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[Rip504]

crackseed wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

that's why EA and Bioware are doing this, because of people like you two with your "then don't buy it" crap.

how about we get it all, and then if you two people want to pay them $10 for including it there in the disc then pay them. isn't that the same thing? the stuff is already in the disc, anyways.

You're missing a point in your anger here - the From Ashes DLC is NOT main mission critical. Bioware has never, and should never, make a DLC required to experience the main plot of a game. The day they do this will be, well - the end of Bioware most likely for many fans [I'd be pretty ticked too, even if I do generally support DLC because it's meant to be OPTIONAL] - so your entire pissy fit is pointless.

I respect that you don't like DLC - and that you wish a character like this would have been part of the main game, but that's not how it is. Regardless, it is optional and it does not detract from the main plot experience. AKA it's optional and if you loathe DLC, you never have to touch it and your game will not be any less for it.

I agree a bit,although his/her game will be less because the lack of available content the consumer was to cheap to buy.
LOL So yes,but it is not Bioware/EA's fault,it is the consumers fault for not understanding supply and demand. If ppl are willing to pay,the companies are willing to sell.

Obviously DLC makes money. Hence most ppl probaly support DLC.
The "few"should never outweigh "the needs of the many"... Lmao
Goodbye-

[TeffexPope]

crackseed wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

that's why EA and Bioware are doing this, because of people like you two with your "then don't buy it" crap.

how about we get it all, and then if you two people want to pay them $10 for including it there in the disc then pay them. isn't that the same thing? the stuff is already in the disc, anyways.

You're missing a point in your anger here - the From Ashes DLC is NOT main mission critical. Bioware has never, and should never, make a DLC required to experience the main plot of a game. The day they do this will be, well - the end of Bioware most likely for many fans [I'd be pretty ticked too, even if I do generally support DLC because it's meant to be OPTIONAL] - so your entire pissy fit is pointless.

I respect that you don't like DLC - and that you wish a character like this would have been part of the main game, but that's not how it is. Regardless, it is optional and it does not detract from the main plot experience. AKA it's optional and if you loathe DLC, you never have to touch it and your game will not be any less for it.

The Arrival was. Not necessary to beat ME2, but is THE reason why ME3 begins the way it does.

[Rip504]

TeffexPope wrote...

crackseed wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

that's why EA and Bioware are doing this, because of people like you two with your "then don't buy it" crap.

how about we get it all, and then if you two people want to pay them $10 for including it there in the disc then pay them. isn't that the same thing? the stuff is already in the disc, anyways.

You're missing a point in your anger here - the From Ashes DLC is NOT main mission critical. Bioware has never, and should never, make a DLC required to experience the main plot of a game. The day they do this will be, well - the end of Bioware most likely for many fans [I'd be pretty ticked too, even if I do generally support DLC because it's meant to be OPTIONAL] - so your entire pissy fit is pointless.

I respect that you don't like DLC - and that you wish a character like this would have been part of the main game, but that's not how it is. Regardless, it is optional and it does not detract from the main plot experience. AKA it's optional and if you loathe DLC, you never have to touch it and your game will not be any less for it.

The Arrival was. Not necessary to beat ME2, but is THE reason why ME3 begins the way it does.

Anyone who didn't play Arrival,it was their choice not to.
It is extra content. You pay extra for extra... Extra cheese 25 cents,extra bacon 50 cents,so why should Bioware give away there extra content for free? Wether it deals with the main plot or not?

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 08:48 .

[VarrenSoldier]

Wow. This is just freaking low EA/Bioware. The last Prothean as DLC, a character who could possibly play a large role in the game.
I pay 60 dollars, I should have everything in the game for 60 dollars. And I wasn't fast enough to pre order a CE.

[TeffexPope]

I don't really understand why they would do it like this anyway. Reviving a Prothean? That is a pretty big event. It's not a story spoiler, no, but should have been in the main game for multiple reasons, one of which being that its completely spoiled that you get a Prothean squad member by making it a DLC. And putting your stamp on this thread so people like me who had no idea about this leak or this Prothean squad member can have something that would be pretty awesome to discover, into something I know weeks before the game is released.

