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[El Ejcovero]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Seriously so much complaining about stupid DLC! It's not a big deal. There is so much exageration here it's unbelievable!

You can't say the Prothean should be in the game from the start. There is nothing wrong with day 1 DLC because in the end it's all optional content.. I'd rather BioWare allow me to purchase it day 1 rather then day 30.. I don't get why some people just can't grasp the word "optional".

Many people have no idea how much of an impact this DLC will have on the game... and lets me honnest.. it's DLC so that means not much. Prothean basically = Kasumi released day 1.

Also, for people saying "Well why not take more out of the game!? What do we really pay 60$ for?" You pay 60$ for Mass Effect 3. The game, because the rest is ADD ONS! Mass Effect 3 is fully enjoyable and completable WITHOUT them. And don't say "Well why not take more out of the game and charge it as DLC" This is one of the dumbest things ever, and not an valid excuse/argument. They won't take anything out because everything that is there is needed and it's what is most important to the game. The rest they sell as extra DLC because its really NOT NEEDED.

Also, many people (myself included) are getting the N7 edition.. we're paying extra for it and it comes with this DLC. So don't act like you have to pay extra while other people get it free. Everyone is paying for it.. when I saw the N7 edition video that said "Spoiler DLC squadmate" I bought it.. I paid extra for an extra character... I didn't complain.

I love how when BioWare says "ME3 N7 CE will include bonus spoiler DLC character"
everyone goes "Yay!! Awesome.. let's buy the CE!" I saw no complaining. But then when BioWare says "Good news! For those who didn't get the N7 CE, where doing you a favor by releasing the bonus DLC character as DLC so you can purchase it too if you please!"  then everyone goes "Wait WTF!! F*** you BioWare!! Day 1 DLC!!?? You guys suck! Pre order canceled!!"

I mean really for the last time ITS OPTIONAL CONTENT THAT IS NOT REQUIRE TO COMPLETE AND ENJOY MASS EFFECT 3!!!


It's no different then to buy a DVD.. or pay a little extra to get the Special Edition that includes a "SPECIAL FEATURES" disc.

... or buying a product that says "batteries not included" (actually this is worse because you can't use the product without paying more for batteries)

.... or buying a printer that doesn't come with ink, or a printer cable.

.... buying a computer that doesn't come with an anti-virus, only a trial (the computer is still fully usable only you might want an anti-virus.. if you do, buy one)
 
.... buying a camera that doesn't come with an SD card

I work in a retail store so I can name you lots... this isn't any different.. so stop complaining.. Buy it, or don't. It doesn't have to complicated.

The principle is what matters here, day one DLC, especially content that could affect the entire plot of the game, is unacceptable and unethical.
And who told you selling a product requiring batteries with batteries not included was acceptable? Or buying a printer with no ink in it? Last time I went to Fry's they had ink in the product and sold me extra ink, completely acceptable. Even buying a computer with no antivirus is unacceptable (why Macs started selling better and why Microsoft released it's Security Essentials). Now buying a camera with no SD card is comparable to buying armor or weapons as DLC in your game, comparing it to what they are actually doing would be there is no internal memory in the camera, only way to use it is to plug in external memory, or you have to buy internal memory (not even an SD card). Day one DLC is content cut out of the main product to be sold seperately. Therefore this is unacceptable and immoral.

[Mclouvins]

piemanz wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

The bulk of the consumers who will buy the game and were already going to buy the game will never even realize this controversy existed.

Which kind of makes it worse. I had no idea about this until today as i've been purposely avoiding anything ME related for months.

If you go to the Origin store and look at the DD edition it says nothing about an additional squadmate...

Lot's of people are going to fire up their game on launch day, and be presented with a choice of a prothean squadmate for $10 and then the ****'s really going to hit the fan, I guarantee it.

It does as part of the N7 arsenal part friend.

[Draconis6666]

piemanz wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

The bulk of the consumers who will buy the game and were already going to buy the game will never even realize this controversy existed.

Which kind of makes it worse. I had no idea about this until today as i've been purposely avoiding anything ME related for months.

If you go to the Origin store and look at the DD edition it says nothing about an additional squadmate...

