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[Daywalker315]

Raizo wrote...

I was afraid that this would happen. It has been one of my biggest fears ever since this generation of consoles came out and sadly it looks like things will only get worse. the DLC issue surrounding ME3 has been a massive joke, I loved the article that said that it would cost over $850 to get all of ME3's DLC.

That $850 thing is ludicrous. People will always spin something to suit their idiotic arguments. That's counting a $210 headset, $80 mouse, $60 controller, etc., that all give the SAME MP gun unlock. I think any sane person understands you can't add it all up to say you have to spend $850 to get it all. And what's worse, people act like they have to spend $210 for DLC. No, you spend $210 on a headset and get DLC as a thank you/incentive to buy now rather than wait and think about it til after launch (when you're less likely to buy it because the ME3 excitement will have worn off, meaning less excited to buy N7 headset). People can sure make some preposterous arguments and sadly they think they're perfectly logical.

[Phoenix 66]

Sooo... Now I've got to wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out as a classic with the DLC included in it. I cannot afford the DLC for Mass Effect 2 as it is, even though I really want to buy it. I just cannot justify myself buying the game knowing that I'm going to have to spend even more of my non-existent cash to get the full story, story being the thing that makes Bioware.

So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

[Farbautisonn]

Descy_ wrote...

You really are stubborn, arent you?

For someone who has the "
cognitive aptitude for realizing the implications of using certain words ", you still dont understand it. Just because I say that if someone is confused about ******any part*******, then they should go play the first two games, DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE INFORMATION WILL BE THERE.

If I was saying that the information would be there, then it would have looked like: " If you're confused about any part of the history, then the information is in the past two games."

"Then they should play the past two games" =/= "The information is in the past two games".

-So you were just writing nonsensical bull****e for the sake of writing it then? What was the point of your original post then ? 

[AtreiyaN7]

I think it was far more likely that we would not get an expansion in the past unless we were really, really lucky and a game was popular enough to merit it. Therefore, we wouldn't have had things like TLotSB, etc. Is everything going to be a winner? No - we get some crappy stuff alongside the good DLC, but no one is denied "essential" content. Story DLC with actual content and actual characters are the good stuff. And who says that these things would have made it into the game proper way back when? They might have been completely cut and gone. Regardless of whether the content is on the disc and unlocked or downloaded/whatever - you're not being denied anything.

The OCD types don't really have to buy those 57 copies of ME3 either - unless you're contending that preorder weapons and armor (which are ultimately meaningless and don't give you an overpowering advantage) are "essential" content. They're not essential - not skins, not weapons, not armor.

[Daywalker315]

Skullheart wrote...

Day 1 DLC's are like an excuse to sell an incomplete game.

Wrong. Day 1 DLC's give the player a chance to have that DLC for their first playthrough and not have to buy it later and use it on a 2nd or 3rd one. You don't have to buy it. In fact, don't buy it, and if you can't finish the game in the end because you didn't have it, then you can come back here and say it's incomplete.

[Ar7emis]

Phoenix 66 wrote...

Sooo... Now I've got to wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out as a classic with the DLC included in it. I cannot afford the DLC for Mass Effect 2 as it is, even though I really want to buy it. I just cannot justify myself buying the game knowing that I'm going to have to spend even more of my non-existent cash to get the full story, story being the thing that makes Bioware.

So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

Lai?

[Descy_]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Descy_ wrote...

You really are stubborn, arent you?

For someone who has the "
cognitive aptitude for realizing the implications of using certain words ", you still dont understand it. Just because I say that if someone is confused about ******any part*******, then they should go play the first two games, DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE INFORMATION WILL BE THERE.

If I was saying that the information would be there, then it would have looked like: " If you're confused about any part of the history, then the information is in the past two games."

"Then they should play the past two games" =/= "The information is in the past two games".

-So you were just writing nonsensical bull****e for the sake of writing it then? What was the point of your original post then ? 

Trolling on a stupid thread, what else?

[Daywalker315]

Phoenix 66 wrote...

Sooo... Now I've got to wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out as a classic with the DLC included in it. I cannot afford the DLC for Mass Effect 2 as it is, even though I really want to buy it. I just cannot justify myself buying the game knowing that I'm going to have to spend even more of my non-existent cash to get the full story, story being the thing that makes Bioware.

