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STARKILLER423 wrote...
That is the golden part of this conversation. Have you played the game? No. They could very well be explained in the game. Bioware did say that they are answering all our question and wraping everything up. And there are people that have read the leak (I am NOT one of them) That say that they are explained.
Modifié par mauro2222, 22 février 2012 - 01:20 .
You know, he is right. They never specifically said that they were protheans. It was just implied but left open. I do think that that was the oringially designed look for the protheans yes. But that doesn't change the fact that they never specifically said that they were indeed the protheans. Anyway you can't change it. Getting angry at someone with a perfectly valid point does not make you a badass, nor does it make you more right.mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
Oh yeah, the Protheans wanted to send some random video about some random species being killed.
Sadistic Protheans, they were all sick.
the statues in the vision were from Ilos, they were not showing some random species being killed they were showing Ilos for reasons Vigil already explained.mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
Oh yeah, the Protheans wanted to send some random video about some random species being killed.
Sadistic Protheans, they were all sick.
STARKILLER423 wrote...
You know, he is right. They never specifically said that they were protheans. It was just implied but left open. I do think that that was the oringially designed look for the protheans yes. But that doesn't change the fact that they never specifically said that they were indeed the protheans. Anyway you can't change it. Getting angry at someone with a perfectly valid point does not make you a badass, nor does it make you more right.
Modifié par Cohesion, 22 février 2012 - 01:25 .
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
N7Raider wrote...
the statues in the vision were from Ilos, they were not showing some random species being killed they were showing Ilos for reasons Vigil already explained.mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
Oh yeah, the Protheans wanted to send some random video about some random species being killed.
Sadistic Protheans, they were all sick.
Modifié par mauro2222, 22 février 2012 - 01:26 .
kingsims wrote...
Shale never felt like DLC her character had major choices and influences in Orzammar. I suspect taking the Prothean to the citadel will be like taking shale to Orzammar. And you will probably get tons of dialogue about the keepers, mass relays, structure of the citadel etc.
kidbd15 wrote...
So, if we are to assume that the squid-type beings are the original Protheans, the new DLC character could be the middle link between Prothean and full-blown Collector, a being from one of the evolutionary steps between Prothean and Collector.
Your post just made it seem like you were getting angry. I agree that the statues were what the protheans were supposed to originally look like, but they never specifically stated that. It was speculation since they have never seen the protheans. So what if they were multiple species. Sure its the easy way out but it makes sense. The Roman empire encompassed a huge area with multiple people from different nationalities, but it wasn't called the Multiple People with various Nationalities Empire. It was the Roman Empire because the Romans were the ones conquering. This is just a larger scale with different alien species. But this is all just my opinion on the mattermauro2222 wrote...
STARKILLER423 wrote...
You know, he is right. They never specifically said that they were protheans. It was just implied but left open. I do think that that was the oringially designed look for the protheans yes. But that doesn't change the fact that they never specifically said that they were indeed the protheans. Anyway you can't change it. Getting angry at someone with a perfectly valid point does not make you a badass, nor does it make you more right.
Not angry at all. But they were indeed changed. Maybe not their looks, but... hell, wait for the game.
w/e they're obviously stationarymauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
the statues in the vision were from Ilos, they were not showing some random species being killed they were showing Ilos for reasons Vigil already explained.mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
Oh yeah, the Protheans wanted to send some random video about some random species being killed.
Sadistic Protheans, they were all sick.
They aren't statues...
And if they are, what's the point of sending an emergency beacon with statues of aliens instead of actual images of the genocide.
N7Raider wrote...
w/e they're obviously stationary
N7Raider wrote...
and I just read your explanation for the whole squid face thing, hasn't this been foreshadowed since ME1 with the hanar anyway?
Some people are speculating that he is in the game regardless but the DLC lets you actually recruit him into your squad. Of course that has never been done before so it isn't very probable but it is possible, even if slightly.Leaser Resael wrote...
This... this is just too much. I mean, the WHOLE STORY of ME is based on the Protheans, I don't care what kind of role he has, It doesn't matter, this just should NOT be DLC.
I mean, REALLY? I didn't like ME3 marketting or MP, but I could live with all that, but this is just stupid.
