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[Eralrik]

I personally don't see this as killing the video game industry, so these company's put out DLC you have to purchase it helps them out by helping pay for new games and new content and the Dev's & writers to come back and work on more.
I see people prchasing gold from farmers for WoW with real cash for ingame items, now that is stupid but people will do it is it breaking the game industry who know's maybe.
After seeing Facebook and Youtube comments on so many people pissed off about the whole DLC and getting pirated copy's it's a wonder the whole video game industry doesn't just close their doors and say screw it were not making any money as people keep stealing the products.
As an early online gamer from 1990 and having to pay by the hour to play my favorite online games I personaly don't see a problem, to many people want it free or cheap, enjoy the games or don't play em and just breakout that classic board game or a deck of cards and let everyone else have fun buying and playing the games legaly!
So I fully support Bioware, EA to a point, because they have a reputation for wanting a game rushed and out before it's done attitude and they need to change that though!

So I will fully support Bioware and any new DLC they send out and I will purchase it and play the game for fun and enjoy it legaly.

Modifié par Eralrik, 22 février 2012 - 07:49 .

[Ar7emis]

Gabey5 wrote...

i posted this in another thread:

yeah this trend of purposefully leaving out companions to shaft the player is too far. Zaeed was fine because he was FREE.

They could have put the 'ashes' companion in the full game but chose to sell separately.


So the question is, is it worth it? Zaeed was not worth 10 bucks and if this companion is anything like him it is not worth it but if we are missing out on story critical plot points because for not getting him it is messed up

See, this is the ultimate problem.

A) If there is a lot of content with the From Ashes DLC that's significant to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

 If it's not much content with little significance to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

You can't win, Bioware.

[Ianamus]

This image really sums up my feelings on this:


 


It's about time more people complain about this. We've been waiting forward to this game for years, and they're ruining with this ridiculous day-one DLC buisness. 

Modifié par EJ107, 22 février 2012 - 07:52 .

[Nexis7]

Ar7emis wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

i posted this in another thread:

yeah this trend of purposefully leaving out companions to shaft the player is too far. Zaeed was fine because he was FREE.

They could have put the 'ashes' companion in the full game but chose to sell separately.


So the question is, is it worth it? Zaeed was not worth 10 bucks and if this companion is anything like him it is not worth it but if we are missing out on story critical plot points because for not getting him it is messed up

See, this is the ultimate problem.

A) If there is a lot of content with the From Ashes DLC that's significant to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

 If it's not much content with little significance to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

You can't win, Bioware.

Because it should've been i nthe game in the first place.

[Gabey5]

Ar7emis wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

i posted this in another thread:

yeah this trend of purposefully leaving out companions to shaft the player is too far. Zaeed was fine because he was FREE.

They could have put the 'ashes' companion in the full game but chose to sell separately.


So the question is, is it worth it? Zaeed was not worth 10 bucks and if this companion is anything like him it is not worth it but if we are missing out on story critical plot points because for not getting him it is messed up

See, this is the ultimate problem.

A) If there is a lot of content with the From Ashes DLC that's significant to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

 If it's not much content with little significance to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

You can't win, Bioware.

i would not care if it had no bearing on the story but i think it does, it a prothean, so i think it will be relevant to the story. If it was some random mercenary i would not care.

[Aleitheo]

DarkPsylocke26 wrote...

Stop complainting about the DLC because no one is forcing you to buy the DLC.

They are if you are a fan of the games and care about the story.

It's a Prothean, I don't need to explain how big of a deal that having a Prothean squadmate is. Something like that is major, more important than Lair of the Shadow Broker was and that was some big DLC with what it did.

It would be like cutting out all missions from the game where you interact with the Turians and making you pay extra to get it. Actually that isn't as big really, Turians are hardly significant compared to a living Prothean.

Also just because you think that people aren't obligated to fork over extra cash for a large part of the game universe, doesn't mean that people don't have reasons to complain.

[PlumPaul93]

DLC done after the games been released is perfectly fine IMO, just this underhanded garbage pre release DLC nonsense is ruining things.

[Descy_]

Nexis7 wrote...

