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[JaegerBane]

Justicar wrote...

ALSO, the DLC only gives you right to him as a squaddie, HE APPEARS IN GAME ALREADY WITHOUT DLC AND FULFILLS IMPORTANT THINGS ETC

Uhhh....

Given how important such a distinction is....

Where did you find that out?

[wolfsite]

Funny thing is if they kept this part exclusive to the Collector's Edition people would still complain because only those who managed to get the copy at pre-order would have access to what they would deem "an important part of lore".


This is a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.

[Faceless Minion]

Cosmo G. Spacely wrote...

I don't get it, people are complaining about spending 800 points on content that was included in the CE edition? Or am I missing something?

It's because it's not just some minor piece of content, like weapons, or visuals.  It is a character that is overwhelmingly important to the overall story of Mass Effect.  It's a Prothean, for crying out loud, the race that has been steadily brought up as mysterious and vital to the timeline of the series.  Shepherd would not be Shepherd without them, as a Prothean relay is what caused him to learn about the reapers in the first place.

So no, this isn't just some minor thing, it's a vital bit of the game's storyline that was made during development time, and torn away just to milk people for cash.  It's reprehensible and it's well beyond the bounds of acceptable.

[AxholeRose]

Man, I already spent $80 on the CE, i dont mind spending a bit more for DLCs if they are worth it... maybe this one will come with some epic missions as well, so they had to "leave it out" of the main game. Seriously I would rather boycott something more worthwhile like letting us bind more keys than just one action key. That actually affects my gaming experience, which I paid for.

[TwwlX]

Kuei_Jin wrote...

The boycott will go as well as the Modern Warfare 2 boycott, as in everyone here will be playing Mass Effect 3 on release no matter what they wrote.

It certainly worked for Battlefield 3. And, no. I won't be purchasing it nor will other people that have prinicples.

[RiouHotaru]

Faceless Minion wrote...

Cosmo G. Spacely wrote...

I don't get it, people are complaining about spending 800 points on content that was included in the CE edition? Or am I missing something?

It's because it's not just some minor piece of content, like weapons, or visuals.  It is a character that is overwhelmingly important to the overall story of Mass Effect.  It's a Prothean, for crying out loud, the race that has been steadily brought up as mysterious and vital to the timeline of the series.  Shepherd would not be Shepherd without them, as a Prothean relay is what caused him to learn about the reapers in the first place.

So no, this isn't just some minor thing, it's a vital bit of the game's storyline that was made during development time, and torn away just to milk people for cash.  It's reprehensible and it's well beyond the bounds of acceptable.

Why is he important?  And don't say "Because he's a Prothean", that doesn't mean anything.  Do you KNOW he has vital information?  For a fact?

[loungeshep]

Wait, how does anyone know he's important? Did someone play the game and travel back in time?

Still not seeing how doing business is unethical or immoral (also fairly sure people don't know what those words mean.)

[havoc373]

Justicar wrote...

ALSO, the DLC only gives you right to him as a squaddie, HE APPEARS IN GAME ALREADY WITHOUT DLC AND FULFILLS IMPORTANT THINGS ETC

source?

[Justicar]

JaegerBane wrote...

Uhhh....

Given how important such a distinction is....

Where did you find that out?

A source that read the script.

And saying the script is outdated is bull****, it's only been tweaked.

[Galenwolf]

TwwlX wrote...

I really enjoyed the demo immensely but this takes nickel and diming to a whole new level.

TotalBiscuit agrees www.youtube.com/watch

First they pull the free game promotion from Origin (BF3), now this ****? This has EA written all over it. They're milking every franchise they can. So long BioWare!

I agree with total biscuit, last bioware game I ever buy and i've been a big bioware  since the days of Baldur's Gate.

Anything that is cosmetic is fine, but not this.

[Crackseed]

While I respect and applaud that people will stand up and answer with their wallets, I do think it's a bit silly as well. This is no different then Shale back in DA:O - A optional [and admittedly very interesting character] who can add flavor to your storyline but who is not required to experience the entirety of the game.

