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#201
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I'm glad to see this thread.
A couple of days ago I saw some thread in another site and I could not believe the despicable misogynistic crap some people allowed themselves to throw, cowardly attacking a J. Hepler the way they did. It was both disturbing and infuriating.
I hope she can get past this quickly and continue with her work in BW.

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I don't like her writing nor do I think it's anything I'd personally consider good, in my opinion, however she still doesn't deserve the onslaught of hatred.

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Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Then put on your big boy pants and find some other cake instead of insulting the chief.

#204
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Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Oh boo bloody hoo. Cry me a river will you. "We used to love this company and now I'm going to nerd rage all over their forums because they don't do what I WANT them to do QQ". 

Get over yourself. 

If you want to get all "funny" with my video games, you should get out.

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teh_619 wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

She's talentless and incompetent.

Totally deserved all of this.

She's just proof of how much Bioware has fallen.

I think she's talentless and an awful writer but she doesn't deserve personal insults and slander.


She does but I'll forgive her if she just quits from video games industry.

People don't have to like Hepler's writing but the attacks she received are uncalled for; no one deserves that kind of vitriol. 

Its rediculous how far angry, insecure nerds will go on the internet just to ruin someone. I got about a million things that are better worth their time. For starters, not getting butthurt and taking something completely out of context. Next would actually be searching for a job. After that, moving out of their parent's basement. Etcetera.


Cry me a river or deal with it.

Oh don't worry, my eyes are dry as sand. Thanks for your concern though. 

#206
Ionized Crab

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SubspaceGirl wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


So leave the site, and stop buying the games. It's really that simple. 

Why should I have to?

I'm not the other trolls by the way. I'm not saying Hepler deserved this, she didn't.

But I used to love Bioware, so I joined a Bioware forum.

It's not my fault you enjoy their hand-holding RPGs. Tell me child, ever play a CRPG? I thought so.

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If you're going to edit my post, delete it entirely and not edit it so that it means something completely different from the original intended argument.

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If I don't like someone's work I can go to a forum and people can criticize it. There will be pure fans, pure haters, constructive criticism... all of them with their own opinions and ways to express it. Fine, free speech on the internet is great. BUT personal attacks, harassment, cyberbullying is totally unnaceptable. I can't say I'm a fan of hers, cause honestly I'm not, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate or insult her. Those who do that kind of thing should feel ashamed and even as a non-fan I send all my support to Jennifer.

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Deviija wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ladies and gentlemen, this is absolutely unacceptable.


Thanks for moderating this one so I didn't have to reply to it.  Had absolutely ZERO value beyond justifying bullying and harrassment of Hepler, and whinging about how horrible BioWare is. 

Just a heads up: If people want to give constructive criticism, then give constructive criticism.  But back that up with specifics and explanations.  'This is awful because I don't like it' does not work for any discussion. 


As a high functioning autist I have had my fair share of cyber bullying experiances and I can tell you guys and gals now It aint all sugar plums and marshmellows.

I hope the trolls harrassing Hams get punished.

#210
teh_619

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redBadger14 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

She's talentless and incompetent.

Totally deserved all of this.

She's just proof of how much Bioware has fallen.

I think she's talentless and an awful writer but she doesn't deserve personal insults and slander.


She does but I'll forgive her if she just quits from video games industry.

People don't have to like Hepler's writing but the attacks she received are uncalled for; no one deserves that kind of vitriol. 

Its rediculous how far angry, insecure nerds will go on the internet just to ruin someone. I got about a million things that are better worth their time. For starters, not getting butthurt and taking something completely out of context. Next would actually be searching for a job. After that, moving out of their parent's basement. Etcetera.


Cry me a river or deal with it.

Oh don't worry, my eyes are dry as sand. Thanks for your concern though. 

So I guess you'll deal with it?

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Ionized Crab wrote...

It's funny how the only people saying that Hepler is being attacked because she's female are female posters themselves. No one cares if you're female, people just get annoyed when you shove it in everyones faces.

Which Hepler did.


Totally.

A personal comment to a friend is rubbing it in people's faces.

HOW DARE SHE TRY TO FIND SOME EMPATHY FROM PEOPLE SHE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH HOW DARE SHE!!!!

Please.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 février 2012 - 10:15 .


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Modifié par JohnEpler, 21 février 2012 - 11:20 .


#213
Ionized Crab

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Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Oh boo bloody hoo. Cry me a river will you. "We used to love this company and now I'm going to nerd rage all over their forums because they don't do what I WANT them to do QQ". 

Get over yourself. 

Why should I not be frusterated?

Comparing the writing of Baldurs Gate 2 was Biowares last good game. KOTOR 2 was a buggy mess and was still better written than the first.

#214
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Hepler herself has responded with some fire of her own, Tweeting on Saturday, "I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."



lol....

