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[kingsims]

Id compare Shale to prothy in which she is very important in DA:O. You get to learn a lot off lore about the Thiag's, Golem constructs, why they were created, who built them and you even get to bring her along to meet her creator in Orzammar. So id very much rate prothy as a shale in which you miss out on a lot off lore, plus the fact she was a unique race is very big bonus like prothy (you get a unique perspective).

Try playing without shale in DA:O and see how much stuff you miss out on. Btw all the DLC's in ME2 are considered cannon events so they happened regardless, and you ll get more dialouge if you played them. Also yes Kasumi has a big role as does Zaeed in ME3.

A lot of people on this forum like Kasumi and Zaeed even though they are DLC characters. So i can see why people are upset at day one Squadmate DLC that is not included with a new game to download free of charge for pre-order.

Modifié par kingsims, 22 février 2012 - 01:38 .

[Wulfram]

didymos1120 wrote...

Obro wrote...

Why not just sell us the ending as DLC? I mean you did it in ME2.

This is complete nonsense.  You really, honestly think the Suicide Mission, the goal of the entire game, wasn't the ending? 

If anything, I'd have thought Arrival was more the start of ME3 than the ending of ME2.

[finc.loki]

didymos1120 wrote...

Obro wrote...

Why not just sell us the ending as DLC? I mean you did it in ME2.

This is complete nonsense.  You really, honestly think the Suicide Mission, the goal of the entire game, wasn't the ending? 

Well it wasn't the ending since Arrival DLC is what ME3 beginning is based on.
Yes they don't start ME3 based on how ME2 actually ended, they start it based on a damn DLC.

I would have NO clue at all what is going on in the start of the game unless I checked out videos about Arrival on you tube.
Just another money grab to make people pay more so they feel they have a proper understanding of ME3 start.

[WizenSlinky0]

Eh, if they hadn't attached it to the collectors edition I would probably be more bothered by the fact it's separated from the main game for an additional cost. But I had the option to get the CE and decided I didn't want or need any of the stuff that came with it. The fact I can buy the character separately for less than I would have paid for all the stuff I didn't want with it, is rather good.

Call me for rage duty when characters as full and fleshed out as shale are not included with ANY copy of the game despite being day 1 DLC, and we'll talk about protests and boycotts and such.

[chengthao]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Eh, if they hadn't attached it to the collectors edition I would probably be more bothered by the fact it's separated from the main game for an additional cost. But I had the option to get the CE and decided I didn't want or need any of the stuff that came with it. The fact I can buy the character separately for less than I would have paid for all the stuff I didn't want with it, is rather good.

Call me for rage duty when characters as full and fleshed out as shale are not included with ANY copy of the game despite being day 1 DLC, and we'll talk about protests and boycotts and such.

i wonder if this Prothean squadmate will be more like Shale, or "useless" like Zaeed and Kasumi

[Eire Icon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

So people that don't have enough money, or don't want the collectors edition, they don't get the full game? Yeah there will be alot of lore, about the main story, because the Protheans are a huge part of the story, the reapers would've been here sooner if it wasn't for the Protheans. Shepard would've have known about reapers, the keepers would've opened the relay alot sooner.

If they don't have the money then no they don't get it. Thats life I'm afraid. They do get the full game just not the add-on character or mission.

[Obro]

didymos1120 wrote...

Obro wrote...

Why not just sell us the ending as DLC? I mean you did it in ME2.

This is complete nonsense.  You really, honestly think the Suicide Mission, the goal of the entire game, wasn't the ending? 

the ending of arival ties DIRECTLY to the begining of ME3. It didn't have to be in the main game if they gave out the DLC as free DLC to tie it in. But they didn't. They charged for a corridor shooting sequence and no choices what so ever.

[Eire Icon]

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

[StableZaner]

The full story, with best ending should be on offer to ANYONE that buys the game, in any form. It is a complete disgrace to take away from loyal fans and consumers to reduce the experience in any way. That being said we don't know yet until we play the game.

[chengthao]

Eire Icon wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

not really when you consider ME3 starts based off of Arrival and not the SM

[WizenSlinky0]

Saying the prothean is required for lore purposes is kinda like saying every player is being screwed because the books aren't included with the games. There's a lot of additional knowledge to be had in them, sure, but they are in no way critical to the plot of the game itself.

Same with the prothean. I'm sure he'll have a ton of lore and interesting things to say. But in the end I doubt it will have anything to do with helping to defeat the reapers. It'll just be extra knowledge which is kinda cool and interesting but totally irrelevant to the plot of the game.