[rumbalumba]

so then i'll just wait for the $60 GOTY edition on December 2012, i guess. this gen the only way to get the FULL game experience, by buying the game after 10 months.

[G3rman]

God please **** a little louder and write longer paragraphs, it really makes you look dissatisfied and sound like a competent person.

Modifié par G3rman, 22 février 2012 - 09:00 .

[DaJe]

LinksOcarina wrote...

A cancer huh?

Piracy is a cancer, because it never goes away and never will. People will always pirate things for whatever justifyable reason.

Fanboys are a cancer. Someone such as you andfor me who are sometimes overly passionate about a game or company that they bemoan when things happen to the said game or company that don't lockstep with how it fits in their minds, or vehemently defend something that may turn into a flaw.

Gamers who feel a sense of pride or entitlement to their opinions are a cancer. Especially ones who have nothing of substance to say and waste our time, like you.

Nope....this is not a cancer. This is business, always has been and always will be. the point of dlc is to give people extra stuff to expand the games enjoyment. Once again extra is the key word. If you truely think this is another case of wardens keep, then go ahead and believe that. In the end you are wasting my time by even talking to you.

Are gamers who present their opinion as customers cancer too?
The business has changed to a large degree but it has not always been like that. I thought ME2 pushed the whole DLC thing way beyond what is acceptable, specially in how DLC disrupted the game flow, instead of adding to it. DA2 was getting completely out of hand with it's exclusive offers and Day1 DLC. Now ME3 is pushing it even further. That just happened within a few years, and there is a clear trend visible.

Not long before we have to pay extra for main story content, and are busier with piecing the damn game together than actually playing it.

And not everyone persues the DLC ripoff. Skyrim still has no DLC, because they intend to work on ADDITIONAL material that has substance after the release, while filling the gap with uptdates and free content. The Witcher 2 had DLC, but it was offered for free. CD Project pretty much just gave the finger to the publisher, because they want their game to be experienced as it was intended.

When a Prothean becomes "optional" and a Jersey Shore meathead like Vega gets dropped on our Shepard as a friend without even giving us the choice then the problems with this practice become even more obvious.

Instead of making sure every mass effect player learns about the lost prothean race, that has been a mysterium and important story aspect in all games, the generic soldier that has nothing to offer to the universe other than being more marketable to action fans is the first choice.
Yeah, it's business, but we don't have to like it, or support it. Both characters should be in the game, because they were both planned into the whole concept.

Just accepting that more and more get's cut from games, defending it with "that's normal, it's not crucial to the main story" is the cancer, if you want to use such harsh words.
It is the consumers who change what works in the industry and it is the developers who care to present their intelectual property as intended.
There are many who don't like the DLC and still buy it. Everyone has to realize it's in their hands.

[Adanu]

The stupid is strong in this thread.

A prothean, while interesting, would *not* play a major role in ME3. Why?

This is a new cycle, with new challenges, and new races. You're fighting 50k years after the fact and the Protheans are long gone. He'd be an asset and a wealth of history, nothing more.

[Tazzmission]

Adanu wrote...

The stupid is strong in this thread.

A prothean, while interesting, would *not* play a major role in ME3. Why?

This is a new cycle, with new challenges, and new races. You're fighting 50k years after the fact and the Protheans are long gone. He'd be an asset and a wealth of history, nothing more.

um did you read the leaked script?because you oviously are wrong on that


i am so tempted right now just to blurt it out but i wont do that to the devs

[finc.loki]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Hi all!

We're happy to confirm that Mass Effect 3: From Ashes DLC will be available at launch for all platforms. For those of you who have purchased the N7 Collector's Edition (including the PC Digital Deluxe Edition), you will get this content at no extra charge. We'll have a lot more details for you later this week! Stay Tuned!

Please tell me/us that we can buy it using a CC in Origin or something, I personally don't like buying Bioware points cause it never matches the points to the actual cost.

