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I bought the Collector's edition for the pet dog mech and possibly to see James Vega shirtless. If I get a Prothean with it, I'm not complaining.

If spending $10 at McDonald's for dinner is affordable, but you have the option of NOT paying for a character that you're b*tching about not wanting in the game. How about not paying for it and not b*tching?

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AnAngryFetus wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

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OK, for the defenders here: Kasumi seemed more like an after thought. Like "Hey, what if we had a character like this?" They made her after release and they charged $10 for it. That's fine by me. The problem is that we have a situation where it sounds exactly like Zaeed, except instead of giving him for free as a thank you for buying a new copy instead of a used copy, he is now $10 automatically. Zaeed is now $10. Legion is now $10. It's like that. If bioware and EA provided him in the same way as Zaeed, I would be all right with this.



Kasumi was not made after release she was completed after release the character already had files on the main disc.

Ok, completed.  But the point still stands that she was NOT FINISHED on launch day and this guy is CLEARLY FINISHED.



Finished on Launch day is not the same as Finished in the final build of the game however. If he was not finished when the game went gold and was sent to be put on discs then  he is Bonus content regardless of when he is completed.

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AnAngryFetus wrote...


Ok, completed.  But the point still stands that she was NOT FINISHED on launch day and this guy is CLEARLY FINISHED.

They get finished when they get finished. And DLC produces much faster than main games. Would you prefer they just sit on their butts doing nothing for a few extra weeks? Does that provide improved value in some way?

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The Protheans are important because as far as we know they have been the ONLY race that has actually BUILT a Mass Relay. And more importantly managed to put one end on the surface of a world something which the Reapers did not or could not do. In other words they know a hell of a lot about the Mass Relays which is core to how the Reapers actually harvest the advanced races in the galaxy. A living Prothean who has that information is a VITAL WAR ASSET. If you do not see that that then have you been playing Mass Effect?

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Well seeing as how it is a race that has been fabled about since ME1 I would assume there is a great significance to his character. I mean they aren't some side detail the protheans were a plot point in the series.

Bioware/EA is just being greedy and found a way to shoehorn people into buying the CE.

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Doug M wrote...

I'm curious how this DLC was developed. Was it originally in the game and then pulled out for the express purpose of making it $10 DLC? Or was it something the developers thought of after ME3 was well into production and weren't able to fit the extra content into?

If it was intentionally pulled just to squeeze an extra $10 from customers, then that's not cool. If it was additional content that Bioware thought of afterwards, and were able to finish it up in time to be released on Day 1, then that's understandable.

I haven't read the leaked script or anything. Just wondering about the process this all went through.


Stanley Woo answers this question right here. 

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glacier1701 wrote...

The Protheans are important because as far as we know they have been the ONLY race that has actually BUILT a Mass Relay. And more importantly managed to put one end on the surface of a world something which the Reapers did not or could not do. In other words they know a hell of a lot about the Mass Relays which is core to how the Reapers actually harvest the advanced races in the galaxy. A living Prothean who has that information is a VITAL WAR ASSET. If you do not see that that then have you been playing Mass Effect?


Nope they made a mass relay that only works one way besides what's the prothean gonna tell us they lost we know they lost we know how they lost.Image IPB

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 ....sigh...


i'm really sorry to have to do this, i really am, after loving this series and its stories and characters i am very sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott of mass effect 3, i love the series and i would probably love mass effect 3 as well but as a consumer, i can't allow this misuse of DLC practice to happen.
i'm okay with day one DLC such as zaeed or shale that were free for people who bought the game new to help reduce the number of used sales and help the developers instead of the retail stores but in this case where only the collector's edition get the DLC included is another beast entirely, instead of promoting new game sales it actually does the opposite as both people with used and new games have to pay for this day one DLC making the used game more enticing to the consumer. this is just shooting yourself in the foot. 

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

 
 ....sigh...


i'm really sorry to have to do this, i really am, after loving this series and its stories and characters i am very sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott of mass effect 3, i love the series and i would probably love mass effect 3 as well but as a consumer, i can't allow this misuse of DLC practice to happen.
i'm okay with day one DLC such as zaeed or shale that were free for people who bought the game new to help reduce the number of used sales and help the developers instead of the retail stores but in this case where only the collector's edition get the DLC included is another beast entirely, instead of promoting new game sales it actually does the opposite as both people with used and new games have to pay for this day one DLC making the used game more enticing to the consumer. this is just shooting yourself in the foot. 


