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Is it just me, or do the human characters suck compared to their alien counterparts?

Débuté par Guest_chief0390_* , févr. 22 2012 08:30

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Alamar2078
Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:19

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Xaijin wrote...

umm human Vanguard, Soldier and Engineer would like a word with you out back.



I agree with the Engineer and IIRC the Vanguard.


IMHO the Human Soldier is a harder class to become "impressive" with than the Krogan Soldier.  I haven't see enough other soldiers to go further with that comparison.

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tomcruisejr
Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:20

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human adept and sentinel are completely pointless to play compared to their alien counterpart.

the rest are fine.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:21

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We unlock them defaulty which may be why you think that but I think every race has its advantages and disadvantages.

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Bravo0o
Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:23

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Human Vanguards...
Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova 

Way better than the Drell

Modifié par Bravo0o, 22 février 2012 - 09:23 .

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:23

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Hansebrous wrote...

Disagree about Salarian Infiltrator.


I guess I should have explained first. I loved my human infiltrator until I unlocked the salarian. I think the Salarian is superior because I find energy drain alone to be better than both of the human's powers. When you can cloak and steal the shields of an enemy, restoring your own, AND remain invisible, it helps getting out of a tight spot better than ANY other class/race combo I've experienced. Because of this, Salarians are more elusive than humans, who have to run away, then decloak to revive their shields. Salarians can do this while cloaked (supposing you picked the right perks) by taking an enemie's shield strength. Cryo Freeze or whatever is nowhere near as useful, in my opinion. I also think the sticky grenade humans get is not as useful as the Salarian's proximity mine, because it is more accurate with the reticle, it only explodes when an enemy is near (so you can leave it as a warning that enemies are coming in an ungaurded area), and it regenerates instead of being limited to 3 (max) uses. Also, if you like using the Widow, Salarians can decrease sniper rifle weight.

The only thing I can give the human is that she seems quicker, more agile. The roll is better than the Salarian's side step when avoiding grenades. However, I don't think that makes up for the power advantage that the Salarian has.

I'm interested to see why people might like the human better. I'm not going to flame anyone if they do, I just want to know why. I'm just curious and want to hear other opinions. NO HATE.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:25

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Bravo0o wrote...

Human Vanguards...
Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova - Chargue - Nova 

Way better than the Drell


pretty much this, + scimitar shotgun :D

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:25

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IElitePredatorI wrote...

We unlock them defaulty which may be why you think that but I think every race has its advantages and disadvantages.


I think they do too. However, in my experience with 3 or so classes, the pro/cons sway in favor of the aliens. Except for vangaurds, in which I hear humans are better.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:26

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I find Human Engineers to be far superior to the aliens, with Overload to wreck Barriers, Shields and Synthetics, Incinerate to decimate Armor and Organics, while still having that little glowing ball of love that is the Combat Drone flanking everything in sight.

I also find Human Vanguards, though I haven't played on in Multiplayer, to be absolute BEASTS. They make my CQC Infiltrator cry. And watching a Salarian cry is not a pretty sight.

*edit:spelling*

Modifié par JumboWheat01, 22 février 2012 - 09:27 .

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Arppis
Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:44

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Vanguards rock. Well, ok Shockfail is pretty bad.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 09:46

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daqs wrote...

Storenumber9 wrote...

What's bad about the Sentinel?

I've had no problem playing one or with others in my group.

The human Sentinel is basically a slightly worse version of the asari Adept. While she has somewhat more survivability than the Adept does, the Sentinel doesn't get as-good of a biotic boost, doesn't have as good of a heavy melee, and doesn't have the ability to drop a stasis bubble on yo'ass.


My human sentinel is specced for survivability, so I usually spend time flanking hordes and taking them out from the side.  I don't usually use my biotic abilities unless I need to in certain situations. 

As for my Turian Sentinel, I don't know. I've only played it once, so I can't tell the difference quite yet. I do like the addition of Overload, though. 

But, I was talking about Sentinels in general, which seemed to be implied by the post.

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jotun04
Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:13

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The Drell Vanguard only gets half as much barrier as the human, for some reason.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:14

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jotun04 wrote...

The Drell Vanguard only gets half as much barrier as the human, for some reason.


