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[TheKillerAngel]

As of right now, the Carnifex pistol is more accurate, does more damage, and is lighter. It also has the potential to carry more ammunition per magazine. I don't think it's right for a full sized semi automatic sniper to be less powerful than a pistol. 

[elferin91]

No.
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[Khaz]

you can even get a pistol scope xD

[Cloudgunho]

i have no problem Killing my fair share with the Viper. i see no real problem

[ATONAT]

Must not forget about the additional weapons in the final game. There will surely be snipers that fill the role of a superior Viper. The Carnifex is a golden rare, whereas the Viper is an uncommon unlock.

[Chriss0978]

Cloudgunho wrote...

i have no problem Killing my fair share with the Viper. i see no real problem

It's not that the Viper isn't effective, just that the Carnifex is more.

Modifié par Chriss0978, 22 février 2012 - 05:52 .

[themaxzero]

Chriss0978 wrote...

Cloudgunho wrote...

i have no problem Killing my fair share with the Viper. i see no real problem

It's not that the Viper isn't effective, just that pistols are more.

Only the Carnifex.

[Chriss0978]

themaxzero wrote...

Chriss0978 wrote...

Cloudgunho wrote...

i have no problem Killing my fair share with the Viper. i see no real problem

It's not that the Viper isn't effective, just that pistols are more.

Only the Carnifex.

Ops, sorry there.

Modifié par Chriss0978, 22 février 2012 - 05:18 .

[kingtrouble]

I never used the viper. Mantis -> Widow

[Bamboo33]

khazkhaz wrote...

you can even get a pistol scope xD

O RLY

[suprhomre]

I agree the viper is really a let down because it doesn't suite my play style like it did in ME2.

[hawat333]

But you have to admit, the Carnifex above looks a bit... am I the only one who feels a sudden urge to laugh?

[Arppis]

Imo, it should be less accurate having that much power.

[TheKillerAngel]

ATONAT wrote...

Must not forget about the additional weapons in the final game. There will surely be snipers that fill the role of a superior Viper. The Carnifex is a golden rare, whereas the Viper is an uncommon unlock.

 

That's definitely true. I still don't like the idea of having "underpowered" weapons, though. As of right now the Viper's role as a semi-automatic sniper is being outclassed by a pistol. I just don't think that's right at all.

Chriss0978 wrote...

Cloudgunho wrote...

i have no problem Killing my fair share with the Viper. i see no real problem

It's not that the Viper isn't effective, just that the Carnifex are more.

This is essentially my point. It is either that the Carnifex is too strong or that the Viper is not commensurate to its strength as a semi automatic sniper rifle.

[Bamboo33]

hawat333 wrote...

But you have to admit, the Carnifex above looks a bit... am I the only one who feels a sudden urge to laugh?

I know. The barrel is so out of place it's painful.

[Kilshrek]

Anyone who can look through the Carnifex scope must not have normal binocular vision. Or even anything below their eyes.

Anyway the logical buff for the viper would be rof, since it has very good capacity to begin with. Damage is typically balanced by rof, perhaps not so in the case of the viper.

[Cloaking_Thane]

The Viper has a very awkward ROF, that couple with the stagger effect throws your shot off, it's not nearly as smooth as the Viper in ME2, more movement and you cant pull the trigger as fast

[Kilshrek]

Yes, the viper isn't quite a semi-auto sniper rifle despite the name. And it has some hideous recoil for a low damage gun. A scoped and stabilised mattock is better than the viper in fact. Not to mention the obvious carnifex above.

[Haasth]

No.
The Carnifex should get a nerf. Honestly, that thing is crazy and the only issue it has is ammo management. Which, hurray, is no problem in multiplayer.

[Thunderfurby]

Carnifex is awesome, I use it on all my Biotics.

Not touched the Viper, even on an Infiltrator I always went with the Mantis until Widow came along.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Haasth wrote...

No.
The Carnifex should get a nerf. Honestly, that thing is crazy and the only issue it has is ammo management. Which, hurray, is no problem in multiplayer.

The Viper is still not smooth though, if you could rapidly fire shots i.e. ME2 this wouldnt even be a conversation.

No buff or nerf is needed this isnt a pvp game. Just a slight tweak in execution.

I find my self missing quite a few viper shots due to factors outside my control often.

I vote to make it silky smooth like the ME2 version and then we're cooking with gas

[Bamboo33]

Reduce Viper sway.
Nerf damage on Carnifex.
Problem solved.

[XsageheartX]

Bamboo33 wrote...

Reduce Viper sway.
Nerf damage on Carnifex.
Problem solved.

Agreed.

[GroverA 125]

Carnifex has superior RoF, but the viper sports a nimble reload time and has a near-endless supply of ammunition. This gives them somewhat equal footing, but I do admit that it should have slightly more firepower. Easily enough for two shots to take down a target if they're in the chest.

[Lightweight Nate]

Don't you dare try to nerf the Carnifex. Has anyone ever killed you with it? Does it really bother you that much that someone's ultra rare pistol does a lot of damage? It's balanced by the slow rate of fire and low ammo capacity.