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Eclipse_9990 wrote...
I still want to try it out.
chief0390 wrote...
darthnick427 wrote...
Um what the hell are you talking about? it's a non-stop barrage of death!! That assault rifle is glorious!! and has saved my ass many times against phantoms and atlases alike
@darthnick427
I honestly don't know how you like it. It's horrible when shooting at anything that isn't 5 feet in front of you, and a shotgun is more effective at that range anyway. Carrying an Avenger and a Scimitar not only makes you more effective at mid and close range, but it's also rougly the same weight.
How do you like this gun?!
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Xaijin wrote...
chief0390 wrote...
darthnick427 wrote...
Um what the hell are you talking about? it's a non-stop barrage of death!! That assault rifle is glorious!! and has saved my ass many times against phantoms and atlases alike
@darthnick427
I honestly don't know how you like it. It's horrible when shooting at anything that isn't 5 feet in front of you, and a shotgun is more effective at that range anyway. Carrying an Avenger and a Scimitar not only makes you more effective at mid and close range, but it's also rougly the same weight.
How do you like this gun?!
Probably because like me, he doesn't attempt to use it as a sniper rifle or a mattock. The revenant absolutely wrecks ass at close range and above version VI or VII it is a perfectly viable solo vanguard weapon. At X with a high capacity ammo sink and a recoil stability system above V, it will absolutely shred anything at close range including mechs.
It's like people have never actually used it before.
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chief0390 wrote...
A shotgun/avenger combo is the same weight as using the Revenant solo and it makes you twice as effective. I can understand some people might like it if they prefer to play in close and don't engage in ranged combat often. I can see where it might be really good with vangaurds. I just like to be more versatile and effective from all ranges.
Atmosfear3 wrote...
The purpose of the ARs is probably to get max coverage using whatever ammo powers you've equipped. Thats the only explanation as to why their damage is so pitiful.
AngryKrogan777 wrote...
I think Bioware is hellbent on making every AR that isn't the Avenger suck..
chief0390 wrote...
I thought this gun would be better once I used it with my Turian sentinel, because of the buffed weapon stability. I found the results to be slightly less underwhelming than with a human, but still reatively ineffective. Even with the added weapon stability and an assault rifle scope + damage modifier, this gun is outclassed by the Avenger at medium to long distances. The recoil isn't bad, but it's still terribly inaccurate. It doesn't even hit noticeably harder than the Avenger. The only pro is the huge amount of ammo you get with it, and since there are billions of crates laying around, it doesn't really factor in that much. While the Revenant beats out the Avenger in close quarters, you might as well just carry a katana or scimitar. It's more effective in close and carrying one of those shotguns with an Avenger is still roughly the same weight as carrying the Revenant alone!
As a rare unlock, this weapon needs a serious buff. Either more concentrated fire, reduced weight, or higher damage. Something! Anything! This weapon really has no redeeming qualities when you look at its alternatives. There is NO reason to use this weapon. It's a heavy, inaccurate, sponge-shooter and a waste of everyone's time and credits.
Greystone wrote...
Turian sentinel or any soldier on live version of the game built tanky and focusing on team support and suppressive fire with the revenant will be a strong asset to any team.
P.S. Rank 10 Revenant+ rank 10 piercing mod+ rank 10 clip size or damage mod=WINNING?
Greystone wrote...
Turian sentinel or any soldier on live version of the game built tanky and focusing on team support and suppressive fire with the revenant will be a strong asset to any team.
P.S. Rank 10 Revenant+ rank 10 piercing mod+ rank 10 clip size or damage mod=WINNING?
Dethecus09 wrote...
Got a Turian sentinel lvl20, unlocked the Revenant yesterday and tried it with all the possible assault rifle mods (all V). Compared to the Avenger X I got, the Revenant doesn't stand a chance when it comes to killing the enemies quickly. Also can use powers almost twice in the time with Avenger, than with the Revenant.
Imo there is no point using the Revenant atm other than the cool factor, Avenger does the job better and faster, and when upgraded to lvl X, you got +200% recharge speed.
The situation might change in the full game, when you'll be able to upgrade the Revenant to X, but now in the demo, the Revenant simply sucks.
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The Makatak wrote...
chief0390 wrote...
A shotgun/avenger combo is the same weight as using the Revenant solo and it makes you twice as effective. I can understand some people might like it if they prefer to play in close and don't engage in ranged combat often. I can see where it might be really good with vangaurds. I just like to be more versatile and effective from all ranges.
Personal versatility gets left behind for team composition in Silver, and especially Gold, and I'm assuming this will increase exponentially as new enemies are introduced. When people talk about Asari Adepts, they don't talk about the damage of their biotic explosions, which kills tons of people who gather up next to Atlases; they talk about Stasis, because that's group utility; the whole team can bank off of that one ability. That's the easy one; people noticed it a long time ago. But the majority of the people on these threads haven't discovered the intricacies of things like Tech Bursts, armor debuffs, collateral (i.e. bonus) damage explosions.
Consider again that Avenger/Shotgun combo. If you've got a phantom who snuck in to a room with you, which happens often enough on Gold, you'd have to change your weapon, which is precious few seconds while the phantom uses her gorram hand cannon or just impales you; the Avenger won't stagger her with her barriers up. However, the Revenant, which if you're going to carry should be the only weapon you carry, will stagger her before she can kill someone, and at CQC, its hip-firing accuracy is deadly. The Turian Sentinel who packs a Revenant sacrifices his long-distance utility in situations where Engineers, Soldiers, Adepts, and Sniper Infiltrators shine in order to hang back within the group and defend from within. However, because most people train themselves on Bronze, they don't understand group cohesion and run off to the four corners to build their kill ticker, which makes this strategy incredibly difficult to realize in Bronze PUGs.
...In brief, the Revenant Sentinel Turian is for advanced players on advanced difficulties to be brought out in clutch moments, and should only be played by people who look farther down the line at succeeding and surviving as opposed to getting the top score.
chief0390 wrote...
Arppis wrote...
I'm glad they nerfed these guns a bit. Now Avenger can rule SUPEREME!
Once you have a scope, using the Avenger with a Turian is actually pretty good. Doesn't beat out the Mattock still,
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