DLC has essentially replaced Expansion packs. It's quicker to make and costs a fair amount less, though of course the trade-off tends to be there's less content to be had. It's the way the market is going - could it be done better? I think so, but given that From Ashes was designed to be optional and is not a required purchase to enjoy the main plot of the game, I personally think boycotting ME3 over it is a bit nearsighted.

This is entirely my opinion though and I mean no disrespect to those who are choosing to not purchase the game.

[Sluggs201]

makalathbonagin wrote...

bw made the game, €A is selling it
simple as that, stop bashing bw for absolutely everything

So because they made the game there allowed to take content out and sell it to us in DLC? No that is a bad business model and very shady practices. To give exlcusive content to CE buyers only and telling me to spend $10 on it is a slap in the face This character is HUGE in lore and is not some throw away.

I am sorry but I have to boycott this game until hopefully changes are made. I would be fine with what they have done in the past which was give an incentive to people who buy it new by offering a one time code to people who bought it new.

This isn't even dlc this is finished content that they took away from me who was going to buy the standard edition and telling me to spend $10 if you want the full game. Sorry but I have some standards to what is and is not acceptable and this is clearly not.

If changes are ammended and they allow all people who buy it new to get this character for free then I would be fine with that. But until then I can't in good conscience buy it.

Modifié par Sluggs201, 22 février 2012 - 06:25 .

[Mr.Trilby]

loungeshep wrote...

Wait, how does anyone know he's important? Did someone play the game and travel back in time?

Still not seeing how doing business is unethical or immoral (also fairly sure people don't know what those words mean.)

Take your head out of your arse. 

[AboveTheClouds]

It's absolutely ridiculous that something as tied into the lore of the game as a Prothean squadmate was cut from the full game and put up as day 1 dlc. I love the Mass Effect series and all but now I'm probably going to pass up on buying the game on day 1 unless EA retracts this.

Like a lot of other posters it appears that have also watched TotalBiscuits video I completly agree with what he said. This is just plain and blatant money grabbing from EA and to all those people who are saying 'If you don't like it, don't buy it" that's not the point! The point is that DLC should not be something so vital to a games lore and storyline when it comes out on the release date.

If it was simply a cosmetic item or a weapon that doesn't vastly overpower what's already in the game then fine.The same goes for any story content that comes out months after the game release and was not cut from the main game, that's a nice bonus to have. I just find it horrendous that they cut a fully intergrated squadmate out of the game just to make some more cash from their fanbase.

Modifié par MysticStormx, 22 février 2012 - 06:24 .

[wolfsite]

Galenwolf wrote...

TwwlX wrote...

I really enjoyed the demo immensely but this takes nickel and diming to a whole new level.

TotalBiscuit agrees www.youtube.com/watch

First they pull the free game promotion from Origin (BF3), now this ****? This has EA written all over it. They're milking every franchise they can. So long BioWare!

I agree with total biscuit, last bioware game I ever buy and i've been a big bioware  since the days of Baldur's Gate.

Anything that is cosmetic is fine, but not this.

Then you might as well boycott Capcom, WB Games, THQ, Square Enix, 2K, Activision etc.

All of those companies have done day 1 DLC..... so it would be hyporcitical of peopel to boycott one but continue to support the others.

[Kyblik]

well, as BioWare are huge part of EVIL what EA definitely is, its both of them who are to be blamed and spit at.

i have ME3 CE preordered yet, but i will cancel it, because i dont want to be part of this ****y greedy-money-making machine anymore!!! at least from now on, coz i play and will play SW:TOR and other already released games.. this one is just a huge miss step..

well done BioWare, you just lost another customer who is buying your games, who will still love your old games, but will never ever buy anything new from you.

one advice though, GET RID OF EA, SPLIT FROM THEM AND BE THAT GREAT COMPANY YOU ONCE USED TO BE!!!!