I just want to pay the $10 and not sit there with 200 extra points or have to pay $12 to get proper amount of Bioware points to get a DLC that cost $10.

[G3rman]

Tazzmission wrote...

um did you read the leaked script?because you oviously are wrong on that


i am so tempted right now just to blurt it out but i wont do that to the devs

You must have the old script, the new one he isn't a big player at all.  He's just cool to have around, a soldier from the previous cycle.  Not to mention choice conversational banter with Liara.

But otherwise, unimportant.

[Tazzmission]

G3rman wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

um did you read the leaked script?because you oviously are wrong on that


i am so tempted right now just to blurt it out but i wont do that to the devs

You must have the old script, the new one he isn't a big player at all.  He's just cool to have around, a soldier from the previous cycle.  Not to mention choice conversational banter with Liara.

But otherwise, unimportant.

oh really? let me shoot you a pm that way i wont get yelled at by chris or stan

[finc.loki]

crackseed wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

that's why EA and Bioware are doing this, because of people like you two with your "then don't buy it" crap.

how about we get it all, and then if you two people want to pay them $10 for including it there in the disc then pay them. isn't that the same thing? the stuff is already in the disc, anyways.

You're missing a point in your anger here - the From Ashes DLC is NOT main mission critical. Bioware has never, and should never, make a DLC required to experience the main plot of a game. The day they do this will be, well - the end of Bioware most likely for many fans [I'd be pretty ticked too, even if I do generally support DLC because it's meant to be OPTIONAL] - so your entire pissy fit is pointless.

I respect that you don't like DLC - and that you wish a character like this would have been part of the main game, but that's not how it is. Regardless, it is optional and it does not detract from the main plot experience. AKA it's optional and if you loathe DLC, you never have to touch it and your game will not be any less for it.

I think you forget that ME3 starts by the results of what took place in a DLC, so your argument fell flat right there.

I never bought Arrival DLC and have no clue about what happened in it, so I have/had to go to You Tube to see if someone uploaded the ending from it to even have a clue of why Shepard is on trial for killing Batarians.
You know ME2 did not end that way. So yes now we are forced to spend many dollars to even get a clue of what is going on, hence they made DLC a part of the main story.

I also saw a tweet from Mike Gamble that hinted and said "now is a REALLY good time to play all the DLC from ME2", that makes it sound like a lot of DLC content from ME2 is needed to be played through to get an understanding of what is going on in ME3, IE references to something etc, like the WHOLE START OF THE GAME.

This is something that bothers me. Also this leads me to belive that this "from ashes" DLC is actually pretty vital, even though you can finish the game without it, you're missing something good and fairly important and inclusive to the whole story.
I can argue that Tali or Garrus are not needed either, so just cut them out and make them DLC too.

This is a bad thing happening lately, they cut out game content in order to hike up the price of their game in a veil and artificial attempt.
CE $80, standard $60 but you pretty much need "from ashes" so now it cost you $70.
This is really awful IMO. this is selling out the game, DLC with statues, $40 game guides and art books, it seems less and less important about the ACTUAL game.

Look at the difference since how ME1 was sold, to now ME3. ME1 was just ME1, that was it $60.
Now you can spend $870 just to get all related stuff for ME3. It's IMO disgusting.

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

We gamers have not "entitlement" towards a game, but then again, we have invested time and money in the two previous titles and this is needed to get a proper ending, this is why some get a sense of entitlement.
You feel used, you helped start the franchise by supporting it with money and praise, to in the end just be a stepping stone to "better and more money" and the franchise ends up as McDonalds or PG13 for every one type deal.
This is the problem in the gaming industry now, everything is sequels and PG13 Disney type deal that EVERYONE should like and play it.
I mean comments like ME3 is a perfect game to START as a newcomer to the series, I mean HELLO, it's the END of a Trilogy.
Also to say something like that basically nullifies thier OWN previous WORK and installments in that they apparently wasn't needed.

is there any wonder WHY some get upset? And no using the word "entitlement" is wrong, cause it is just and end all be all "get out of jail, we don't need to address the issue comment", it's bogus and false.

