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[twisty77]

I have the Collector's Edition. So I get him anyway.

No complaints here. I'll throw as much of my money at the screen as I have to to get a complete experience.

[JaegerBane]

DaJe wrote...

Cicero.me wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Refara wrote...

A character that is so important and potentially interesting as a live Prothean, he should be included on the disc, or at least available for new copies of ANY version of the game, like Zaeed.

So what you're saying is DLC should only be boring characters?

A couple of years ago we would have been arguing that live Protheans can't even be in Mass Effect. And now people are arguing that they should be in by default.

Yes. Or do you not agree that protheans have been integral to the plot of both ME1 and ME2.

...scratch that! It doesn't matter if you agree, THEY HAVE!

Thanks for your uni-lateral assertaion that they are important post Mass Effect 1. They are not and neither is Prothy. Are they important to fans? Yes. Thats me included. Important to plot in Mass Effect 3? Ehh, not so much.

Many war assets in ME3 are prothean. The first thing you do after you leave earth is going to the prothean ruins on mars (AFAIK). The collectors are repurposed protheans, a major plot point in ME2. The Reaper invasion would have been drasticly different without the conduit and past prothean influence.
They have always been a crucial part of the series, that is not limited to ME1. Suggesting otherwise shows ignorance for the story.

I agree. If anything, the only way the current species of the galaxy are going to actually defeat the Reapers is likely by relying on something Prothean, given that they're the only species we know of that actually understood Reaper tech from the inside out.

*Really* looking forward to seeing Mars and the Ruins. It'll be like Doom 3 all over again

[Gabey5]

I am getting the vibe he is the last prothean ever, so his insight on the reapers would be a great help. Of course he is integral, probably moreso than any companion we have had to date

[BiO]

twisty77 wrote...

I have the Collector's Edition. So I get him anyway.

No complaints here. I'll throw as much of my money at the screen as I have to to get a complete experience.

You shouldn't. It boggles my mind that you are willing to do so, though.

[nevar00]

The fact that there is a living Prothean damn sure better be important to at the very least the lore of the ME games, and should not be brushed off and removed as a DLC feature.

[Maj.Pain007]

RiouHotaru wrote...

SushiSquid wrote...

Kasumi wasn't a prothean. She also didn't reveal critical backstory that was otherwise unavailable.

Uhhh, I read the script.  NOTHING he reveals is relevant to the Reapers or the cycle of destruction that you wouldn't learn already through the course of the game, according to the leak.

Everything else he says is flavor text.

You just saved me 800 MS points thanks.

[Gabriel S.]

byne wrote...

Now that the Reapers are actually here, finding out what the protheans may have known about them doesnt really matter anymore.

Its not like the protheans had a secret war winning technology stored somewhere, seeing as how they lost.

Reapers are here, protheans are now irrelevant.

They were only relevant in ME2 because they were working for the reapers.

The Reapers have been the main focus of all the Mass Effect games, the protheans were just basically a device used to illustrate how horrible the Reapers are, since we never really got to see any of them in action, except for a short time where we saw Sovereign.

That's a good point but your argument, I dare say, would have been more appropriate if the subject of our discussion was whether or not protheans should have had a role in ME3. For example if BioWare announced that they were done with the protheans and ME3 would have nothing important pertaining to them, and at that point I and several others would come and say 'well, that's not right, they were important in ME1 and ME2 and they should be important in ME3 as well'.

But that's not the point. It's BECAUSE of the way they were presented in ME1 & 2, it's BECAUSE of the established lore and state of events that I'm saying that resurrecting a prothean, making him a DLC character (which considering past experiences is essentially saying "it's no big deal") is stupid.

If the case was that they actually had said what I exampled earlier, then I would have questioned it anyway. Apart from them being, as you said, basically a device, there would have still been some more milking to be done from the mystery that is the prothean species, and if current info is any indication (Mars bunker and such) then the milking of the prothean device continues. Even more reason to say this is stupid, if that suspicion is true.

[Kog27]

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

[JaegerBane]

BiO_MaN wrote...

twisty77 wrote...

I have the Collector's Edition. So I get him anyway.

No complaints here. I'll throw as much of my money at the screen as I have to to get a complete experience.

