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[Reiisha]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Wow, the entitlement in this thread...

What's worse, people having a misplaced sense of entitlement or people looking to exploit their own fans?

[JaegerBane]

Mr.House wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Kog27 wrote...

how the hell is a prothean NOT important to the story?

Because no DLC character has ever been plot-relevant.  This is standard.

Uh..... So when you meet Caridin, he just ignores Shale?

Do you need Shale to continue? No.

You didn't need half your team in ME2 to continue either, you just needed to complete the missions in question.

[tmp7704]

Piling so much hope and significance on the prothean guy simply because he's a prothean makes as much sense as expecting any random person from earth to possess full knowledge of nuclear weapons production and whathaveyou because they're human.

Modifié par tmp7704, 22 février 2012 - 10:37 .

[furryrage59]

I'm amazed anyone is defending this tbh.

A fool and his money are soon parted, seems appropriate.

[Gabriel S.]

tmp7704 wrote...

Piling so much hope and significance on the prothean guy simply because he's a prothean makes as much sense as expecting any random person from earth to possess full knowledge of nuclear weapons production and whathaveyou because they're human.

And that exactly what I think should be happening. This prothean guy is put in stasis or whatever and his the genious who cured prothean cancer. Think of him like you'd think of Shepard's resurrection. LOL, that was ham-fisted.

That's precisely the thing. He's not a random person, or at least it doesn't make much sense that he would be. I think he's supposed to be some important figure in prothean pre-extinction circles. Maybe exactly that - the best scientist. The elite. The guy who invented the anti-Reaper gun. The guy that knew how to destroy the reapers but it was too late for them to do anything so they froze him (though that's obviously not possible since he's a DLC character). Maybe he's the best soldier implanted with the memories of the best scientists and the secret to killing the Reapers. Choosing a soldier for a memory implant makes sense as he would be an "ultimate survivor" type of person. I'm guessing here.


Who would you select to survive extinction? What would that person know? Vigil can answer half that question.

Modifié par Gabriel Stelinski, 22 février 2012 - 10:54 .

[JaegerBane]

furryrage59 wrote...

I'm amazed anyone is defending this tbh.

A fool and his money are soon parted, seems appropriate.

I'm amazed how quickly issues with Bioware's tactics on DLCs end up getting turned into insults to other players.

I'm also amazed that this same drama happens every time a new ME game comes out.

[JaegerBane]

tmp7704 wrote...

Piling so much hope and significance on the prothean guy simply because he's a prothean makes as much sense as expecting any random person from earth to possess full knowledge of nuclear weapons production and whathaveyou because they're human.

One would assume a prothean that was placed into such advanced Stasis that he lasted 50,000 years would have some kind of knowledge that would justify such an undertaking.

I mean, the Protheans on Ilos constitued some the of the greatest minds of their Empire and they didn't even get the same treatment. I hardly think he'll just be some average joe.

[hellsjarhead]

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

[Taleroth]

Reiisha wrote...

people looking to exploit their own fans?

There can be only one Valve.

Everyone else has to make money to survive.

Modifié par Taleroth, 22 février 2012 - 10:48 .

[ref]

To me though, a prothean should be an important character, just all that potential interest wasted on a DLC like Zaeed confuses me.

[I_Jedi]

Taleroth wrote...

Reiisha wrote...

people looking to exploit their own fans?

There can be only one Valve.

Everyone else has to make money to survive.

indeed.

[JaegerBane]

hellsjarhead wrote...

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

Arrival didn't even have the much impact. The only DLC that ever did was LotSB, or so it would seem.

To be honest it comes down to what you define as 'important'. Fully integrated into the story? Likely. Vital to the progression of the story? Almost certainly not.

[hellsjarhead]

JaegerBane wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

Arrival didn't even have the much impact. The only DLC that ever did was LotSB, or so it would seem.

To be honest it comes down to what you define as 'important'. Fully integrated into the story? Likely. Vital to the progression of the story? Almost certainly not.

I didn't really find LOTSB important at all to be honest it seemed like a side quest sort of like bring down the sky although it had some easter egg pieces of information regarding the reapers/collectors. Don't get me wrong I loved shadow broker DLC best yet imo.

[JamieCOTC]

Since we don't know what has been cut and what hasn't, SPOILER WARNING.






At one point he was central to the plot as a McGuffin. Other than that he added backstory and gave Paragon Shep a hard time.

[byne]

hellsjarhead wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

Arrival didn't even have the much impact. The only DLC that ever did was LotSB, or so it would seem.

To be honest it comes down to what you define as 'important'. Fully integrated into the story? Likely. Vital to the progression of the story? Almost certainly not.

I didn't really find LOTSB important at all to be honest it seemed like a side quest sort of like bring down the sky although it had some easter egg pieces of information regarding the reapers/collectors. Don't get me wrong I loved shadow broker DLC best yet imo.

Having your friend and/or lover become one of the most powerful people in the galaxy isnt important?

I guess this Reaper invasion is like a minor annoyance then?

[tmp7704]

JaegerBane wrote...

One would assume a prothean that was placed into such advanced Stasis that he lasted 50,000 years would have some kind of knowledge that would justify such an undertaking.

That's a possibility. But i wouldn't equate being a valuable expert in some field with being valuable expert in everything, and so it's easily possible the person in question has knowledge which isn't really helpful. Or happens to be prothean version of Udina, preserved out of political clout rather than actual merit. Or turns out to be janitor who tripped into the fridge without anyone knowing. Or similarly unqualified person saved this way by their spouse, etc. tldr: assumptions are just that, assumptions.

