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A letter to bioware


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dear bioware staff,

I am a huge fan of your games that I have manage to play. I really enjoyed playing the first knights of the old republic and i went out to buy the first mass effect years ago when I first got an xbox 360. Unfortunately, the bioware that I knew years ago is no more. I know that this is a business so that's why I tolerated the passes for Zaeed in ME2 but what you did with a certain character in ME3 is unexcusable. I understand withholding him from used copy buyers but I'm buying this game new. Making a character, that you deem is worth $10 mind you, an exclusive to the CE is dirty. I'm paying $60 for this game but if i want the "full" experience i have to shell out $10 more and that's not cool. Essential or not, making a character that you had planned from near the beginning a DLC character for ten dollars is absurd. I'm not speaking for everyone here as I'm sure you guys have "loyal" fans that will eat up anything you throw at them but after ME3 I'm not buying anymore bioware games. I have no hatred for you guys, just disappointment.


- a former fan

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Texhnolyze101

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Bioware is eating fine stake and tossing money in the air at this very moment while you posted this.

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You know, I'm sure that the new character is just like Zaeed, there to deliver some automated lines and one more mission. I'm pretty sure they will downplay it's role a lot.

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I used to like Bioware games, now I think they suck a*s (story wise).

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Speaking of entitlement issues.......

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nelly21

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Is it absurd? You want him. You are probably going to get him. It sounds like a sound business technique to me. Gamers have to learn to differentiate what they want from what they need.

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games need to stop thinking they are entitled to everything. Simple as that.

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

Speaking of entitlement issues.......


I see no entitlement in his post at all and hes right all new copy's should have the prothy dlc and obviously if you buy used you fork over 10$.

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OP- I agree that making this character DLC, who from a ME lore standpoint is as important if not more so than Shepard is horse****. But that's not just a BW problem, it's gaming industry problem. Games are being released a broken mess(Skyrim) with promises to patch later, or a piece if the story sold separately. It's sad how greed has poisoned everything.

Good luck on his post, the BW defenders are about to go scorched Earth on you. In 3.....2......1......

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nelly21 wrote...

Is it absurd? You want him. You are probably going to get him. It sounds like a sound business technique to me. Gamers have to learn to differentiate what they want from what they need.


No gamers have been made more docile and susceptible to this type of stuff.

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If this was available for free to people who buy new, then I could understand it's purpose, but this is just pure greed.

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If you want the secret DLC character, then pay the $10. It's not that much. Otherwise, shut up.

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Atakuma wrote...

If this was available for free to people who buy new, then I could understand it's purpose, but this is just pure greed.


^ This

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Atakuma wrote...

If this was available for free to people who buy new, then I could understand it's purpose, but this is just pure greed.


Not really, when they did that for Origns and Mass Effect 2 people still ****ed, so they changed policies into something I personally am not a huge fan of.

Either way, people will complain because they think its wrong, and then buy  it anyway because they begrudge it.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 22 février 2012 - 04:03 .


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RocketManSR2 wrote...

If you want the secret DLC character, then pay the $10. It's not that much. Otherwise, shut up.


^ The type of idiot EA wants.

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yes its ashame they are doing this it seems too punish those who are paying full price more than it does those who go second hand or pirate

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wow what's with all the ****ing, I think people are just upset that the CE is only in limited quantity which it should be hence why they are called limited editions not I'll see 20 more copies on the shelf because they made one for every gamer. which usually end up happening.

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Did you cancel your pre-order or not?

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Blame EA, not BioWare.

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

If you want the secret DLC character, then pay the $10. It's not that much. Otherwise, shut up.

Lets see:

Spend £5 on a DLC character or spend £5 on a 6 pack?

answer is simple: spend £5 on a 6 pack

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

No gamers have been made more docile and susceptible to this type of stuff.


Please. Gamers aren't victims. The dlc is there. Op can buy it or not. The game can be completed with or without the dlc.

And docile? Dlc can't even be mentioned on this forum without the obligatory "but I want it for free" crowd sounding off. How are gamers docile? Because a lot of people buy dlc? Have you stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, people enjoy getting more content that extends the life of games? And maybe, and I know this is way out there, they feel that they are capable of making their own decisions with their money?

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LinksOcarina wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

If this was available for free to people who buy new, then I could understand it's purpose, but this is just pure greed.


Not really, when they did that for Origns and Mass Effect 2 people still ****ed, so they changed policies into something I personally am not a huge fan of.

Either way, people will complain because they think its wrong, and then buy  it anyway because they begrudge it.

What they did for DA:O served a justifiable purpose, this does not. This is content was planned for the game from the beginning, selling it as an extra is simply dishonest and wrong.

Modifié par Atakuma, 22 février 2012 - 04:08 .


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Garrus Kavarian wrote...

Blame EA, not BioWare.


How come EA can publish good games that are not made by Bioware ?

And what about this ?


Poor Hepler did not exactly help her case, publicly stating: "I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either." Unfortunately, that opened the doors for even more spiteful commentary, because everybody knows you can't defend yourself on the Internet -- especially if you mention that you have a vagina. 
Everything seemed to come to a head with studio GM Aaryn Flynn getting involved. After one user called Hepler "the cancer that is killing BioWare," Flynn retorted by calling him a "****ing moron." So now BioWare is accused of treating customers disrespectfully, and the moron in question is going on a crusade and talking about his hurt feelings. Nevermind that he started the insulting tone of the conversation.  

Internet trolls sure but if you start insulting your potential customers in that fashion you are just as bad.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 22 février 2012 - 04:09 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...

Garrus Kavarian wrote...

Blame EA, not BioWare.


How come EA can publish good games that are not made by Bioware ?


What good games have EA published?

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Yep, don't buy it.

I wouldn't if it felt like robbing. Everyone knew this was comming.

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Garrus Kavarian wrote...

Blame EA, not BioWare.


How come EA can publish good games that are not made by Bioware ?


What good games have EA published?


Medal
of Honor Airborne. Seriously, awesome game. TOO BAD they decided to
copy CoD right after it. That game was best MoH game around. Also, I
enjoyed Army of Two, even Merceranies 2.

Modifié par Arppis, 22 février 2012 - 04:10 .