You shouldn't. It boggles my mind that you are willing to do so, though.

Perhaps not the *complete* experience... but I'll likely get the iOS stuff on top of my CE.

[ploppy54]

Adain878 wrote...

If it turns into a throw away character like zaeed then they are doing a huge disservice to the universe of Mass Effect. I had already decided not to buy the game because of Origin but this just reinforces the point. If anything to do this character justice it needs to be handled like shale was in Dragon Age.
A character that was fully integrated into the plot and was free with all new purchases of the game. Any other way it'll just feel like they are nickel and dimming their fans.

it's comments like this i'm fed up of reading.  if your a true fan then you would be or just have played me1 and me2 back to back and be ready to finish your story of shepard off.  Instead your here slaming the game because of origin or a dlc character! if your not going to buy the game what do you really care if there is a dlc character or not?

[red pies]

hellsjarhead wrote...

 Will the prothean be an important part of the story or will he/she be similar to zaeed and kasumi? I mostly play mass effect for the story as the gameplay is not very good (imo) and I'm curious if I should get the more expensive version of the game that comes with this DLC or if I should stick with getting the standard edition. My initial assumption is that if the companion was important to the story then Bioware would have included him in the game but if someone has a definitive answer it would be appreciated. Thanks

i thought bioware dismissed that claim?

[JaegerBane]

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Denial, I'd guess.

[RiouHotaru]

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

[WolfForce99]

I say yes. He is important to the story. And if he is'nt, I'm still going to get him.

[JaegerBane]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

[RiouHotaru]

JaegerBane wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

Does Shale DO anything that dramatically impacts the plot?

[JaegerBane]

ploppy54 wrote...

Adain878 wrote...

If it turns into a throw away character like zaeed then they are doing a huge disservice to the universe of Mass Effect. I had already decided not to buy the game because of Origin but this just reinforces the point. If anything to do this character justice it needs to be handled like shale was in Dragon Age.
A character that was fully integrated into the plot and was free with all new purchases of the game. Any other way it'll just feel like they are nickel and dimming their fans.

it's comments like this i'm fed up of reading.  if your a true fan then you would be or just have played me1 and me2 back to back and be ready to finish your story of shepard off.  Instead your here slaming the game because of origin or a dlc character! if your not going to buy the game what do you really care if there is a dlc character or not?

So am I, to be honest. I've got support for people who it actually affects but to start going into other threads and repeating the same stuff thats already being mentioned in the main thread is a tad annoying.

[byne]

RiouHotaru wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

Does Shale DO anything that dramatically impacts the plot?

She cleanses Ferelden of the pigeon menace.

[Gabriel S.]

RiouHotaru wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

Does Shale DO anything that dramatically impacts the plot?

Does she need to?

[Mr.House]

JaegerBane wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

Do you need Shale to continue? No.

[HiroVoid]

twisty77 wrote...

I have the Collector's Edition. So I get him anyway.

No complaints here. I'll throw as much of my money at the screen as I have to to get a complete experience.

So does this mean you're going to spend about $800 on ME3 between the figurines and everything else?

[ploppy54]

WolfForce99 wrote...

I say yes. He is important to the story. And if he is'nt, I'm still going to get him.

i agree, however i would just like to know an optimum time to get him i wouldn't want to get some disjointed convos because i haven't completed that part of the story yet etc

[JaegerBane]

byne wrote...

Now that the Reapers are actually here, finding out what the protheans may have known about them doesnt really matter anymore.

Its not like the protheans had a secret war winning technology stored somewhere, seeing as how they lost.

Reapers are here, protheans are now irrelevant.

They were only relevant in ME2 because they were working for the reapers.

The Reapers have been the main focus of all the Mass Effect games, the protheans were just basically a device used to illustrate how horrible the Reapers are, since we never really got to see any of them in action, except for a short time where we saw Sovereign.

I'm not really sure how you can honestly say the Protheans are irrelevant. I mean, they're the only species that ever successfully reverse engineered Mass Relays, so that speaks bounds about what else they were up to... and from this DLC, the only ones you can actually contact that were around during th last Reaper invasion, . The galaxy sure as hell isn't going to be a match for the reapers on their own tech alone.

[Dave of Canada]

He isn't, he's DLC.