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[Tazzmission]

Amikae wrote...

How unfair is this, they sell the game, I buy a normal edition and they cut out content. When did the gaming industry sink so far? This is insulting. I buy the game and on day one I have to pay more to get the whole package. I can't believe this.

:sigh: seriously just shut up now.


let me guess just because you failed to get a collectors edition you just think the dlc should be free right?


i paid a aditional 20 dollars for this game and you dont hear me crying


i swear sometimes i do question the inteligence of this board and its posters

[Rip504]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Rip504 wrote...
[...]

I should have added a [Sarcasm] Tag...

And this DLC is NOT Extra Content... It is a goddamn DAY ONE DLC...
That means it is simply CUT from the main game and sold seperately!

Lmao sarcasm...
You fully feel as if Bioware took something from you game and are now charging you for it. Read your post. It's not sarcasm when you fully mean what you are saying.

Baseless assumptions. If it was cut it is no longer part of ME3,therefor considered extra content.
You pay for extra items,no matter how they come. It wasn't free to make,didn't work as part of ME3,and now they have to pay to advertise and put it on the market place, Etc.

They have every right to charge for this dlc.

[Slash_luke]

Rip504: i don´t agree. If it´s crucial for the plot (and specifically Arrival IS) then it should be
a) in the end of the original game (ME2)
at the beginning of subsequent game (ME3)
c) or as a free DLC for ME2

I don´t think that EA/Bioware´s approach in this case is fair to the players (aka customers).
btw: I bought Arrival anyway, but only because I didn´t have any other choice (except for piracy) and I want to know >>"what the hell is going on"<< in the beginning of ME3.

[Amikae]

So wait, you paid 20 dollars more for a collectors edition and instead of getting something... with collectors value, you get digital content. I didn't buy the CE, because it wasn't good, not because I failed.

[Tazzmission]

Amikae wrote...

So wait, you paid 20 dollars more for a collectors edition and instead of getting something... with collectors value, you get digital content. I didn't buy the CE, because it wasn't good, not because I failed.

i bought it mainly because i get more bang for my buck heck it gives 3 or 4 squad members alt armor so yea to me thats 10 bucks well spent .


i already knew the prothean would be a dlc and you know how? because if it wasnt this whole board would go awol on how people who got the ce was treated special and all that crying and moaning.

heck wait 3 or 4 months and that same armor will be up as dlc for the same price so i dont see how thats unfair when it comes to the price.

if 10 dollars is expensive for you than i mean this in the nicest way possible to everyone who says this isnt right maybe you should just quit gaming as a whole because dlc is here to stay weather we like it or not.


dont get me wrong i have some gripes regarding any form of dlc but i dont go out and say omg its being milked to death or omg so and so sold out to whoever owns them now

i can flat out tell you right now the most money im spending on me3 dlc is at least 50 - 100 dollars mainly for story if there is any  and nothing more since everything will clock in around like 800 bucks if you include the figures and stuff.

Modifié par Tazzmission, 22 février 2012 - 10:41 .

[Rip504]

Slash_luke wrote...

Rip504: i don´t agree. If it´s crucial for the plot (and specifically Arrival IS) then it should be
a) in the end of the original game (ME2)
at the beginning of subsequent game (ME3)
c) or as a free DLC for ME2

I don´t think that EA/Bioware´s approach in this case is fair to the players (aka customers).
btw: I bought Arrival anyway, but only because I didn´t have any other choice (except for piracy) and I want to know >>"what the hell is going on"<< in the beginning of ME3.

You are on the forums... You know what "the hell" is going on.

You bought the DLC to play and exp. it yourself.

Extra,content,extra playtime,extra story,extra work,marketing etc.

They have the right to charge you extra for something extra. That you wish to play and they created.

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 10:46 .

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote..
Lmao sarcasm...
You fully feel as if Bioware took something from you game and are now charging you for it. Read your post. It's not sarcasm when you fully mean what you are saying.

Seeing as I have one less squadmember from DAY ONE, it is true...

