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A letter to bioware


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#151
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#152
nelly21

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kelton312 wrote...

If I pay 60$ for the game, (which I am only doing simply for the multiplayer this time around, sadly.) I expect to get all the content you made for it, especially on PC. Instead I have to get the game through other methods so I can play all the content that you made for it on day one.


So you are only interested in the mp (which is included in your $60 purchase), but will get the game through "other methods" only because a SP additional squadmate is day one dlc.

Bravo. You truly have a dizzying intellect.

Modifié par nelly21, 22 février 2012 - 05:24 .


#153
WizenSlinky0

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Vieuxcruex wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Because the content is already on the damn disc have you not heard what the prothean sounds like this stuff was taken from the demo in other words content intentionlly taken out to sell.


I'm curious, how excatly did they manage to add 600+ megabites of data for just that single character in a demo that was only 1.5 gigs, yet managed to have three other squadmates with you at that stage. I mean, if all 600+ megabytes was just for the protherian, then Garrus and Liara alone must have increased the size to 2.1 gigs. Then with Wrex and Anderson, not to mention data for both ashley and Kaide, that must have increased the demo unto 4.2 gigs


It's most likely redundent files that already exist on the gamedisc but were edited to include the new code and information that now need to be kept in there edited forms to reference the new information.

ironcreed2 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...
How
about the fact that the Protheans were established as an integral part
of the story in Mass Effect 1. Is that not reason enough that this
character should have just been included in the game, or at the very
least, included with every new copy of the game? 

Is the very specific Prothean we are talking about so integral to Mass Effect 3, that the original product doesn't make sense or isn't worth the 60 dollars?


I
simply think the fact that he is a Prothean carries enough weight that
he should have just been a part of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.
Anyway, I am not here to whine, as I know die-hard fans will defend
paying more for day one DLC until the end of time. I just wanted to say
that there are those of us who do not feel entitled for more, just
entitled to what easily could have (and in the old days very much would
have) just been a part of the game.

In summary, this "pay more
for this, pay a little more for that" day one DLC appraoch is simply
getting ridiculous for some of us. That is all I am going to say on the
matter here. Enjoy your Prothean, as well as the game. I'll just enjoy
the game without it as a matter of principle.


Not really. Protheans mostly have to do with the worlds past. Not its present nor its future. Therefore it's entirely reasonable to treat a prothean as any 'ol generic character addition, albeit a very interesting generic addition. I don't know why people keep thinking the protheans are a big deal. They are as big of a deal as the race that came before them, and the one before that, and the one before that. Just another cycle. We just happen to know the most about the protheans.

I'm not disagreeing that the day 1 DLC scene is getting ridiculous. I really don't want to pay it (though to be honest, I'm likely going to, 'cause it's mass effect). I've never been a fan of day 1 DLC. I believe DLC exists to expand on the game after it is finished completely and out to the public. It's a good way for developers to eleborate or explore something they didn't have the budget/time/desire to do previously. Or even just to experiment with new features for future games.

But as for this continual desire to have day 1 DLC avaliable...it's silly. This isn't the launch of a console when you need tons of day 1 stuff on sale. It's a game.

#154
Duncaaaaaan

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Bioware is bought by EA.

EA controls bioware. EA can turn ME into a call of duty style franchise. It's all over.

Wait no it isn't it's just a demo.

#155
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 good read would read again 10/10

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I think this is unacceptable. This character was obviously not made as an extra character because his dialog is already there in the demo files. With Sebastian and Zaeed you could at least get that content for free.

I personally am not affected because I ordered the CE but I understand why others are upset.

#157
RocketManSR2

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One thing I keep seeing over and over is the statement that the CE DLC was chopped and resold just to be greedy. Unless you have solid proof, stfu. Statements based on assumptions are pointless.

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Thoth_Amon wrote...

Blarty wrote...

Not having the Prothean squadmate does not affect your ability to complete the game at any level, therefore, within the context of the game you do not REQUIRE it, just because you WANT it doesn't mean that to by not being able to implicitly play it will leave you with a broken game experience.

Of course people feel that it is important from a Lore perspective, but that lore is based on Prothean civilization of 50000 years ago, and yes, having the character may fill in some blanks regarding the Protheans but in a similar fashion no-one would know about Grey boxes, if it weren't for Kasumi


Thank you for helping to make the gaming industry an even slimier place.  It's this awful line of thinking that is only going to further games getting chopped up and sold piece by piece.  Our only cause of action is to support quality devs who don't price gouge their games before they're even released.


No my point is simple, making out that not having this DLC apparently leaves you with a worse or broken product is disingenuous - no I don't like the idea of the DLC, I am getting the CE for xbox, and if I want to play my son's PS3 CE I'll have to buy this DLC and the online pass as well, so please don't make out like it doesn't affect me.... but taking the line that somehow this makes your experience worse and the devs should absolutely allow you to have it on top of what you already get for free is just plain daft..... the game doesn't stop just before the final battle and say 'Sorry please download the DLC in order to continue'

Has anyone thought that this character and DLC was maybe added late on in the development process as a result of fans requesting it? That perhaps the designers of ME3 actually thought, that's a good idea - not completely integral to the story or gameplay but a good idea from the fans? 

#159
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You get your full experience with your 60 bucks. The DLC is DLC, a bonus. And no one will know of the character's significance to the story until they play through it.

If you want the character, you have a choice to buy the DLC.

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Bioware is bought by EA.

EA controls bioware. EA can turn ME into a call of duty style franchise. It's all over.

Wait no it isn't it's just a demo.


It was only a matter of time until this topic drew trolls.

#161
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Atakuma wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Do you? I used the word correctly.


From Webster's

Extort: to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or illegal power : wring; also : to gain especially by ingenuity or compelling argument

Is EA forcing you to buy it? Are we being intimidated to buy it? Are they doing something illegal? No.

So they are not extorting anyone.

the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority.

They're not forcing you to buy it, that's the difference.

Don't get me wrong, I hate this DLC practice, but if we're going to go by definition, you're wrong about it being extortion. 

#162
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