Ar7emis wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

i posted this in another thread:

yeah this trend of purposefully leaving out companions to shaft the player is too far. Zaeed was fine because he was FREE.

They could have put the 'ashes' companion in the full game but chose to sell separately.


So the question is, is it worth it? Zaeed was not worth 10 bucks and if this companion is anything like him it is not worth it but if we are missing out on story critical plot points because for not getting him it is messed up

See, this is the ultimate problem.

A) If there is a lot of content with the From Ashes DLC that's significant to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

 If it's not much content with little significance to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

You can't win, Bioware.

Because it should've been i nthe game in the first place.

But it's Bioware, where their motto is .... !

[J.amber]

what people don't seem to get their mind around is that as the game is near completion, not everyone is actually working on it, what think they'll just lay those people off? no they work on dlc which can be included in the main game pretty easily (i suppose, they left code in the game, to make it so) hence, the day 1 dlc which i have no problems with ... why, this is important, it's "optional" lol myself, i dont' really buy dlc *shrugs* it's a choice

[Reptillius]

The PLC wrote...

I miss expansions

I miss paying almost as much as I paid for the origional game for an addon that only worked with the origional game too...  They added more in but they suffered from needing patched more than the origional game usually and tended to break some rules established in the origional game as well.

[Nexis7]

Like honestly, if it was another character or something, I wouldve been more ok with it. Its just the fact that is a bloody prothean.
I dont know if you guys have noticed, but the Protheans are pretty important to mass effect. The fact that an alien part of the previous race that was extinguished by the reapers, can be recruited during the war against the reapers, is a big thing.
It would've been really informative for newcomers who hadn't played the previous mass effects, would make them understand the story more.
Why couldnt they have just made it so you get him when you buy a new game?

[Ianamus]

J.amber wrote...

what people don't seem to get their mind around is that as the game is near completion, not everyone is actually working on it, what think they'll just lay those people off? no they work on dlc which can be included in the main game pretty easily (i suppose, they left code in the game, to make it so) hence, the day 1 dlc which i have no problems with ... why, this is important, it's "optional" lol myself, i dont' really buy dlc *shrugs* it's a choice

The problem is that news of the Prothean character DLC was leaked accidentally many, many months ago. It's clear that Bioware planned from very early on how they were going to do this. 

Some game shops were letting you pre-order the DLC alongside the game, which is really going to far. It should have just been included in the game in the first place.

Modifié par EJ107, 22 février 2012 - 07:57 .

[Ratharos]

I agree with OP, I would love the games to go back to the 1999-2005ish system of COMPLETE games and separate expansion packs.(which were mostly a different campaign/story entirely) But games are becoming very costly to develop and dlc seems like a good way to milk a game for more money.
It's sad, but it's a trend that won't go away as long as people support it and by the look of this thread it isn't going away anytime soon.

[PlumPaul93]

Nexis7 wrote...Why couldnt they have just made it so you get him when you buy a new game?

Because they wouldn't get an extra $10.

[Solgineer]

Any self respecting person will not buy into this nonsense, and if you do it shows how much of a chump you really are. Enjoy getting walked on for the rest of your life, it starts here. Oh, and don't worry, I'm not buying Mass Effect 3 at all now.

[Abirn]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Nexis7 wrote...Why couldnt they have just made it so you get him when you buy a new game?

Because they wouldn't get an extra $10.

They already get an extra 10 dollars from PC players.......

[PlumPaul93]

Solgineer wrote...I'm not buying Mass Effect 3 at all now.

You're a stronger person than me. Other than ME3 I don't plan to buy any game from BW/EA again.

[Nexis7]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Nexis7 wrote...Why couldnt they have just made it so you get him when you buy a new game?

Because they wouldn't get an extra $10.

and thats exactly why we're complaining. they sliced out an improtant character to the game and sold it, knowing that people will go buy it.
Im not going to scream pre-order cancelled or boycott the game, im just expressing my distaste at this. 
the fact that people are defending this decision just makes me sad, to be honest. 

