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[kelton312]

The bioware defense force is strong in this thread.

[RiouHotaru]

The Prothean is exactly like Shale. Flavor text.

[Rapamaha1]

Rapamaha ---------- Bioware
(Affection lost -20)

[JRCHOharry]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

This is too far.

I'm not buying ME3. They are ripping us off. They are charging full price for an unfinished product, then charging extra for that unfinished content

I'm going to pirate it. 100% content for 0% of the price.

It's high time developers started blaming THEMSELVES for piracy.

Watch out guys. We're dealing with a badass over here!

[Aedan333]

Kuei_Jin wrote...

Aedan333 wrote...

Kuei_Jin wrote...

The boycott will go as well as the Modern Warfare 2 boycott, as in everyone here will be playing Mass Effect 3 on release no matter what they wrote.

True I have played and own every Bioware game (aside from the neverwinter games) and I will not miss out on this game but my preorder has been canceled because of this. Trying to squeeze out that extra 10 dollars from me made me feel like hey you know what I can wait a few months for the price to go down. To be honest ill buy the game at 30 dollars and get the dlc too but hey that 10 extra dollars just lost them 20 from me.

Wow what a boycott, you are going to play a game anyway. See my point stands, boycotts fail
Also is this your view or totalbiscuit's view? People need to think for themselves and not follow blindly.

I dont know who that is as i only read the first and last page of the forum at the time as it all seemed to be the same. I never said I was boycotting fool just that I refuse to buy the game at full price and there money grabbing trick backfired on me losing them my money.

[robmokron]

JRCHOharry wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

This is too far.

I'm not buying ME3. They are ripping us off. They are charging full price for an unfinished product, then charging extra for that unfinished content

I'm going to pirate it. 100% content for 0% of the price.

It's high time developers started blaming THEMSELVES for piracy.

Watch out guys. We're dealing with a badass over here!

he scares me =(

[Kuei_Jin]

Also the only reason BF3 worked is because they were facing MW3. I see nothing in the first half of the year coming close to ME3.

[Justicar]

kelton312 wrote...

The bioware defense force is strong in this thread.

So is the Anti-BioWare Naz* Party.

It's ironic really how you don't like people defending BioWare yet you're a "fan", apparently.

Modifié par Justicar, 22 février 2012 - 06:43 .

[Thoro123]

The boycott/uproar worked for Battlefield 3.

I hope that it will work here too.

Modifié par Thoro123, 22 février 2012 - 06:43 .

[Bad King]

Kuei_Jin wrote...

Why not boycott every other company with day 1 dlc? Stop being up totalbiscuit's arse.

Plenty of companies don't engage in this sort of thing, even large companies such as Bethesda.

[Thoth_Amon]

wolfsite wrote...

Considering how they milk TF2 players ya they are not a good example.

Hahaha, right.  Free to play games sure do milk customers.

[burr beer]

I would suggest everyone that has an issue with this to flood the twitters of Casey Hudson, Silverman, Gamble, anyone involved in production or marketing of the game and asking why the DLC isn't free for people who buy the game new.

Arguing with people on the forum won't get this issue anywhere, taking it to the people who have control over this will.

I have my CE pre-ordered already, but if Bioware is willing to stoop to these levels to sell content that should be in the main game on the first day, I will always think twice about purchasing games from them.

Modifié par burr beer, 22 février 2012 - 06:45 .

[Cobra5]

Thoro123 wrote...

They should just sell the full game for 60€ rather than selling the game in pieces.

I have nothing against DLC per se, but when you take away a part of the game before launch, and sell it for extra moneys it's just wrong.

Because this is what happened:
1. They made a game.
2. They cut a part of the game.
3. They sell the rest of the game for full price.
4. If you want the full game THAT THEY FINISHED WELL BEFORE THE LAUNCH, you must bay 10 big ones extra.


Release all the DLC you want, but make it as EXTRA CONTENT after the launch, not PART OF THE GAME before the launch.