Lot's of people are going to fire up their game on launch day, and be presented with a choice of a prothean squadmate for $10 and then the ****'s really going to hit the fan, I guarantee it.

No its not, most of them will just buy it or not and say nothing about it. The vast majority of people who buy games never post on forums or read about games they just buy them play them pay for additional stuff or dont pay for it and go about their lives.

[Aargh12]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
MAIN CHARACTERS WILL NOT BE DLC!!!!

Just don't be surprised. It's because of people like you, who say DLCs are optional, gaming is becoming, well, s**t. Games are getting simpler, shorter, they are cut and sold in pieces and they even can add a monthly subsciption for a game. But that's OK, cause it's optional, right? Who cares, if the only way to experience game as a whole is to buy tons of DLCs.
And your analogy with buying camera with SD card is flawed - all cameras have built in memory (and most have sd cards included). Not to mention the fact, that sdcards are used because they're easy to carry and can be switched between differend devices.

MAIN CHARACTERS PROBABLY WILL NEVER BE DLC!! THE PROTHEAN IS  NOT A ******* MAIN CHARACTER!
HE'S A LITTLE SIDE CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE WILL FIND "COOL" BUT ISN'T IMPORTANT TO THE STORY!

The script proves quite otherwise. I don't even want to write how Prothean is important to whole Mass Effect world. 

YOU GUYS ARE MAD BECAUSE BIOWARE PUT THIS REALLY COOL CHARACTER AS DLC? WELL BIOWARE DIDN'T DESIGN/NEED HIM FOR THE GAME.. SO HE IS DLC BECAUSE HE'S COOL, PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE HIM AND SO THEY SELL IT AS OPTIONAL DLC! BUT HE IS IN NO WAY NEEDED! YOUR MAD BECAUSE BIOWARE IS SMART... SORRY BUT JUST BECAUSE A CHARACTER IS COOL DOESN'T MEAN HE CAN'T BE DLC... SORRY ZAEED SUCKED BUT NOT ALL DLC CHARACTERS HAVE TO SUCK.. BIOWARE WANTS TO MAKE MONEY... I SAY HEY ABOUT TIME THEY MAKE A COOL DLC CHARACTER THAT I ACTUALLY WANT TO BUY!! WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD DON'T ACT LIKE THEY'RE STEALING FROM YOU, OR THAT YOUR NOT GETTING A FULL ME3 EXPERIENCE WITHOUT HIM.
Phewf!! Back to lower case!

Sebastian in DA2 was also said to be optional, but in fact he was rather important to the story (not to mention his importance in a sequel). I don't want to spoil anything here, though.

Modifié par Aargh12, 22 février 2012 - 09:46 .

[Theory75]

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released....So no, you can´t use those as comparison points.

Modifié par Theory75, 22 février 2012 - 09:39 .

[Daywalker315]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

so let me get this straight


less than $60 - used, no MP, not the full game

$60 - no Prothean, not the full game

$70-$80 - most likely the FULL game

$90-$120 - FULL game with EXTRA content

so is $80 the new $60? ROFL.
and $90 is the new $80? oh god.

It's actually something like $800 to get the "full" game if you want to buy garbage figurines to get DLC that should be in the main game.

That $850 thing is ludicrous. People will always spin something to suit their idiotic arguments. That's counting a $210 headset, $80 mouse, $60 controller, etc., that all give the SAME MP gun unlock. I think any sane person understands you can't add it all up to say you have to spend $850 to get it all. And what's worse, people act like they have to spend $210 for DLC. No, you spend $210 on a headset and get DLC as a thank you/incentive to buy now rather than wait and think about it til after launch (when you're less likely to buy it because the ME3 excitement will have worn off, meaning less excited to buy N7 headset). People can sure make some preposterous arguments and sadly they think they're perfectly logical.

[El Ejcovero]

piemanz wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

The bulk of the consumers who will buy the game and were already going to buy the game will never even realize this controversy existed.

Which kind of makes it worse. I had no idea about this until today as i've been purposely avoiding anything ME related for months.

If you go to the Origin store and look at the DD edition it says nothing about an additional squadmate...