[hellsjarhead]

I just thought of something thats completely off topic but what kind of DLC will they release for ME3? If its the end of the trilogy how can they continue it with DLC?
Demo Spoiler Warning. maybe?

Maybe why there was such a huge gap between what happened in ME2 and what happens at the start of ME3 is because they plan on releasing DLC that fills the hole between the games like command shepards trial for example.

Modifié par hellsjarhead, 22 février 2012 - 10:57 .

[jhubbard9516]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Next DLC: T-Rexes survived and can now form a battlegroup with the Rachni.

I'd buy that, and it'd be worth every damn penny.

[JaegerBane]

tmp7704 wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

One would assume a prothean that was placed into such advanced Stasis that he lasted 50,000 years would have some kind of knowledge that would justify such an undertaking.

That's a possibility. But i wouldn't equate being a valuable expert in some field with being valuable expert in everything, and so it's easily possible the person in question has knowledge which isn't really helpful. Or happens to be prothean version of Udina, preserved out of political clout rather than actual merit. Or turns out to be janitor who tripped into the fridge without anyone knowing. Or similarly unqualified person saved this way by their spouse, etc. tldr: assumptions are just that, assumptions.

No, but silly assumptions are not the same as logical assumptions. A logical assumption is that if only one member of species as advanced as the Protheans be saved, said member would have some kind of skill or knowledge to justify the effort.

A silly assumption would be that such effort would be squandered on someone by accident, or done for the lolz - at least in so far as assuming they'd bother making a DLC out of such a potential situation.

[Gabriel S.]

tmp7704 wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

One would assume a prothean that was placed into such advanced Stasis that he lasted 50,000 years would have some kind of knowledge that would justify such an undertaking.

That's a possibility. But i wouldn't equate being a valuable expert in some field with being valuable expert in everything, and so it's easily possible the person in question has knowledge which isn't really helpful. Or happens to be prothean version of Udina, preserved out of political clout rather than actual merit. Or turns out to be janitor who tripped into the fridge without anyone knowing. Or similarly unqualified person saved this way by their spouse, etc. tldr: assumptions are just that, assumptions.

Well... dude... if that prothean is a cleaner of the Ilos aquaducts, then From Dust is a bloody joke.

Modifié par Gabriel Stelinski, 22 février 2012 - 11:00 .

[AkiKishi]

hellsjarhead wrote...

I just thought of something thats completely off topic but what kind of DLC will they release for ME3? If its the end of the trilogy how can they continue it with DLC?
Demo Spoiler Warning. maybe?

Maybe why there was such a huge gap between what happened in ME2 and what happens at the start of ME3 is because they plan on releasing DLC that fills the hole between the games like command shepards trial for example.

Someone from Bioware gave the end away in an interview. Lucky for me I was watching with the sound down.

[Taleroth]

JaegerBane wrote...

No, but silly assumptions are not the same as logical assumptions. A logical assumption is that if only one member of species as advanced as the Protheans be saved, said member would have some kind of skill or knowledge to justify the effort.

A silly assumption would be that such effort would be squandered on someone by accident, or done for the lolz - at least in so far as assuming they'd bother making a DLC out of such a potential situation.

Would you really like to know, Bane?

[hellsjarhead]

byne wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

Arrival didn't even have the much impact. The only DLC that ever did was LotSB, or so it would seem.

To be honest it comes down to what you define as 'important'. Fully integrated into the story? Likely. Vital to the progression of the story? Almost certainly not.

I didn't really find LOTSB important at all to be honest it seemed like a side quest sort of like bring down the sky although it had some easter egg pieces of information regarding the reapers/collectors. Don't get me wrong I loved shadow broker DLC best yet imo.

Having your friend and/or lover become one of the most powerful people in the galaxy isnt important?

I guess this Reaper invasion is like a minor annoyance then?

No the reapers are extremly important everything else is a after thought including her becoming a powerful person. Was bring down the sky incredibly important? Hundreds of thousands of lives at stake but it had very little to do with the reapers or the main plot line which is my point when saying LOTSB is not all that important.

[JaegerBane]

hellsjarhead wrote...

byne wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

hellsjarhead wrote...

Thanks for the responses although it seems no one really knows if he's a hugely important part of the story or not lol. My gut tells me that if he was a integral part of the game then he would have been included. No DLC for any mass effect game has really had a huge impact on the story so far except arrival but that came out basically at the end of ME2's life. He's probably just like Zaeed with comments on surroundings and items.

Arrival didn't even have the much impact. The only DLC that ever did was LotSB, or so it would seem.

To be honest it comes down to what you define as 'important'. Fully integrated into the story? Likely. Vital to the progression of the story? Almost certainly not.

I didn't really find LOTSB important at all to be honest it seemed like a side quest sort of like bring down the sky although it had some easter egg pieces of information regarding the reapers/collectors. Don't get me wrong I loved shadow broker DLC best yet imo.

Having your friend and/or lover become one of the most powerful people in the galaxy isnt important?

I guess this Reaper invasion is like a minor annoyance then?

No the reapers are extremly important everything else is a after thought including her becoming a powerful person. Was bring down the sky incredibly important? Hundreds of thousands of lives at stake but it had very little to do with the reapers or the main plot line which is my point when saying LOTSB is not all that important.

I think the point is that the Shadow Broker essentially has the ability to recover info on virtually everything that happens in the galaxy... so putting your friend/lover into that role will undoubtedly help during a Reaper invasion, since knowledge is the one thing that will offer a chance of winning.

[CitizenSnips]

No one is entitled to this character. Buy it or don't buy it but don't claim that a company selling a product for what it feels it's worth is unfair.