1. They made a game (That costed more then their previous games to make)
2. They cut a part of the game (leaving the original chunk still bigger then their previous games)
3. They sell the rest of the game for full price (Because they would've had to raise it to over full price to cover development costs)
4. If you want the full game THAT THEY FINISHED BEFORE THE LAUNCH, you must pay 10 big ones extra (because they decided it'd be better to let you decide to pay $70 or not for the full game, rather then pulling the price up for everyone to cover the extra dev costs)

What difference does it make if they make it before or after launch? Either you pay $70 for the "full" content now or later.

[JaegerBane]

Justicar wrote...

TotalBiscuit is a perfect example of entertaining, pretentious YouTuber.

Sort of.

On the one hand, I do actually agree with him about the morality of removing elements of a product purely to sell seperately. Its not right and its downright cynical.

On the other hand, I dislike all this 'I WILL LOSE ALL SELF RESPECT IF I BUY THIS GAME' stuff. For one thing, it makes an important issue sound like the ramblings of a nutter and increases the likelihood that it won't be taken seriously. For another, its worth about as much as the paper its written on. A few players boycotting this is not going to do anything - if its going to work, it needs everyone threatening a boycott to stick with it, and frankly, I don't believe half of the hyperbole on this forum, so imagine what Bioware/EA think.

I also dislike his attitude with regards to what should and shouldn't be in a Collector's Edition. As far as I'm concerned, it should be as simple as this: You Pays Your Money and You Takes Your Choice. If you want big guns and extra gubbins and you're willing to pay, fine. Perhaps not in a MP game, but in SP, there is no 'borderline'.

Personally, I'm just glad I plumped for the CE. Its exactly stuff like this that makes me want to buy special editions in the first place.

[Gerudan]

Well, any normal consumer would simply stop buying from a company with such bad business habits. Imagine if you had to pay like 10 extra bugs because the normal version of like Dance with Dragons had an important chapter cut out or a movie had some important scenes cut out and you had to buy them for extra cash.

This is nothing else than the try, to bring the price of the game up to the costs of a CE over time. I will buy ME 3 just to see the ending of it all (and I better not have to buy a DLC to see an ending), but after that I will stop buying Bioware games, if this continues. EA is pressing and ruining Bioware step by step and will close the studio as soon as the games don't sell anymore, because they've lost most the old fans.

I can only hope, that the players of Bioware games are smarter than the COD kiddies who buy every ****, regardless of how expensive it is.

[wolfsite]

Thoth_Amon wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

Considering how they milk TF2 players ya they are not a good example.

Hahaha, right.  Free to play games sure do milk customers.

You obviously haven't been in the store.

and before you say that is optinal content.  So is what is being offered here... only you get a lot more value for this DLC then for what you get in the Man Store.

Modifié par wolfsite, 22 février 2012 - 06:44 .

[Jona.R]

Kuei_Jin wrote...

Why not boycott every other company with day 1 dlc? Stop being up totalbiscuit's arse.

Because I dont play egoshooter and normally dont deal with companys that try to force DLC down my throat

[Justicar]

Thoth_Amon wrote...

Hahaha, right.  Free to play games sure do milk customers.

Latent costs.

They get more money from the store than they ever did selling it at full price.

Modifié par Justicar, 22 février 2012 - 06:44 .

[Theory75]

Just wow. Talk about Bioware fanboyism..
This isn't about being "up totalbiscuit's arse", but rather about the fact that cutting stuff off the game and selling it as a day 1 dlc is just wrong and offensive.

[Marionetten]

Justicar wrote...

It's ironic really how you don't like people defending BioWare yet you're a "fan", apparently.

We're fans of their games. Not their suits.

Modifié par Marionetten, 22 février 2012 - 06:45 .

[kelton312]

Justicar wrote...

kelton312 wrote...

The bioware defense force is strong in this thread.

So is the Anti-BioWare Naz* Party.

It's ironic really how you don't like people defending BioWare yet you're a "fan", apparently.

So you enjoy bioware/ea nickle and diming you for every cent that you have for content that should be in the 60$ retail game? I sure don't, just glad I am on the PC and have the option to opt out of giving bioware any cash until it is priced legitimately. 