So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

So you don't have an extra $10 for ME3 DLC but you have $100 to drop on Diablo 3 collector's edition? Interesting.

[Toshir]

Descy_ wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Descy_ wrote...

You really are stubborn, arent you?

For someone who has the "
cognitive aptitude for realizing the implications of using certain words ", you still dont understand it. Just because I say that if someone is confused about ******any part*******, then they should go play the first two games, DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE INFORMATION WILL BE THERE.

If I was saying that the information would be there, then it would have looked like: " If you're confused about any part of the history, then the information is in the past two games."

"Then they should play the past two games" =/= "The information is in the past two games".

-So you were just writing nonsensical bull****e for the sake of writing it then? What was the point of your original post then ? 

Trolling on a stupid thread, what else?

The irony of your post =/

[Kveki]

EA,please,but please don't become Activision....God damn I wanna shoot the person that first thought of this idea...

We payed the game and you reward us by taking away a large part of the story...

I don't know....Who is a retard here,the game companies that make this bloody dlcs or us who actualy buy them so they can keep making them ...

[Alex_SM]

Day 1 DCL's are an excuse to milk the consumers a bit more.

[saturos2]

Skullheart wrote...

Day 1 DLC's are like an excuse to sell an incomplete game.

It's not incomplete if its already on the disk. Therefore its just an excuse to force people to pay 10 bucks for content on the disk.

[majorfalcon00]

Kveki wrote...

EA,please,but please don't become Activision....God damn I wanna shoot the person that first thought of this idea...

We payed the game and you reward us by taking away a large part of the story...

I don't know....Who is a retard here,the game companies that make this bloody dlcs or us who actualy buy them so they can keep making them ...

muahahahahaha dude read the EA spouse article.  EA can't become Activision, becuase Activision BECAME EA first.  EA has always been evil, and this is just another reason to stop buying their games.

I am begining to believe in the bible more and more....people realy are sheep.

[Wolf]

Modifié par Gaiden96, 22 février 2012 - 09:23 .

[Farbautisonn]

Descy_ wrote...
Trolling on a stupid thread, what else?

-Somehow I doubt you have that aptitude. Let me guess... you have been on /b/ since last summer? 

[Daywalker315]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I think it was far more likely that we would not get an expansion in the past unless we were really, really lucky and a game was popular enough to merit it. Therefore, we wouldn't have had things like TLotSB, etc. Is everything going to be a winner? No - we get some crappy stuff alongside the good DLC, but no one is denied "essential" content. Story DLC with actual content and actual characters are the good stuff. And who says that these things would have made it into the game proper way back when? They might have been completely cut and gone. Regardless of whether the content is on the disc and unlocked or downloaded/whatever - you're not being denied anything.

The OCD types don't really have to buy those 57 copies of ME3 either - unless you're contending that preorder weapons and armor (which are ultimately meaningless and don't give you an overpowering advantage) are "essential" content. They're not essential - not skins, not weapons, not armor.

The problem is, expansions don't usually sell these days. In fact, based on VGchartz (yes, not super reliable, I know), Dragon Age Origins sold about 4 million copies between 360, PS3, and PC combined. On the flip side, only about 600,000 physical copies of Awakening were sold. Granted, more were sold later on XBL (and maybe PSN? I don't use PS3) and I'm sure digitally on PC as well. Even if the figures were doubled though due to digital sales, 1.2 million copies out of 4 million plus only represents a 25-30% adoption rate of the expansion at best.

I'm guessing that was the reason BioWare shifted to strictly piecemeal DLC. People are far more likely to buy something at $5-10 every few months than to drop $30-40 all at one time to add to a game they already finished a year prior. Also, smaller piecemeal DLC means they can get more of it out sooner after launch and in a steady stream thereafter, meaning people can get their content fix more often. Most people (not everyone, I know) are more likely to spend a few bucks when they've recently played the game and it's fresh on their mind. Not to mention, the digital age of XBL and PSN mean no physical copy costs of manufacturing for the publishers, no logistics of shipping copies to retail, etc. There's a reason it's preferred by nearly every developer and publisher now. And it's not going away anytime soon.

[Phoenix 66]

Daywalker315 wrote...

So you don't have an extra $10 for ME3 DLC but you have $100 to drop on Diablo 3 collector's edition? Interesting.