Lot's of people are going to fire up their game on launch day, and be presented with a choice of a prothean squadmate for $10 and then the ****'s really going to hit the fan, I guarantee it.

Which is why this is a scam, they hide this and we find out a couple weeks before release, which is why we are making a loud noise so people know.

[RiouHotaru]

Theory75 wrote...

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released.

Hahaha, you really believe that, don't you?

DLC is often developed alongside the main game.  It's just not always FINISHED when the rest of the game is done.

[Draconis6666]

El Ejcovero wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Seriously so much complaining about stupid DLC! It's not a big deal. There is so much exageration here it's unbelievable!

You can't say the Prothean should be in the game from the start. There is nothing wrong with day 1 DLC because in the end it's all optional content.. I'd rather BioWare allow me to purchase it day 1 rather then day 30.. I don't get why some people just can't grasp the word "optional".

Many people have no idea how much of an impact this DLC will have on the game... and lets me honnest.. it's DLC so that means not much. Prothean basically = Kasumi released day 1.

Also, for people saying "Well why not take more out of the game!? What do we really pay 60$ for?" You pay 60$ for Mass Effect 3. The game, because the rest is ADD ONS! Mass Effect 3 is fully enjoyable and completable WITHOUT them. And don't say "Well why not take more out of the game and charge it as DLC" This is one of the dumbest things ever, and not an valid excuse/argument. They won't take anything out because everything that is there is needed and it's what is most important to the game. The rest they sell as extra DLC because its really NOT NEEDED.

Also, many people (myself included) are getting the N7 edition.. we're paying extra for it and it comes with this DLC. So don't act like you have to pay extra while other people get it free. Everyone is paying for it.. when I saw the N7 edition video that said "Spoiler DLC squadmate" I bought it.. I paid extra for an extra character... I didn't complain.

I love how when BioWare says "ME3 N7 CE will include bonus spoiler DLC character"
everyone goes "Yay!! Awesome.. let's buy the CE!" I saw no complaining. But then when BioWare says "Good news! For those who didn't get the N7 CE, where doing you a favor by releasing the bonus DLC character as DLC so you can purchase it too if you please!"  then everyone goes "Wait WTF!! F*** you BioWare!! Day 1 DLC!!?? You guys suck! Pre order canceled!!"

I mean really for the last time ITS OPTIONAL CONTENT THAT IS NOT REQUIRE TO COMPLETE AND ENJOY MASS EFFECT 3!!!


It's no different then to buy a DVD.. or pay a little extra to get the Special Edition that includes a "SPECIAL FEATURES" disc.

... or buying a product that says "batteries not included" (actually this is worse because you can't use the product without paying more for batteries)

.... or buying a printer that doesn't come with ink, or a printer cable.

.... buying a computer that doesn't come with an anti-virus, only a trial (the computer is still fully usable only you might want an anti-virus.. if you do, buy one)
 
.... buying a camera that doesn't come with an SD card

I work in a retail store so I can name you lots... this isn't any different.. so stop complaining.. Buy it, or don't. It doesn't have to complicated.

The principle is what matters here, day one DLC, especially content that could affect the entire plot of the game, is unacceptable and unethical.
And who told you selling a product requiring batteries with batteries not included was acceptable? Or buying a printer with no ink in it? Last time I went to Fry's they had ink in the product and sold me extra ink, completely acceptable. Even buying a computer with no antivirus is unacceptable (why Macs started selling better and why Microsoft released it's Security Essentials). Now buying a camera with no SD card is comparable to buying armor or weapons as DLC in your game, comparing it to what they are actually doing would be there is no internal memory in the camera, only way to use it is to plug in external memory, or you have to buy internal memory (not even an SD card). Day one DLC is content cut out of the main product to be sold seperately. Therefore this is unacceptable and immoral.

No its not, even if it is sometimes it is not always and making generalizations doesnt help your argument at all just to put that out there.

[rumbalumba]

http://www.eurogamer...l-us-what-to-do


oh yeaaaahhh...

Modifié par rumbalumba, 22 février 2012 - 09:41 .

[Alek the Great]

This is bullcrap, I tolerated the multitude of exclusive pre-order dlc but this has gone too far. Its like If legion was made a dlc character in ME2. This is a horrible business practice and needs to stop. Bioware deserves any flak they get from this.