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Ionized Crab wrote...

It's funny how the only people saying that Hepler is being attacked because she's female are female posters themselves. No one cares if you're female, people just get annoyed when you shove it in everyones faces.

Which Hepler did.


People called her out for being a bad writer. 

She then responded by saying that people are only targetting her because she is female.

People explained that this isn't the case. The issue is her total lack of talent, not her gender.

She continues to make her gender the focus of the argument. 

She's the one who brought her gender into this and made it an issue. My concern is that she is a bad writer, with bad ideas about not just story writing, but about video game design in general. Her idea of a fast forward button in video games would fundamentally ruin the integration of story and game play in video games. 

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I for one would like to represent the fine folks, the secret saviors, the dark heroes of the Internet when I say Hepler deserved the weight against her. We need to stop greasing up the truth that BioWare is all the worse for hiring her. She has weighed down the legacy and integrity of the company with bad writing and forced liberal propaganda. We at Reddit are DISGUSTED for such deliberate buttering of our youth's minds.

Shame on Hepler, she deserved most of what was served to her.

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The Courier wrote...

If you're going to edit my post, delete it entirely and not edit it so that it means something completely different from the original intended argument.


Shameful behavior honestly.

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teh_619 wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Oh boo bloody hoo. Cry me a river will you. "We used to love this company and now I'm going to nerd rage all over their forums because they don't do what I WANT them to do QQ". 

Get over yourself. 

If you want to get all "funny" with my video games, you should get out.


No actually. I'm not going anywhere. I'm not getting "funny". I'm not the one nerd raging and justifying bullying a woman because I don't like what she does. It's you who's doing it, so maybe you should get out. 

No wonder people say that gamers are the worst fans ever. 

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Pinkflu wrote...

Feminism is the greatest civil and human rights movement to ever have existed, and will be the most vital ideology in terms of improving the human condition in the remainder of the twenty-first century.


Agreed. And if men think femnisim is only helpful to women, consider this: in a feminist society, men would have just as good a chance of getting the kids in a custody battle as a woman assuming both parents are fit. As it stands, men are disadvanted. Why? Because of the sexist belief women are better at raising children and should be the ones to do it.

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Ionized Crab wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Oh boo bloody hoo. Cry me a river will you. "We used to love this company and now I'm going to nerd rage all over their forums because they don't do what I WANT them to do QQ". 

Get over yourself. 

Why should I not be frusterated?

Comparing the writing of Baldurs Gate 2 was Biowares last good game. KOTOR 2 was a buggy mess and was still better written than the first.


Kotor 2 wasn't even BioWare.

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Guuuuuuuuuuys, stop poking the trolls :(

Just report them!

#222
Ionized Crab

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Really mods? I get how you're deleting troll arguments, but arguments against Bioware is forbidden?

On the Obsidian forums I can criticize the team and not get my post deleted.

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Good on Bioware for supporting an employee. Other companies should take note.

It's one thing to disagree and dislike someone's work, or what they say. It's another to throw personal attacks, or what someone two pages back posted about hoping she miscarries (you were reports you blood sucking sack of fat loser).

Seriously The Internet, you stay classy.

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Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


So leave the site, and stop buying the games. It's really that simple. 

Why should I have to?

I'm not the other trolls by the way. I'm not saying Hepler deserved this, she didn't.

But I used to love Bioware, so I joined a Bioware forum.

It's not my fault you enjoy their hand-holding RPGs. Tell me child, ever play a CRPG? I thought so.



I never did understand how people could be judged on the types of games they play. You can play a game on HARDCORE GAMER MODE **** YEAH and you're still not cool in the real world. Sorry for not having the same opinion as everyone else =/ Bad me. 

#225
Ionized Crab

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Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Ionized Crab wrote...

SubspaceGirl wrote...

Why join a site and buy the games from a company that you despise and moan about being ****? Do you really not have anything better to do?

BECAUSE WE USED TO LOVE THIS COMPANY

IMAGE A NICE SLICE OF CAKE

NOW IMAGE A GIANT COMES OVER AND STEPS ON THAT CAKE, RUINS IT, DESTROYS IT

THATS BIOWARE FOR US


Oh boo bloody hoo. Cry me a river will you. "We used to love this company and now I'm going to nerd rage all over their forums because they don't do what I WANT them to do QQ". 

Get over yourself. 

Why should I not be frusterated?

Comparing the writing of Baldurs Gate 2 was Biowares last good game. KOTOR 2 was a buggy mess and was still better written than the first.


Kotor 2 wasn't even BioWare.

That's what I'm saying, lrn2readingcomprehension. Obsidian wrote a better story than Bioware with a smaller deadline and George Lucas constantly yelling at them.

The only good part of KOTOR was a the I AM REVAN twist.