[Obro]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Saying the prothean is required for lore purposes is kinda like saying every player is being screwed because the books aren't included with the games. There's a lot of additional knowledge to be had in them, sure, but they are in no way critical to the plot of the game itself.

Same with the prothean. I'm sure he'll have a ton of lore and interesting things to say. But in the end I doubt it will have anything to do with helping to defeat the reapers. It'll just be extra knowledge which is kinda cool and interesting but totally irrelevant to the plot of the game.

Dude the entire first game revolvs aroun prothean artifacts and vision the entire galactic society doesn't stop talking about the damn protheans and in the second game we raid the exprothean space station and everything is based on "their" technology so how the **** can you even say that prothean squad member is irrelevant? No seriously? 

[Eire Icon]

So Arrival is mandatory ?.....................................



[quote]finc.loki wrote...

[quote]Eire Icon wrote...
There is no DLC that is mandetory or even close to mandetory - there is a difference between wanting something and needing something
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The Arrival is pretty much mandatory for the understanding as of why Shepard is on Earth and was trialed e.g. the complete beginning of the game...

This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory

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But you don't have it.................................?


[quote]finc.loki wrote....

I would have NO clue at all what is going on in the start of the game unless I checked out videos about Arrival on you tube.
Just another money grab to make people pay more so they feel they have a proper understanding of ME3 start.

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Does that not make it, I dunno, not mandatory?

Modifié par Eire Icon, 22 février 2012 - 02:22 .

[Mich-cz]

I think it's very bad decision to restrict such a character to CE edition in time where CE is sold out in many places. Please, put it to standard edition for first-time buyers and make it DLC for buyers of discounted version instead. Or is it your intention to annoy loyal gamers? I am seriously thinking about delaying my pucharse and buying ME3 only when its price lowers to 10 bucks or something.

But I think it is even worse if this prothean is useless (story-wise) as Zaeed or Kasumi - heck, 50.000 old character found in stasis with all the memories all the knowledge - it should be center-point of the story..

Modifié par Mich-cz, 22 février 2012 - 02:20 .

[Eire Icon]

chengthao wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

not really when you consider ME3 starts based off of Arrival and not the SM

Do you honestly think that Shepard is back on Earth purely due to what happened in Arrival? - I don't

[Selor Kiith]

Eire Icon wrote...

Does that not make it, I dunno, not mandatory?

Do you sometimes think about what you write or say?
Of course it is still mandatory!

We shouldn't have to rely on 3rd Party Sources to understand what is going on!

[KyreneZA]

Thank the goddess it's DLC. I didn't want him/her/it as a squadmate anyway, and found the premise for an alive Prothean ridiculous. It would be a talking codex entry like Tali.

As long as my Shepards get to Mars and get the plans for the McGuffin/Deus Ex machine without relying on Prothy, I'm gold.

Also, I feel kinda sorry for poor Prothy, as only Shepard and Shiala can understand it. It's forced to only talk to Shepard ever, and considering how eloquent Shepard's been in the past, it's a blessing RP-wise if in my games Prothy never existed.

[Eire Icon]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

Does that not make it, I dunno, not mandatory?

Do you sometimes think about what you write or say?
Of course it is still mandatory!

We shouldn't have to rely on 3rd Party Sources to understand what is going on!

Do you know what mandatory means ?

EDIT: and yes you should have to rely on third party sources if your too stingy to pay $10

Modifié par Eire Icon, 22 février 2012 - 02:24 .

[didymos1120]

Kyrene wrote...

It would be a talking codex entry like Tali.

Only if written that way.

[chengthao]

Eire Icon wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

not really when you consider ME3 starts based off of Arrival and not the SM

Do you honestly think that Shepard is back on Earth purely due to what happened in Arrival? - I don't

did you play the demo? did you play Arrival?

[Eire Icon]

chengthao wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

not really when you consider ME3 starts based off of Arrival and not the SM

Do you honestly think that Shepard is back on Earth purely due to what happened in Arrival? - I don't

did you play the demo? did you play Arrival?

Yes and Yes - both numerous times

[Obro]

Eire Icon wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
This is also something that upsets me greatly.

I have this ODD understanding that DLC is suppose to be 'optional' yet they made Arrival mandatory if you want the "real ending of ME2", quite frankly it's disgusting.
They actually start the whole game based on actions and events taking place in a NON mandatory DLC.

Complete and utter nonsense

not really when you consider ME3 starts based off of Arrival and not the SM

Do you honestly think that Shepard is back on Earth purely due to what happened in Arrival? - I don't

Anderson says "**** you have done would make you court marshalled" now what exactly did Shepard do in the past that would provoke such a reaction? Siding with Cerberus? He was dead they written him off. What else is there? Please tell me.