Doesn't have Nova too. Quite a big deal for me. :pinched:

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:25

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Xaijin wrote...

umm human Vanguard, Soldier and Engineer would like a word with you out back.


Salarian Engineer is most likely better than Human Engineer. Krogan Soldier is WAY better than human Soldier, and I'm sure Turian Soldier is better as well.

I'm willing to bet that Asari Vanguard is better than Human Vanguard. Stasis Bubble+Charge? God. Damn.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 22 février 2012 - 10:26 .

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:29

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Only the Human Engineer and Vanguard are worth choosing over aliens. And that will change in the full game when the Asari Vanguard and Salarian Engineer are obtainable.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:31

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I prefer the human engineer to the quarian engineer for three reasons, being able to roll side to side, drone, and overload.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:31

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AngryKrogan777 wrote...

Only the Human Engineer and Vanguard are worth choosing over aliens. And that will change in the full game when the Asari Vanguard and Salarian Engineer are obtainable.


Not if they don't change roll canceling for nova. :whistle:



I was testing this on gold haha.

Modifié par SixMachine, 22 février 2012 - 10:32 .

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evilmunky80
Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:35

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FiGhTiNCoWBoY wrote...

I'd say human vanguard and human engineer are superior to their alien counterparts by a longshot. No nova for the alien vanguards and combat drone is pretty epic.


100% agree, the human engineers powers are better than the quarians and the drell vanguard is just way too squishy.

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:36

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The Human Soldier didn't fit my playstyle but, omg, Krogan Soldier is freaking lulz. I can't help charging around head bashing people.

Rock on Krogan battle brothers!

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:37

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SixMachine wrote...

AngryKrogan777 wrote...

Only the Human Engineer and Vanguard are worth choosing over aliens. And that will change in the full game when the Asari Vanguard and Salarian Engineer are obtainable.


Not if they don't change roll canceling for nova. :whistle:



I was testing this on gold haha.

I definitely need to start abusing that on gold. But nova cancelling is still no match for the almighty statis bubble.

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lolspawn
Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:39

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i think im going to stay with human female inf. why? sticky grenades with upgraded dmg destroy atlas's. and i like my roll to the side. salarian dont have that, plus i just think humans look the best..for infiltraitor anyway

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Posté 22 février 2012 - 10:42

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lolspawn wrote...

i think im going to stay with human female inf. why? sticky grenades with upgraded dmg destroy atlas's. and i like my roll to the side. salarian dont have that, plus i just think humans look the best..for infiltraitor anyway


Salarian Infiltrators with a Widow are very effective against atlas' too. I prefer being able to recharge my shields while cloaked than rolling, but then it's a matter of opinion.

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HolyAvenger
Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:33

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Krogan soldier > Human soldier
Asari Adept > Human Adept
Turian sentinel > Human sentinel

Salarian Infiltrator = Human Infiltrator

Human engineer > Quarian engineer
Human vanguard > Drell vanguard

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Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:44

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Human Vanguard is LoLz (Charge --> Nova --> Charge) x infinity

Human Engineer rocks

Human Soldiers doesn't really shine unless you have high level weapons and with some levels. Human Soldiers make a much better low weight weapon specialist than Krogan Soldier -- Krogan Soldier is basically begging to be played high weight with emphasis on Passive + Melee.

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Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:58

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The Human Soldier and Infiltrator have a tech combo between them - if the infiltrator freezes a victim with cryo blast, the soldier can pop it with concussive shot for a "Cryo Explosion" which is like a Tech Burst or Biotic Explosion.

The Krogan and Salarian, by contrast, are fairly self-sufficient. (Energy drain can be a part of tech burst combos, but it's useful enough on its own.) If you're quick matching they're nigh-certain to outperform their co-ordination dependent peers.

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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:07

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01d55 wrote...
The Human Soldier and Infiltrator have a tech combo between them - if the infiltrator freezes a victim with cryo blast, the soldier can pop it with concussive shot for a "Cryo Explosion" which is like a Tech Burst or Biotic Explosion.


I think that actually works with overload as well. I remember playing a match with a Turian Sentinel and noticing random tech bursts whenever I was concussive shot spamming -- But i thought that was just my imagination.

Pretty cool if both cases are true. :wizard:

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