Baseless assumptions. If it was cut it is no longer part of ME3,therefor considered extra content.
You pay for extra items,no matter how they come. It wasn't free to make,didn't work as part of ME3,and now they have to pay to advertise and put it on the market place, Etc.

They have every right to charge for this dlc.

As I said, so you are agreeing that an Author or a Bookstore just rips out a Chapter or two from a book that may or may not be crucial to the main plot, then sells the book but also the ripped Chapters from Release Day on?

To be clear, I have nothing against DLCs as some kind of "Miniature AddOns", when it is clear that it actually was conceived and build AFTER the game was released and in fact is an extra effort for us when it is not crucial for the complete understanding of what the heck is going on.
It is okay if it is a full blown AddOn...

What I am not okay with is the fact that they sell something that was worked on in Conjunction with the main game and it was simply decided that they could make more money if they cut it from the game and sell it seperately from day one!

It was not "extra effort", it surely was not a "Last Minute Addition", it was build and worked on as part of the Main Game and it should be treated as such and it should be included in the already inflated prices they have for the Main Game itself!

By your logic it would be perfectly okay if they would start selling Vega, Tali, Garrus and whoever on day one as seperate DLCs for 10 Dollar each?

[Rip504]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Rip504 wrote..
Lmao sarcasm...
You fully feel as if Bioware took something from you game and are now charging you for it. Read your post. It's not sarcasm when you fully mean what you are saying.

Seeing as I have one less squadmember from DAY ONE, it is true...

Baseless assumptions. If it was cut it is no longer part of ME3,therefor considered extra content.
You pay for extra items,no matter how they come. It wasn't free to make,didn't work as part of ME3,and now they have to pay to advertise and put it on the market place, Etc.

They have every right to charge for this dlc.

As I said, so you are agreeing that an Author or a Bookstore just rips out a Chapter or two from a book that may or may not be crucial to the main plot, then sells the book but also the ripped Chapters from Release Day on?

To be clear, I have nothing against DLCs as some kind of "Miniature AddOns", when it is clear that it actually was conceived and build AFTER the game was released and in fact is an extra effort for us when it is not crucial for the complete understanding of what the heck is going on.
It is okay if it is a full blown AddOn...

What I am not okay with is the fact that they sell something that was worked on in Conjunction with the main game and it was simply decided that they could make more money if they cut it from the game and sell it seperately from day one!

It was not "extra effort", it surely was not a "Last Minute Addition", it was build and worked on as part of the Main Game and it should be treated as such and it should be included in the already inflated prices they have for the Main Game itself!

By your logic it would be perfectly okay if they would start selling Vega, Tali, Garrus and whoever on day one as seperate DLCs for 10 Dollar each?

LoL are you serious?

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote...

LoL are you serious?

It would be nice of you if you would actually adress what I have written and what I asked you instead of a thinly veiled attack on my person...

[Tazzmission]

[quote]Selor Kiith wrote...

[quote]Rip504 wrote..
Lmao sarcasm...
You fully feel as if Bioware took something from you game and are now charging you for it. Read your post. It's not sarcasm when you fully mean what you are saying.
[/quote]

Seeing as I have one less squadmember from DAY ONE, it is true...

[quote]
Baseless assumptions. If it was cut it is no longer part of ME3,therefor considered extra content.
You pay for extra items,no matter how they come. It wasn't free to make,didn't work as part of ME3,and now they have to pay to advertise and put it on the market place, Etc.

They have every right to charge for this dlc.[/quote]

As I said, so you are agreeing that an Author or a Bookstore just rips out a Chapter or two from a book that may or may not be crucial to the main plot, then sells the book but also the ripped Chapters from Release Day on?

To be clear, I have nothing against DLCs as some kind of "Miniature AddOns", when it is clear that it actually was conceived and build AFTER the game was released and in fact is an extra effort for us when it is not crucial for the complete understanding of what the heck is going on.
It is okay if it is a full blown AddOn...

What I am not okay with is the fact that they sell something that was worked on in Conjunction with the main game and it was simply decided that they could make more money if they cut it from the game and sell it seperately from day one!