[Crackseed]

Galenwolf wrote...

TwwlX wrote...

I really enjoyed the demo immensely but this takes nickel and diming to a whole new level.

TotalBiscuit agrees www.youtube.com/watch

First they pull the free game promotion from Origin (BF3), now this ****? This has EA written all over it. They're milking every franchise they can. So long BioWare!

I agree with total biscuit, last bioware game I ever buy and i've been a big bioware  since the days of Baldur's Gate.

Anything that is cosmetic is fine, but not this.

Technically this is cosmetic - it is not required for you to enjoy Mass Effect 3 in it's entirely - it is an optional character experience. If you bought DA:O and then paid for Shale, you have ALREADY done the exact thing you're claiming you won't do.

[Pattonesque]

You guys. You guys.

Listen.

It's totally OK not to want to buy this game. Your money, your choice. It's really none of my business whether or not this influences your purchasing decision.

You've got to meet me halfway on something, though. Your decision to boycott a game because of a piece of extra content is not the moral equivalent to standing up against, say, hunger, or racism. You can't keep couching your responses in such absurd terms. You know why? Once you've gone all-in on something like a video game (and video games are important and weighty topics worth caring about, but they fall somewhat low on the ladder of cosmic import), you won't have anywhere else to go once you're talking about something with actual weight. People are going to dismiss your impassioned plea about income inequality or the fight to cure cancer because you used the same intensity and passion when you took your very brave stand against downloadable content. For a video game.

Basically, before you post, read it over. If the tone reminds you of Henry V's St. Crispin's day speech, chill out. If it wouldn't seem tonally out of place coming from Ryan Gosling in the rain during "The Notebook", chill out. You're not leading a revolution. You're making a decision on ten bucks worth of content.

[Quiron-br]

Dirty move, Bioware.

[Turran]

loungeshep wrote...

Wait, how does anyone know he's important? Did someone play the game and travel back in time?

Still not seeing how doing business is unethical or immoral (also fairly sure people don't know what those words mean.)

It will be a major part of the story, I think you need to scratch up on your Mass Effect story.

And I am really really against this. I feel this was a huge mistake made by someone to make this choice.

Modifié par Turran, 22 février 2012 - 06:28 .

[Justicar]

Video gamers pretentiously think that they deserve content free or something.

[GalacticTHOR]

mybudgee wrote...

People, quit being so cheap. Sell your old ipod or something...jeez

It is not that I can't afford it. It is that Bioware have changed their business model. In this past they have taken care of those that have brought the game new. So what do the regular fans get!? CE content needs to be aesthetic! Artbooks. fine. Robotdog fine. But an integral character to the games lore? This is not fair. They have made a complete game and then broken it to make money. If it is after release they have all the rights to charge but blocking this content from dedicated fans is not right, to their loyal fans. It is not a matter of being cheap.

[Kuei_Jin]

TwwlX wrote...

Kuei_Jin wrote...

The boycott will go as well as the Modern Warfare 2 boycott, as in everyone here will be playing Mass Effect 3 on release no matter what they wrote.

It certainly worked for Battlefield 3. And, no. I won't be purchasing it nor will other people that have prinicples.

Did not work for MW2 though, after seeing the MW2 boycott I don't trust gaming boycotts ever again. Also totalbiscuit has no idea how DLC are made, I rather have an extra squadmate then none at all.

[loungeshep]

Mr.Trilby wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Wait, how does anyone know he's important? Did someone play the game and travel back in time?

Still not seeing how doing business is unethical or immoral (also fairly sure people don't know what those words mean.)

Take your head out of your arse. 

WEll that's a help. Wow. No really. Wow.  SUch teeming intelligence there, boy you showed me a thing or two.

Reported.

[SkyPlus]

Justicar wrote...

Video gamers pretentiously think that they deserve content free or something.

Content.... thats been made..... before the games even ****ing realeased.