[Draconis6666]

El Ejcovero wrote...

Which is why this is a scam, they hide this and we find out a couple weeks before release, which is why we are making a loud noise so people know.

Except it wasnt hidden people knew months ago.

[Draconis6666]

Theory75 wrote...

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released....So no, you can´t use those as comparison points.

Kasumi was complet enough at launch that she has voice files and alot of other stuff for the main portions of the game already on the disc

[Mclouvins]

El Ejcovero wrote...

The principle is what matters here, day one DLC, especially content that could affect the entire plot of the game, is unacceptable and unethical.
And who told you selling a product requiring batteries with batteries not included was acceptable? Or buying a printer with no ink in it? Last time I went to Fry's they had ink in the product and sold me extra ink, completely acceptable. Even buying a computer with no antivirus is unacceptable (why Macs started selling better and why Microsoft released it's Security Essentials). Now buying a camera with no SD card is comparable to buying armor or weapons as DLC in your game, comparing it to what they are actually doing would be there is no internal memory in the camera, only way to use it is to plug in external memory, or you have to buy internal memory (not even an SD card). Day one DLC is content cut out of the main product to be sold seperately. Therefore this is unacceptable and immoral.

This kind of evangelizing needs to stop. This is not a moral arguement it is a fiscal one.

[piemanz]

Mclouvins wrote...

It does as part of the N7 arsenal part friend.

This is the full description on my Origin store page....

Take Earth back with the exclusive N7 Warfare Gear, which includes the N7 Defender Armor, N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle, and M55 Argus Assault Rifle and Origin Exclusive AT12 Raider Shotgun.  Shrug off enemy fire with the N7 Defender Armor and its amplified shields then drop the opposition with high caliber fire from the N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle.  When the enemy has overwhelming numbers bring the M55 Argus Assault Rifle into battle and unleash rapid-fire bursts to even the odds.  Pre-order today to unleash this devastating arsenal.

N7 Defender Armor:
Improved shields and health. Survive even the most punishing of battles and withstand sustained enemy fire.
Increased ammo capacity.  Additional ammunition compartments ensure you are always battle-ready.
Amplified weapon damage.  Built-in power cells provide an additional punch to weapon fire.

N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle:
Deliver two rounds per shot with deadly accuracy. 
Stop the opposition dead in their tracks with superior high caliber rounds.

M55 Argus Assault Rifle:
Unleash a triple burst of rounds, effective for taking down enemies at close and long range.

AT12 Raider Shotgun
Large pellet spread ensures maximum coverage for close-range targets.
Designed for superior rapid fire, optimizing the recovery time between shots.

Mass Effect 3 plunges you into an all-out galactic war to take Earth back from a nearly unstoppable foe – and how you fight that war is entirely up to you. Groundbreaking interactive storytelling drives the heart-pounding action in which each decision you make could have devastating and deadly consequences. You are Commander Shepard, the only one who can save Earth from annihilation. But you are not alone. At your side is a team of elite, battle-hardened soldiers ready for your command. Flank enemies with your squad or take them down lone wolf. Use cover or go in guns blazing. Unleash tactical assaults from a distance or go toe-to-toe with enemies using devastating melee assaults and the deadly omniblade.

KEY FEATURES

• Play Your Way – Choose a fast-paced cinematic experience or delve into a deeper, more choice-driven narrative. Either way, intense combat propels the action as you fight to unite a war-torn galaxy against a common enemy.

• A Rich, Branching Story — Interactive storytelling delivers an experience unlike any other, with multiple outcomes determined by your choices. Mass Effect 3 will redefine what you know about emotionally engaging story.

• Unleash a Customizable Arsenal — Build your character and squad with dozens of unique weapons and abilities, each with powerful upgrades and modifications.

• class-Based Co-operative Multiplayer Missions — Fight the war alongside your friends in four-player co-op missions. Choose from a variety of races and classes and combine your skills to overcome impossible odds. Your success can have an impact on the outcome of your single-player experience.