[loungeshep]

Beefcake9000 wrote...

I pre-ordered the Digital N7 edition before I knew about this. I felt a little dirty about it, more so now. I'm not  a big fan of Day 1 DLC, cosmetic or otherwise, but I' ve previously bought the Collectors Editions of ME1 & 2 and wanted to complete the set, so to speak. Even so, the sheer amount of DLC on offer seemed pretty ridculous.

But this? This just takes the cake. If this was just a 'generic soldier squadmate' DLC I don't think people would be getting so pissy. This character, if you're a fan of the series,
since ME1, ME2, the DLCs, the books etc etc, is kind of a big deal.

This
isn't another Zaaed or Kasumi. I loved
those characters, but I can see how you can play the game without them
present. This 'optional' character on the other hand, has major lore
implications and you would expect - a signifcant impact on ME3. At least he should, because otherwise, what the hell are the writers thinking?

I really don't see how what may be the last
surviving Prothean could not be considered important enough to be
included as standard. I guess I'll find out when I get the game, because
as a fan of the series, I don't want to miss out on this addition to ME
lore. So I'm not cancelling my order, hell, I'd ordered anyway without being aware of this.

But I find this a terrible, terrible move by Bioware/EA. It feels like a real kick in the quads to those of us who have invested significant time and money into this franchise. A LIVING PROTHEAN IS NOT TRIVIAL. It sure as hell shouldn't be considered optional. And that's before you consider the ethics of cutting content completed before launch to be sold seperately.

I cannot comprehend how anyone could defend or agree with their decision to do this. Maybe it is their 'right' to do it, but that doesn't make it right. It's a crappy way to treat loyal fans and customers and doesn't make me inclined to buy future BW/EA products.

Yes. A prothean squadmate is not a trivial matter. IT is important because we've been led to believe there are no Protheans except Collectors.  BUt how do we know that he isn't part of the game, and the DLC just makes him a Squadmate?

I mean yeah paying 9.99 for some mb of code is lame. So is spending 9.99 for an ebook or an album. 
But that's just business.

DLC should be 99 cents imo.

But boycotting and throwing a fit and not buying the game at all is pointless, again I M O. Just buy the game and not the DLC.

Right or wrong, it's just business though.  And if anyone gets the blame it should be EA not Bioware.

[TwwlX]

wolfsite wrote...

Kuei_Jin wrote...

TwwlX wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

Then you might as well boycott Capcom, WB Games, THQ, Square Enix, 2K, Activision etc.

All of those companies have done day 1 DLC..... so it would be hyporcitical of peopel to boycott one but continue to support the others.

And what makes you think that i have bought any games from these publishers in the recent years?
Not every developer/publisher ****s over their user base with these kind of business practices. Look at Valve for example. They know how treat their consumers properly.

Valve are a totally different studio compared to rest of the gaming world where realities don't exist thanks to steam money. I wouldn't use them as an example.

Considering how they milk TF2 players ya they are not a good example.

How are they "milking" their player base? All of the items in TF2 can be acquired through trading, crafting and drops. Baseless accusation is baseless. Valve is different because it choses to be different by not ****ing over their consumers like EA and numerous othe publishers are doing. They're successful for a reason. It's going to take a lot more than ****ty copy of Steam (Origin) to compete with them. And EA is proving with their terrible business practices that they're inccapable of competing with them.

Modifié par TwwlX, 22 février 2012 - 06:47 .

[Duncaaaaaan]

JRCHOharry wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

This is too far.

I'm not buying ME3. They are ripping us off. They are charging full price for an unfinished product, then charging extra for that unfinished content

I'm going to pirate it. 100% content for 0% of the price.

It's high time developers started blaming THEMSELVES for piracy.

Watch out guys. We're dealing with a badass over here!

I'm not doing this to be badass. Sounds like you're jealous you don't know how to pirate games.

I'm doing this, because If there's one way for a consumer to get a message across, it is to SPEAK WITH THEIR WALLET.

I'm going to finish playing this game, because I need closure. I played ME1, and ME2, I want to see ME3 through.