Anyways, my pointless two cents. Next time I'll charge 4 cents for my 2 cent comments.

Modifié par finc.loki, 22 février 2012 - 10:08 .

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote...
Anyone who didn't play Arrival,it was their choice not to.
It is extra content. You pay extra for extra... Extra cheese 25 cents,extra bacon 50 cents,so why should Bioware give away there extra content for free? Wether it deals with the main plot or not?

So... a far to short Plot Crucial Mission is now considered "extra content"?

Didn't know that, thank you for pointing that out!

[GuiltySource]

Bioware 6 months ago: There is no Prothy the Prothean.

Lol yeah right.

[Rip504]

finc.loki wrote...

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

Nope,but you are the one tearing out the pages,not Bioware.

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote...

finc.loki wrote...

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

Nope,but you are the one tearing out the pages,not Bioware.

Nope, it's actually them ripping out pages from the middle of the book, selling you the ripped book and telling you that you can get the pages back when you fork over more money...

You would burn every Bookstore that acted like that but it's okay here?

Modifié par Selor Kiith, 22 février 2012 - 10:16 .

[GRIML0CK122]

oh wow more leaks

[GuiltySource]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

finc.loki wrote...

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

Nope,but you are the one tearing out the pages,not Bioware.

Nope, it's actually them ripping out pages from the middle of the book, selling you the ripped book and telling you that you can get the pages back when you fork over more money...

Don't worry if it's anything like the Sebastian DLC from DA2, it's probably not worth picking up anyway.

[Amikae]

How unfair is this, they sell the game, I buy a normal edition and they cut out content. When did the gaming industry sink so far? This is insulting. I buy the game and on day one I have to pay more to get the whole package. I can't believe this.

[Rip504]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Rip504 wrote...
Anyone who didn't play Arrival,it was their choice not to.
It is extra content. You pay extra for extra... Extra cheese 25 cents,extra bacon 50 cents,so why should Bioware give away there extra content for free? Wether it deals with the main plot or not?

So... a far to short Plot Crucial Mission is now considered "extra content"?

Didn't know that, thank you for pointing that out!

No problem. Appearently some people are having trouble grasping this concept.
It was made as extra content to help bridge the gap between ME2 & 3.
Yes it does deal with the plot. Does that mean it was not made separately? An extra item of content created by Bioware/EA deserves to be bought and sold,not given away for free months later. Just because it deals with the plot.
What sense does that even make?

The reason you would buy dlc like arrival or LotSB,should be similiar to the reason you buy ME1,2,or 3,
You want it for x and y reasons. It was never meant to be part of ME2,but rather extra content that helped bridge the gap while being meaningful to a point,not just random pinacle station bs. We the fans asked for and wanted it. They gave it to us and I am happy with that.

[Rip504]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

finc.loki wrote...

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

Nope,but you are the one tearing out the pages,not Bioware.

Nope, it's actually them ripping out pages from the middle of the book, selling you the ripped book and telling you that you can get the pages back when you fork over more money...

You would burn every Bookstore that acted like that but it's okay here?

No it's nothing like that. LoL
Nothing is missing from ME3. It's extra content. Period.

It would be like them charging for an additional separate book that had something to do with the book you purchased. You would fully expect this. Why not here?

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 10:26 .

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote...
[...]

I should have added a [Sarcasm] Tag...

And this DLC is NOT Extra Content... It is a goddamn DAY ONE DLC...
That means it is simply CUT from the main game and sold seperately!

Modifié par Selor Kiith, 22 février 2012 - 10:25 .

[Wulfram]

Amikae wrote...

How unfair is this, they sell the game, I buy a normal edition and they cut out content. When did the gaming industry sink so far? This is insulting. I buy the game and on day one I have to pay more to get the whole package. I can't believe this.

So don't buy the game on day one.  I'm not going to, because of this.

After all, by Christmas I'll likely be able to get game + DLC for less than just the game costs now.

Modifié par Wulfram, 22 février 2012 - 10:27 .