• Adrenaline-Pumping Gameplay — Feel every bullet impact, roll into cover, and unleash devastating heavy weapons in an intense and pulse-pounding action-shooter game.

• Ruthless and Intelligent Enemies — Battle merciless enemies that will consistently challenge your best combat tactics and put you on the edge of your seat.

Get the ultimate Mass Effect 3 experience with the N7 Deluxe Edition! This limited package includes:
• Digital commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.

• 70-page Digital art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.

• Limited edition Mass Effect digital comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.

• Digital 4x6 lithographic featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.

• A full collection of in-game content that can’t be found anywhere else!

• N7 Arsenal Pack – Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.

• Robotic Dog Companion – A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.

• Squadmate Alternate Outfit Pack – New appearances for your favorite squad members.

• N7 Hoodie – For Commander Shepard’s casual days on board the Normandy.

• Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.

• Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.

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GAME DETAILS

PUBLISHER
Electronic Arts
BRAND
Mass Effect
DEVELOPER
Bioware
INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED FOR PRODUCT ACTIVATION. INTERNET CONNECTION, EA/ORIGIN AC

Maybe i'm going blind but i don't see anything relating to the DLC there.

Modifié par piemanz, 22 février 2012 - 09:44 .

[El Ejcovero]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Theory75 wrote...

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released.

Hahaha, you really believe that, don't you?

DLC is often developed alongside the main game.  It's just not always FINISHED when the rest of the game is done.

Not with a more honest developer like Bethesda... Sure it may be planned, art is drawn, but it has not been implemented yet or is incomplete. Day one DLC defeats the purpose of DLC/Expansions...

[Theory75]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Theory75 wrote...

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released.

Hahaha, you really believe that, don't you?

DLC is often developed alongside the main game.  It's just not always FINISHED when the rest of the game is done.

Sure their development must have been initiated and planned at least to some extent during the creation of the main game, but still the point stands.

[Draconis6666]

Alek the Great wrote...

This is bullcrap, I tolerated the multitude of exclusive pre-order dlc but this has gone too far. Its like If legion was made a dlc character in ME2. This is a horrible business practice and needs to stop. Bioware deserves any flak they get from this.

Legion being a DLC character would have in no way detracted from the plot or story of ME 2 the only thing it would detract from is the legion specific portion of the plot.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Theory75 wrote...

Oh and by the way to the people who compare this to Kasumis Memory, or LotSB, etc...The difference here is that they were developed AFTER the game itself was finished and released....So no, you can´t use those as comparison points.

Yeah, I can. You know why? Prothy was intended to be in the CE, that's why he was developed at the same time as the main game. Those that ordered the CE knew they were getting a special DLC squadmate, those that didn't knew that they weren't. 

Also, LotSB and Arrival are plot-critical, regardless of when they were developed. We still had to pay extra for them rather than downloading a patch or something free of charge, and if you didn't play them, some things in ME3 won't make sense. So, if you're wanting a worst offender in the DLC category, look at those two, not this.

[Daywalker315]

tsaio wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Seriously so much complaining about stupid DLC! It's not a big deal. There is so much exageration here it's unbelievable!

You can't say the Prothean should be in the game from the start. There is nothing wrong with day 1 DLC because in the end it's all optional content.. I'd rather BioWare allow me to purchase it day 1 rather then day 30.. I don't get why some people just can't grasp the word "optional".

Many people have no idea how much of an impact this DLC will have on the game... and lets me honnest.. it's DLC so that means not much. Prothean basically = Kasumi released day 1.

Also, for people saying "Well why not take more out of the game!? What do we really pay 60$ for?" You pay 60$ for Mass Effect 3. The game, because the rest is ADD ONS! Mass Effect 3 is fully enjoyable and completable WITHOUT them. And don't say "Well why not take more out of the game and charge it as DLC" This is one of the dumbest things ever, and not an valid excuse/argument. They won't take anything out because everything that is there is needed and it's what is most important to the game. The rest they sell as extra DLC because its really NOT NEEDED.

Also, many people (myself included) are getting the N7 edition.. we're paying extra for it and it comes with this DLC. So don't act like you have to pay extra while other people get it free. Everyone is paying for it.. when I saw the N7 edition video that said "Spoiler DLC squadmate" I bought it.. I paid extra for an extra character... I didn't complain.