It was not "extra effort", it surely was not a "Last Minute Addition", it was build and worked on as part of the Main Game and it should be treated as such and it should be included in the already inflated prices they have for the Main Game itself!

By your logic it would be perfectly okay if they would start selling Vega, Tali, Garrus and whoever on day one as seperate DLCs for 10 Dollar each?
[/quote/]

[Amikae]

Tazzmission wrote...

Amikae wrote...

So wait, you paid 20 dollars more for a collectors edition and instead of getting something... with collectors value, you get digital content. I didn't buy the CE, because it wasn't good, not because I failed.

i bought it mainly because i get more bang for my buck heck it gives 3 or 4 squad members alt armor so yea to me thats 10 bucks well spent .


i already knew the prothean would be a dlc and you know how? because if it wasnt this whole board would go awol on how people who got the ce was treated special and all that crying and moaning.

heck wait 3 or 4 months and that same armor will be up as dlc for the same price so i dont see how thats unfair when it comes to the price.

if 10 dollars is expensive for you than i mean this in the nicest way possible to everyone who says this isnt right maybe you should just quit gaming as a whole because dlc is here to stay weather we like it or not.


dont get me wrong i have some gripes regarding any form of dlc but i dont go out and say omg its being milked to death or omg so and so sold out to whoever owns them now

i can flat out tell you right now the most money im spending on me3 dlc is at least 50 - 100 dollars mainly for story if there is any  and nothing more since everything will clock in around like 800 bucks if you include the figures and stuff.

No, 10 dollars are not the problem, the problem is, that they cut out major chunks of the game, that 10 years ago would have been IN THE GAME and instead of making a proper CE, they put these chunks in the CE. Like I would be happy with such a CE. And so they force YOU to pay MORE, to get a package, that should have been included in the normal version of the game. Sorry, but that is not cool. 

When DLC's came about, I didn't like it. I preffered normal Expansions. But I was ok with having extra content released months after the game release. Since then, the whole DLC concept has gone to the ****ter. With DLC's on day one, cutting major content from the game. That is sick and if you don't get why, then you're probably new to gaming.

[Rip504]

No attack on your person. Sorry but by my logic,and ripped out chapters? Really lol
Sorry.

I understand what you are saying about it being cut and then sold, It's cheap but is still considered extra content and if you want it you have to pay for it.

Nothing was ripped out. They can not give away the content for free,it costs money,
It was created and now is being sold. That's logic.

The whole book thing and Tali and Garrus idk how you got what you got from what I said,but i feel no need to clear it up.

It's separate. Batteries sold what? OO

[DifferentD17]

Are some of you really defending day one DLC, and then telling people to shut up if they don't agree? Why are you on a forum if you don't want to discuss it? This DLC is horrible. A permanent party member for $10 when they took so many other great characters out. It's BS that they can sell someone like Kasumi and Zaheed when they didn't do as much work with them. You can't even have conversations with them. This is like bringing out a map pack and saying it's not essential to the multiplayer. No one is "essential" to the story except Shepard. They proved that by taking so many people out.

[Beefcake9000]

Rip504 wrote...

Nothing was ripped out. They can not give away the content for free,it costs money,
It was created and now is being sold. That's logic.

Yeah, it's being sold - in addition to the rest of the game it was cut from.

I hate Day 1 DLC, and I think the sheer amount for ME3 is ridiculous, but if it was just cosmetic/weapon stuff, I wouldn't care so much. But a character like this, with the potential to impact on the lore/plot is too far. If i don't own this DLC, I'll feel like I'm missing a chunk of the game - that's the difference between this DLC and '1234 Shotgun Skin' or whetever.

I feel like I'm forced to buy the DLC or the N7 edition in order to get the 'full' game, and that's just plain wrong.

[ttchip]

Beefcake9000 wrote...
Yeah, it's being sold - in addition to the rest of the game it was cut from.