[Lightweight Nate]

DLC is good when it comes out AFTER the game. You don't hear people complaining about Skyrim's DLC, because they haven't released an expansion yet.

[Alex_SM]

EJ107 wrote...

This image really sums up my feelings on this:


 


It's about time more people complain about this. We've been waiting forward to this game for years, and they're ruining with this ridiculous day-one DLC buisness. 

Quoted for truth. 

[Farbautisonn]

Im a bit miffed too . But for the precisely opposite reason most of you lot are.

I dont think a real live prothean belongs in ME3 and ESPECIALLY not as a friggen member of the crew.

Whats his backstory, whats he doing as a crewmember, how do we get him, why the hell isnt he swamped with scientists trying to get tissue samples, why, why why WHY? The Storytelling pitfalls here are amazing and including a prothean is about as great as introducing a goddamn T-rex to my crew.

I wish the prothean was not in the CE.

[Descy_]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Im a bit miffed too . But for the precisely opposite reason most of you lot are.

I dont think a real live prothean belongs in ME3 and ESPECIALLY not as a friggen member of the crew.

Whats his backstory, whats he doing as a crewmember, how do we get him, why the hell isnt he swamped with scientists trying to get tissue samples, why, why why WHY? The Storytelling pitfalls here are amazing and including a prothean is about as great as introducing a goddamn T-rex to my crew.

I wish the prothean was not in the CE.

Isn't that the point of the DLC?
To explain it all?

[robmokron]

[Reptillius]

Descy_ wrote...

Nexis7 wrote...

Ar7emis wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

i posted this in another thread:

yeah this trend of purposefully leaving out companions to shaft the player is too far. Zaeed was fine because he was FREE.

They could have put the 'ashes' companion in the full game but chose to sell separately.


So the question is, is it worth it? Zaeed was not worth 10 bucks and if this companion is anything like him it is not worth it but if we are missing out on story critical plot points because for not getting him it is messed up

See, this is the ultimate problem.

A) If there is a lot of content with the From Ashes DLC that's significant to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

 If it's not much content with little significance to the story, why the hell did Bioware take it out the main game and slap a price tag on it?

You can't win, Bioware.

Because it should've been i nthe game in the first place.

But it's Bioware, where their motto is .... !

It actually shouldn't have been in the main game to start with.  To make all the copies we need for this game. To get all the extra stuff made and together for the CE's and such and then they basically had what was going on the Main Disk done back some time in November just to get them all printed out. Unless they have somehow dramatically improved the manufacturing of the discs in the last couple years or so.  That means for the last 3 months the guys making the game have not had much to do on the game itself. Maybe minor tweaks they could somehow introduce into things but nothing major.

So what have they been doing.  Instead of running off to another game or something and forgetting about us. They've been showing our loyalty to us by spending this extra time working on new content and finishing it up.  Giving us a part of the story that wouldn't exist.  And let's face it. Anything we get from Ashes might seem huge to us but it's nothing that will really break the game or change it significantly.

Heck Awakening is one of the few DLC I've seen in a long time that has some kind of actual main story point.

But the Companion from From Ashes? Which I still wouldn't guarantee is a Protean... Just something Protean Centric...  Since Art on such things is not always wholely indicative of the characters in them... Even with Bioware...

He wouldn't have made the origional game. He's going to add depth for us rabid lore fans that get in here. But he's not going to make or break the story.  And the idea that he is and is somehow part of the main game probably isn't true. But since they have had several months and time before the game releases... He is going to feel the most naturally fit into it.  Because many will get the character and play with it from the beginning. Instead of playing once or more than that and then adding him in later.  Thta's going to make him more naturally part of the story in our minds. REguardless of when and how he was done. It's our perception of things which your throwing fits about. Not any actual reality.

[woods26]

Solgineer wrote...
Enjoy getting walked on for the rest of your life, it starts here. Oh, and don't worry, I'm not buying Mass Effect 3 at all now.

Do videogames control all aspects of our lives? I guess I don't take videogames as seriously as most of these forum members here. "Slightly annoyed" is the angriest I can get over this sort of thing.

Modifié par woods26, 22 février 2012 - 08:06 .