I love how when BioWare says "ME3 N7 CE will include bonus spoiler DLC character"
everyone goes "Yay!! Awesome.. let's buy the CE!" I saw no complaining. But then when BioWare says "Good news! For those who didn't get the N7 CE, where doing you a favor by releasing the bonus DLC character as DLC so you can purchase it too if you please!"  then everyone goes "Wait WTF!! F*** you BioWare!! Day 1 DLC!!?? You guys suck! Pre order canceled!!"

I mean really for the last time ITS OPTIONAL CONTENT THAT IS NOT REQUIRE TO COMPLETE AND ENJOY MASS EFFECT 3!!!


It's no different then to buy a DVD.. or pay a little extra to get the Special Edition that includes a "SPECIAL FEATURES" disc.

... or buying a product that says "batteries not included" (actually this is worse because you can't use the product without paying more for batteries)

.... or buying a printer that doesn't come with ink, or a printer cable.

.... buying a computer that doesn't come with an anti-virus, only a trial (the computer is still fully usable only you might want an anti-virus.. if you do, buy one)
 
.... buying a camera that doesn't come with an SD card

I work in a retail store so I can name you lots... this isn't any different.. so stop complaining.. Buy it, or don't. It doesn't have to complicated.

you are just sad.

Actually he makes many great points. It's a bit of a rant but I think all the sane people feel this way. The game isn't incomplete if you don't have Prothy. You can still play it, enjoy it, finish it, save the galaxy, and all that. If you want him too for the extra lore and character, $10 isn't that bad. It's better than $10 for gun skins for Gears 3.

Besides, the 600MB+ wouldn't even fit on the X360 discs if they wanted it to. I guarantee it is crammed on those two discs with a bigger game than ME2 plus multiplayer.

[realguile]

Akaranz wrote...

This is damn ridiculous, I saved up money for this game, 40 euros - that's what it costs in my country, I finally got the money and I pre-ordered the game today from a local store, and now I read that a Prothean squadmate will be in the game? awesome! I can't wait to see that - wait, it's a DLC, that costs 10 dollars????

Now that made me angry, very angry, I am a big fan of the Mass Effect, it's my favourite video game series. I bought all of the DLC except Kasumi for ME2, but right now I don't have that spare money and I just finished saving up for the game itself. I know that this DLC is optional and I can play without it, but come on - IT'S A FREAKING PROTHEAN! I can't pass up that kind of opportunity.

So yeah, I am very disappointed and I really hope that Bioware understands at one point that this is wrong, and they either make it a free DLC or lower the price. Please Bioware, I love this game series, I have bought every game in the series - I bought a bunch of dlc for Mass Effect 2, it wouldn't hurt you to be kind to the people that have helped this series reach the fame that it has right now.

u mad cause you're broke? Get some euros or pesos and change em into euros and get the DLC. Don't be like the rest of these fools who cry and whine about it not being available to them. Work hard so you can afford it! Ask your parents!

[Aspiriini]

So many biodrones.

[DeathKong]

I'm boycotting ME3 until EA and Bioware come to their senses.

It's one thing to release day one DLC(which in it self pretty low), but intentionally with holding an important part of the story as premium content is something else entirely. Might as well sell the ending as DLC too.

[schnydz]

Draconis6666 wrote...

schnydz wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Bioware confirmed a long time ago that the CE char/mission would be available on Day 1 (at a price) for those who didn't purchase the CE.

This isn't Zareed

you also have no proof that hes any more relevant to the plot of the game than Zaeed was so yes he could very well be Zaeed.

My proof is that it is Prothean. Which has been discussed ad nauseum. 

[Draconis6666]

schnydz wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

schnydz wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Bioware confirmed a long time ago that the CE char/mission would be available on Day 1 (at a price) for those who didn't purchase the CE.

This isn't Zareed

you also have no proof that hes any more relevant to the plot of the game than Zaeed was so yes he could very well be Zaeed.

My proof is that it is Prothean. Which has been discussed ad nauseum. 

Your proof is not proof though, your argument is a failure before it even begins if thats your proof.