I hate Day 1 DLC, and I think the sheer amount for ME3 is ridiculous, but if it was just cosmetic/weapon stuff, I wouldn't care so much. But a character like this, with the potential to impact on the lore/plot is too far. If i don't own this DLC, I'll feel like I'm missing a chunk of the game - that's the difference between this DLC and '1234 Shotgun Skin' or whetever.

I feel like I'm forced to buy the DLC or the N7 edition in order to get the 'full' game, and that's just plain wrong.

Just based on him being DLC, you can assume that he won't have an impact on the plot whatsoever (which I happen to find quite... uhh... sad, I guess).

Modifié par ttchip, 22 février 2012 - 11:15 .

[Rip504]

Beefcake9000 wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Nothing was ripped out. They can not give away the content for free,it costs money,
It was created and now is being sold. That's logic.

Yeah, it's being sold - in addition to the rest of the game it was cut from.

I hate Day 1 DLC, and I think the sheer amount for ME3 is ridiculous, but if it was just cosmetic/weapon stuff, I wouldn't care so much. But a character like this, with the potential to impact on the lore/plot is too far. If i don't own this DLC, I'll feel like I'm missing a chunk of the game - that's the difference between this DLC and '1234 Shotgun Skin' or whetever.

I feel like I'm forced to buy the DLC or the N7 edition in order to get the 'full' game, and that's just plain wrong.

Obviously I disagree.
I don't think it "is just plain wrong".
It's extra,It doesn't need to be part ME3,but deff adds to it. Hence the 10 dollars.
If you choose not to pay for it,you are the one responsible for missing out on it. Not Bioware. They put it out there for all consumers,not just CE owners or none of us. It's there when it didn't have to be. Without DLC we may have never seen this squadmate. It could of just ended up as an internet rumor somewhere...

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 11:17 .

[DifferentD17]

EA: "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL, THIS HURTS YOU, YOU WILL GIVE US EXTRA MONEY"

[Amikae]

ttchip wrote...

Beefcake9000 wrote...
Yeah, it's being sold - in addition to the rest of the game it was cut from.

I hate Day 1 DLC, and I think the sheer amount for ME3 is ridiculous, but if it was just cosmetic/weapon stuff, I wouldn't care so much. But a character like this, with the potential to impact on the lore/plot is too far. If i don't own this DLC, I'll feel like I'm missing a chunk of the game - that's the difference between this DLC and '1234 Shotgun Skin' or whetever.

I feel like I'm forced to buy the DLC or the N7 edition in order to get the 'full' game, and that's just plain wrong.

Just based on him being DLC, you can assume that he won't have an impact on the plot whatsoever (which I happen to find quite... uhh... sad, I guess).

I don't think that's what he assumed...

[Selor Kiith]

Rip504 wrote...

No attack on your person. Sorry but by my logic,and ripped out chapters? Really lol
Sorry.

I understand what you are saying about it being cut and then sold, It's cheap but is still considered extra content and if you want it you have to pay for it.

Nothing was ripped out. They can not give away the content for free,it costs money,
It was created and now is being sold. That's logic.

The whole book thing and Tali and Garrus idk how you got what you got from what I said,but i feel no need to clear it up.

It's separate. Batteries sold what? OO

You don't have the DLC, you miss story...
You don't have the Chapters, you miss story...

Both was made with the Main Medium, not seperate... simply cut and sold... not content specifically made to enhance the Main Medium, but parts of it simply relabeled... that is not okay...

I give them money for the Medium, I pay for it, I pay for the whole thing not 'Main Medium sans Chapter 3-6'.
If they want to do this, they should charge less for the main medium but they don't I have to pay the full price for only 2/3 of the content.

You say it's extra content and okay to pay for it... so you can say Garrus is extra content too although he was build with the main medium as was this DLC and charge you 10 Dollar for him as they do exactly with this DLC.

Sure you can play without him but you will miss story, sure it may be crucial plot wise like Arrival... but it's extra content... so you should be okay with it, when they charge you for him.

