to donate any money, but I will say that I find it deplorable how petty and moronic people can be.

That said, Mrs. Hepler's comment about them being jealous was not the best thing to say. Certainly, the personal attacks were not only unwarranted, but asenine. No one should have to be the target of threats, harassment, and everything else. But given her position at Bioware, I do think a certain level of decorum should be present and she shouldn't stoop to the same level of insults that these people are going to such lengths to give.

Granted, her retort did give me a chuckle. But it doesn't paint her in the best light either.

At any rate, I don't consider her a bad writer. She's responsible for the Anvil of the Void questline and for writing Branka and Hespith. That quest is my favorite for non-Dwarven characters, and pretty good for my Dwarf Noble. Just had one flaw for Xanthos Aeducan.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 22 février 2012 - 12:19 .

[Mr.House]

Bladefist_01 wrote...

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Sure she should not have done that, but can you really blame her? She has been insulted and abused for months, it got out of hand to the point where she had enough. You keep kicking a dog and they will bite you one day.

[John Epler]

Dirtyjuice wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

[Sad attempt at wit removed]

I thought this was a western country that supported free speech, not North Korea

It's a private web forum wherein we have certain rules people agree to when they post here. Don't like them? Don't post here!

If you think this is unfair, well, such is life. I suggest you write your local political representative.

[billy the squid]

Edit: Lets try to stay on topic please.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 22 février 2012 - 12:18 .

[Xewaka]

Edit: Lets try to stay on topic please.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 22 février 2012 - 12:18 .

[Arnagath]

I agree that the interactive gameplay part is important. And this should be improved. 

However, the interactive part exists in talking, choosing which things to do. Do I talk my way through the situation? Do I steal the plans? Do I just kill the person holding them? Do I convince him to give them to me so that he can have sex with one of my companions? 
Ahh you say, there is a fight there... Yes indeed there is, it is very important, and should in itself be interesting. Tactical but "realistic". Just play Baldurs Gate and take random the npc. The fights are quite interesting because of the large amount of spells and skills which are very powerful. Some final fantasy games (the turnbased ones) have a few tactical things one can learn. Dont be afraid to make combat very quick.
Ahh you say, but what makes games fun is multiplayer, neither this is a problem. Just build your game from the ground up to be a great storydriven RPG with multiplayer. But then we have to have fetch quests... No we dont, there are several ways to solve this...
AKA dont get stuck in your own world and have your own truths, and bladibla other stuff. Going to bed goodnight

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 22 février 2012 - 12:18 .

[Dhiro]

I'd love to be able to skip battles in a lot of games, methinks.

[AtreiyaN7]

Edit: Moving on. Stay on topic please. 

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 22 février 2012 - 12:19 .

[Tommy6860]

It's really sad that the critique of a person is based on the superpower feeling of being anonymous on the net. Whether or not I I like or dislike her writing (I loved DA:O, not so much DAII), what one likes about one's writing is completely subjective to the taste of that person and their style of gaming. Writing for games is the medium of her job, so critique away (respectfully of course), just don't make it personal. What isn't acceptable is to make personal attacks against her, completely baseless to the fact of her writing; this says much more about the purpose of their anonymity than it even remotely does about her writing styles.

It makes it even worse when there are even some here at the BSN that engage in the same effect. It is one of reasons why I venture here as much as I once did.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 22 février 2012 - 12:20 .

[jlb524]

I liked Jennifer's writing in DA2 *shrugs*

Chris Priestly wrote...
Additionally we will be making a donation of $1000 in Jennifer's name to Bullying Canada. Please feel free to also donate to this worthy cause in support.

Thank you again to everyone who has supported Jennifer and BioWare in this difficult time.

I shall do that.

Thanks for supporting her and the cause!

[Fenton]

Bladefist_01 wrote...

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Wow I guess the trolls have come on this forum too. I should tell you to grow up.

[Kami102]

Modifié par Kami102, 22 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[Andhaira]

JohnEpler wrote...

Bladefist_01 wrote...

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Were you one of the people originally attacking Jennifer? No? Then it's not directed at you.

If you were? Well, my sympathies are nonexistent. Either way, I've already addressed the whole position of 'WELL SHE DESERVED IT', and how it's not one that will continue in this thread.

Whatever happened to "both sides of the story can be discussed"?

[RosaAquafire]

edit: ugh, post redacted, trying not to feed the trolls and to stay on topic :|

Modifié par RosaAquafire, 22 février 2012 - 12:22 .

[John Epler]

Andhaira wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

Bladefist_01 wrote...

Fenton wrote...

I'm glad Bioware is supporting thier employees. Having critisim is alright. Being an total jerk by using personal attacks and worse isn't alright. Those attacks that I've read was disgusting and uncalled for. Jennifier we have your support the fans of Bioware, your work and thier games we are supporting you.

You are completely right.

Were you one of the people originally attacking Jennifer? No? Then it's not directed at you.

If you were? Well, my sympathies are nonexistent. Either way, I've already addressed the whole position of 'WELL SHE DESERVED IT', and how it's not one that will continue in this thread.

Whatever happened to "both sides of the story can be discussed"?

As I originally explained - if you'd like to talk about her comments and her work in a respectful fashion, please, feel free.

However, there's no situation where the kind of harrassment that happened is in any way acceptable, and if you believe otherwise, we are operating under completely different concepts of appropriate human conduct.

[TEWR]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

You're in a private forum run by a private company, and I don't see any government funding involved. Here's my suggestion: go stand on a street corner and complain about having your (undoubtedly pathetic) comment deleted - you'll have all the free speech you want there.

Along with a slew of people pointing out how idiotic he is.

It's people like him -- along with the people that attack Mrs. Hepler for a comment she made 6 years ago that was simply about her personal tastes due to how she doesn't have time these days -- that makes me have little faith in humanity.

[RosaAquafire]

I do however think that a racist novelty account should be banned, that's clearly hate speech.

Modifié par RosaAquafire, 22 février 2012 - 12:23 .

[leeboi2]

Dogs are obviously my favourite animal, I don't mind cats at all; but nothing comes close to a dog...I rather like my Guinea Pig and Rabbit too