He was planned very early in the story (We knew about this since June), so the "we couldn't make it in time" excuse doesn't work here, this was supposed to be in the game, I really thought they will put him in the game instead of doing this, I see that I was wrong once again.
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
the "statues" on Ilos they're obviously stationary so I just call them statues.mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
w/e they're obviously stationary
I don't know what you meant.N7Raider wrote...
and I just read your explanation for the whole squid face thing, hasn't this been foreshadowed since ME1 with the hanar anyway?
What? The enkindlers? or whatever they are called. How does that affect their looks?
Modifié par N7Raider, 22 février 2012 - 01:39 .
One reason could be that no one knew what the Protheans looked like. But they needed to get people to know what was coming and where to go. So they showed the statues that are unique to Ilos (unless they are else where too) to let people know where to go. They didn't know that the relay leading to Ilos would be lost and could have thought that people would understand that showing the statues on Ilos meant to go to IlosKBomb wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
Ya know what genius why don't you point out to me at what point we were EVER told those were protheans? At what point did any character ever tell us this tidbit of information? I try to have a civil discussion here and of course this is the crap it unfolds into, if anyone's "blind" here it's you, we were never told these were protheans it was never even implied simple as that what part of that can you not understand? Whether it's the statues or the vision doesn't matter for sh!t, we were never told these statues were protheans simple as that. Here's the definition for retcon you obviously need it.
They may not have come out and “told” anyone the statues were of protheans, but it was certainly implied. I have heard the theories that some people have come up with that could be the identity of the statues from anywhere from decoration to prothean gods, so on and so on. Those things are fine. I can understand that they may have statutes around their homeworld that is not reflective of their identity. However, when Shepard has visions from the beacon, it's asinine not to assume that the creatures we see in the visions are not prothean. Why would the visions contain only their “gods” or decoration or whatever else excuse someone can put together. Why would those things be pertinent to the story at all?
Shepard: You're the experts on these things. Why am I having visions of these weird squid-like things?
Liara: Probably because they worshiped them or something.
Shepard: Fine, but why is that relevant to the plot? Why am I not seeing the protheans and their destruction? You know, isn't that kind of the point?
Liara: I don't know Shepard, maybe they wanted you to see how well they throw together landscape art.
Face it, that was the original vision. When Bioware realized they wanted to have a prothean as a character, they thought of something more humanoid in design.
Leaser Resael wrote...
This... this is just too much. I mean, the WHOLE STORY of ME is based on the Protheans, I don't care what kind of role he has, It doesn't matter, this just should NOT be DLC.
I mean, REALLY? I didn't like ME3 marketting or MP, but I could live with all that, but this is just stupid.
He was planned very early in the story (We knew about this since June), so the "we couldn't make it in time" excuse doesn't work here, this was supposed to be in the game, I really thought they will put him in the game instead of doing this, I see that I was wrong once again.
it added next to nothing to the overally story or lore in general. There are far better alternatives to making people pay for the game's most important new squadmate, which BW have done before - make it free, for a start, even if you desperately oppose actually putting him in the game to begin with, it's just a flat out ridiculous notion that anyone would ever think this is a viable business strategy at the very least.
N7Raider wrote...
the "statues" on Ilos they're obviously stationary so I just call them statues.
because if those squid faced ones were in fact protheans than those could be the enkindlers that interfered in the Hanar's evolution, Hanar are the only non bi-pedal species in mass effect, they're big floating squids. Squid faced aliens created squid aliens, which would kinda be a religous thing anyway which would fit cause the hanar worship the protheans.
Modifié par Zatou, 22 février 2012 - 01:46 .
agree on what?mauro2222 wrote...
N7Raider wrote...
the "statues" on Ilos they're obviously stationary so I just call them statues.
because if those squid faced ones were in fact protheans than those could be the enkindlers that interfered in the Hanar's evolution, Hanar are the only non bi-pedal species in mass effect, they're big floating squids. Squid faced aliens created squid aliens, which would kinda be a religous thing anyway which would fit cause the hanar worship the protheans.
So, you agree?
Modifié par N7Raider, 22 février 2012 - 01:54 .
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