Thanks for the information. We were all in suspense on wether or not  nightcobra8928 was going to get the game or not. If your reason to post was to make yourself feel important then congrats.  

P.S. No offense really intended ,but why should we care or better yet why post this? It Contributed nothing.

Modifié par Cicero.me, 22 février 2012 - 09:19 .


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Why this character, a FRIGGIN PROHEAN, is DLC... I have no idea. I can't even conceive of a rational reason. And even though I preordered the N7 Edition and I'm gonna get this for free, it still doesn't matter. And it still doesn't make sense. Protheans have been built up, have been praised, have been INTEGRAL to the core plot in two games, three games if what has been revealed so far is any indication. And after all that we can feel rewarded with what, I suppose (<_<), is a Zaeed-like character?

Maybe I'm speaking only for myself (PFF - I doubt it :whistle:), but I would have appreciated - no, no... not after ME1 and the revelations in ME2 (Collectors being protheans an' all) - I would have expected that a prothean squad mate would have had a greater role or importance than that of a friggin' DLC. That is SO goddam wrong!

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Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Why this character, a FRIGGIN PROHEAN, is DLC... I have no idea. I can't even conceive of a rational reason. And even though I preordered the N7 Edition and I'm gonna get this for free, it still doesn't matter. And it still doesn't make sense. Protheans have been built up, have been praised, have been INTEGRAL to the core plot in two games, three games if what has been revealed so far is any indication. And after all that we can feel rewarded with what, I suppose (<_<), is a Zaeed-like character?

Maybe I'm speaking only for myself (PFF - I doubt it :whistle:), but I would have appreciated - no, no... not after ME1 and the revelations in ME2 (Collectors being protheans an' all) - I would have expected that a prothean squad mate would have had a greater role or importance than that of a friggin' DLC. That is SO goddam wrong!


I agree ,but I guess that the Protheans are going let the all powerful humans get it done.

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I completely agree, 100% even though i will be buying the game and its BS day one DLC.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

 
 ....sigh...


i'm really sorry to have to do this, i really am, after loving this series and its stories and characters i am very sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott of mass effect 3, i love the series and i would probably love mass effect 3 as well but as a consumer, i can't allow this misuse of DLC practice to happen.
i'm okay with day one DLC such as zaeed or shale that were free for people who bought the game new to help reduce the number of used sales and help the developers instead of the retail stores but in this case where only the collector's edition get the DLC included is another beast entirely, instead of promoting new game sales it actually does the opposite as both people with used and new games have to pay for this day one DLC making the used game more enticing to the consumer. this is just shooting yourself in the foot. 


I'm sure you guys and your boycott of ME3 will be just as effective as the boycott of Modern Warfare 2, where like half the boycott group was playing MW2 the day it came out.

But yknow, if you wanna make yourself feel special go ahead and pretend like you arent going to play ME3.

You get a Gold Star!

Modifié par byne, 22 février 2012 - 09:26 .


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nightcobra8928 wrote...

 
 ....sigh...


i'm really sorry to have to do this, i really am, after loving this series and its stories and characters i am very sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott of mass effect 3, i love the series and i would probably love mass effect 3 as well but as a consumer, i can't allow this misuse of DLC practice to happen.
i'm okay with day one DLC such as zaeed or shale that were free for people who bought the game new to help reduce the number of used sales and help the developers instead of the retail stores but in this case where only the collector's edition get the DLC included is another beast entirely, instead of promoting new game sales it actually does the opposite as both people with used and new games have to pay for this day one DLC making the used game more enticing to the consumer. this is just shooting yourself in the foot. 



Oh darn. My entire live revolved around your decision. I'm so glad that's over, now.

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From what I've read he is a very interesting character, and has some great conversations with other characters, but doesn't actually affect the story. At all.

It should still be free for all new copies though. Providing it free is an incentive for gamers to buy the game new. Charging for it gives gamers no incentive. Based on ME1 and ME2, I imagine ME3 will be worth at least £10 more than most games anyway, and I imagine I'll easily be getting £50 worth of content (which is more than can be said for many games) but even so, this should be free to all new copies.