What they did with this DLC and this Squadmember they can do with every Squadmember for the same reasons.
Where do you draw the line? Where is it no longer okay? When do you realize that this kind of behaviour will only lead to far worse incarnations than this "harmless" Day One DLC Idea?

[finc.loki]

Rip504 wrote...

finc.loki wrote...

If I don't fork out the extra $10 for the From ashes DLC I will always feel like some "pages was ripped out of my book" so to speak. There is no argument against that.

Nope,but you are the one tearing out the pages,not Bioware.

You know that doesn't make any sense at all, since the DLC doesn't COME with the game.
Hence I am not the one "ripping out the pages/content".
I have to pay extra to get the full experice, IE the "ripped out pages", could I finish the game and the book with out that particular chapter, of course. Would the experience be missing something, obviously.
See this "DLC" is something that is available day one to everyone, which if they wanted they could have just made a part of the original game for the original price.

Stop being such a sycophant and maybe you'd understand this.

As I said it is truly indefenisble.

[Envor44]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Are some of you really defending day one DLC, and then telling people to shut up if they don't agree? Why are you on a forum if you don't want to discuss it? This DLC is horrible. A permanent party member for $10 when they took so many other great characters out. It's BS that they can sell someone like Kasumi and Zaheed when they didn't do as much work with them. You can't even have conversations with them. This is like bringing out a map pack and saying it's not essential to the multiplayer. No one is "essential" to the story except Shepard. They proved that by taking so many people out.

I couldn't agree with you more, and it not just some people but a lot of narrow-minded people really defending day one DLC. Of course, its normal for people having different opinion but by the look of this community its just a single group of people throwing fire to anyone who doesn't share the same idea. I have seen leaked script, and everything used to be "essential" in main story until some money grubbing got funny idea about how they should split something cool into extra content" for extra cash. People being fooled as usual not a big surprise anyway.

Modifié par Envor44, 22 février 2012 - 11:23 .

[DifferentD17]

Rip504 wrote...

Obviously I disagree.
I don't think it "is just plain wrong".
It's extra,It doesn't need to be part ME3,but deff adds to it. Hence the 10 dollars.
If you choose not to pay for it,you are the one responsible for missing out on it. Not Bioware. They put it out there for all consumers,not just CE owners or none of us. It's there when it didn't have to be. Without DLC we may have never seen this squadmate. It could of just ended upas an internet rumor somewhere...

Half of the side missions in ME don't NEED to be there should we be paying extra for them too?

[CG50]

It better not be like kasumi or zaeed, I hope he can actualy talk! Although i got collectors edition so i can't complain, i find it strange that this is the character they choose for dlc. I mean a random character yes but i would have thought this one would of had more significance in the main game compared to zaeed kasumi or even sebastian in DAII.

[Rip504]

Garrus is in ME1 ME2 ME3...
The newest squadmate has never even been heard of in the last 50,000 years...

Garrus would have been cut,not added. The newest squadmate is being added...

And if garrus or Tali were unimportant and not fan favs,they may have been cut,and if that were to happen and I wanted them... I would buy them. Garrus and Tali would be top selling DLC day one.

But these players are known to us,fans favs,and would have been officially cut. This is content that may have been cut from ME3 and is now being added as extra content,which it is both new and extra. Garrus Tali and our newest member are completely different situations.

Modifié par Rip504, 22 février 2012 - 11:28 .

[Rip504]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Obviously I disagree.
I don't think it "is just plain wrong".
It's extra,It doesn't need to be part ME3,but deff adds to it. Hence the 10 dollars.
If you choose not to pay for it,you are the one responsible for missing out on it. Not Bioware. They put it out there for all consumers,not just CE owners or none of us. It's there when it didn't have to be. Without DLC we may have never seen this squadmate. It could of just ended upas an internet rumor somewhere...

Half of the side missions in ME don't NEED to be there should we be paying extra for them too?

Pointless?
PPL will buy a squadmate... They will probaly buy the side missions,who knows?

Side missions were promised as part of ME2,the newest Squadmate was never promised In ME3.

"NEED" Isn't my point.