No that is not what I meant, I'm actually not sure what it will be in $NZ terms, but rather than spend the money on all of mass effect DLC (which will probably be around NZD-50 with the DLC that is yet to be confirmed/published included) I'd rather spend my limited money on another complete game.

Having looked at the Diablo 3 collectors edition and its cost, I will be sticking to the basic version, that was a really bad example to use. My bad.

[Kveki]

majorfalcon00 wrote...


muahahahahaha dude read the EA spouse article.  EA can't become Activision, becuase Activision BECAME EA first.  EA has always been evil, and this is just another reason to stop buying their games.

I am begining to believe in the bible more and more....people realy are sheep.

Well EA at least still has some studios that actualy do a thing or two right...

But this is too much,people should really look up to CD project....

[Daywalker315]

saturos2 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Day 1 DLC's are like an excuse to sell an incomplete game.

It's not incomplete if its already on the disk. Therefore its just an excuse to force people to pay 10 bucks for content on the disk.

The day 1 DLC in question here is a 600MB+ download. If you think about it though, ME3 is supposedly bigger than ME2, plus multiplayer. It's all stretched onto just 2 discs for Xbox. Anybody willing to bet they couldn't even fit another 600MB onto the discs anyway? I'd be willing to bet this COULDN'T even fit on the disc if they wanted it to. They're probably using some compression already just to make it fit on 2 currently.

[Descy_]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Descy_ wrote...
Trolling on a stupid thread, what else?

-Somehow I doubt you have that aptitude. Let me guess... you have been on /b/ since last summer? 

Apart from clicking a link today that explained the Stanley Woo thing going on right now, nope.
The fact that all /b/ is is people trolling trolls, makes it not too fun.
I just get bored sometimes.

[majorfalcon00]

Kveki wrote...

majorfalcon00 wrote...


muahahahahaha dude read the EA spouse article.  EA can't become Activision, becuase Activision BECAME EA first.  EA has always been evil, and this is just another reason to stop buying their games.

I am begining to believe in the bible more and more....people realy are sheep.

Well EA at least still has some studios that actualy do a thing or two right...

But this is too much,people should really look up to CD project....

Inded. CD Proect is the beacon of the gaming industry right now.  Full game, with the best writing in the whole industry and choices that actually have consequences, and all free DLC.

[Eragondragonrider]

Phoenix 66 wrote...


So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

Yay Activision/Blizzard never pull this crap.....I am sure some players would disagree with this statement.

Modifié par Eragondragonrider, 22 février 2012 - 09:29 .

[Descy_]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Phoenix 66 wrote...


So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

Yay Activision/Blizzard never pull this crap.....I am sure some players would disagree with this statement.

LOLOLOLOL ACTIVISON.

See: Call of Duty.

[vader da slayer]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Phoenix 66 wrote...


So, I'll save my cash and spend it on a better version of Blizzard's Diablo 3, as they are unlikely to pull this **** on me.

Yay Activision/Blizzard never pull this crap.....I am sure some players would disagree with this statement.

I wonder if he knows that the AH in Diablo 3 uses really money and there's a really money fee (of like 1 dollar per transaction, that is if you sell something 1 dollar is taken from the amount the item sold for, if it doesn't sell no fee is charged) that Blizz takes.

Modifié par vader da slayer, 22 février 2012 - 09:31 .

[saturos2]

Daywalker315 wrote...

saturos2 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Day 1 DLC's are like an excuse to sell an incomplete game.

It's not incomplete if its already on the disk. Therefore its just an excuse to force people to pay 10 bucks for content on the disk.

The day 1 DLC in question here is a 600MB+ download. If you think about it though, ME3 is supposedly bigger than ME2, plus multiplayer. It's all stretched onto just 2 discs for Xbox. Anybody willing to bet they couldn't even fit another 600MB onto the discs anyway? I'd be willing to bet this COULDN'T even fit on the disc if they wanted it to. They're probably using some compression already just to make it fit on 2 currently.

im sure if they took out the pointless robot dog they could fit it on the disk. i digress, we've known about this porthean for awhile now im sure they had time to fit him on the disk. EA abd bioware just know people will pay for a prothean. Why? because we know so little about them and it adds to the lore. so in other words its a scam.