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Stinky Moo wrote...

PROTEON COMPANION VERY IMPORTANT
HE FIGHTS THE EVIR REAPERS AND SAVE GALAXY
JUST RIKE I FIGHT THE NASTY TRORS ATTACKING THIS GRORIOUS COMMUNITY


You used an "L" in "galaxy."

Just pointing that out.

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By virtue of him being a DLC party-member, it means his relevance to the main plot will be minimal, at best.

It doesn't matter that he's a Prothean or not.

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From what I've read he is a very interesting character, and has some great conversations with other characters, but doesn't actually affect the story. At all.

It should still be free for all new copies though. Providing it free is an incentive for gamers to buy the game new. Charging for it gives gamers no incentive. Based on ME1 and ME2, I imagine ME3 will be worth at least £10 more than most games anyway, and I imagine I'll easily be getting £50 worth of content (which is more than can be said for many games) but even so, this should be free to all new copies.


Cannot be more true. well... maybe. Yet this what I have been saying, without all the detail of course.;)

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RiouHotaru wrote...

Kasumi was 10 bucks, did you complain then?


Kasumi wasn't available from DAY ONE as a DLC. Stop with the idiotic comparisons.

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gh0st wh1sp3r wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

 
 ....sigh...


i'm really sorry to have to do this, i really am, after loving this series and its stories and characters i am very sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott of mass effect 3, i love the series and i would probably love mass effect 3 as well but as a consumer, i can't allow this misuse of DLC practice to happen.
i'm okay with day one DLC such as zaeed or shale that were free for people who bought the game new to help reduce the number of used sales and help the developers instead of the retail stores but in this case where only the collector's edition get the DLC included is another beast entirely, instead of promoting new game sales it actually does the opposite as both people with used and new games have to pay for this day one DLC making the used game more enticing to the consumer. this is just shooting yourself in the foot. 



Oh darn. My entire live revolved around your decision. I'm so glad that's over, now.


and yet i'm pretty sure, after the game is released he'll be on here still posting away about the game lol there was a game i didn't like recently, i didn't make some proclamation of boycotting anything, hell not even a post about it, i just left and never looked back:wizard:

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Cicero.me wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

From what I've read he is a very interesting character, and has some great conversations with other characters, but doesn't actually affect the story. At all.

It should still be free for all new copies though. Providing it free is an incentive for gamers to buy the game new. Charging for it gives gamers no incentive. Based on ME1 and ME2, I imagine ME3 will be worth at least £10 more than most games anyway, and I imagine I'll easily be getting £50 worth of content (which is more than can be said for many games) but even so, this should be free to all new copies.


Cannot be more true. well... maybe. Yet this what I have been saying, without all the detail of course.;)

I'm still getting the N7 edition anyway. Based on how much I played ME1 and ME2, this game is going to be worth a little more than the usual price of games. I mean, it should be free to all new games, but £8 is pretty meaningless. Especially seeing as all the stores selling it atm are selling it lower than the RRP.

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Toshir wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kasumi was 10 bucks, did you complain then?


Kasumi wasn't available from DAY ONE as a DLC. Stop with the idiotic comparisons.


So it's the fact the Prothean was done now that bugs you.

So if he'd been done...but they delayed him by a month, would you still be upset?

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This boycott bullsh*t is useless. If you want to hit BioWare and EA where it hurts, buy the game used and don't buy any of the DLC. You still get to have some fun with the game, and they're not making a penny.

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RiouHotaru wrote...

Toshir wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kasumi was 10 bucks, did you complain then?


Kasumi wasn't available from DAY ONE as a DLC. Stop with the idiotic comparisons.


So it's the fact the Prothean was done now that bugs you.

So if he'd been done...but they delayed him by a month, would you still be upset?


If he'd been delayed a month they'd be whining that he wasnt Day 1 DLC. I guarantee it.

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now that i think of it............ heres a thought.



remember how theres already a list of permanent squagmates? what if javik ( yes thats his name) is to be paid for mainly to be apart of your permanent squad?

now i still believe he affects the story even as a npc but it is a thought guys