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[android654]

Elton John is dead wrote...

android654 wrote...

Jacob was Kaidan's replacement and he's replacing Jacob.

Kaidan is secretly gay though...

Kaidan: Hey Shepard.

Shepard. Yeah?

Kaidan: Pull my finger.

Shepard: Ummm...okay.

*Pulls Kaidan's finger*

Kaidan: I'M GAY!

Shepard o_O

Kaidan :-D

Shepard :|

Umm... Okay?

[RetroActiv]

mrsph wrote...

How long before this thread becomes a thread about race?

Too late.

Mentioning race in a thread!? *gasps* Brought up by a guy who happens to be white no less. Who'd a thunk it? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie] It usually only becomes a in issue when people start getting overly defensive. Don't worry I'm not trying to make this a thread about that. I was just giving my opinion.

[PinkDiamondstl]

mrsph wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

He still has the best male body in mass effect

Well, his only competition in Mass Effect 2 is a bird monster and a frog monster. Pretty easy to win that contest.

LOL! Sad but very true..

[Cazlee]

Garrus is more like a coc|<roach.

[android654]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Cazlee wrote...

Garrus is more like a coc|<roach.

BSN doesn't censor "cockroach"; you don't need to do that.

Maybe they meant he's an insect who's a d**khead.

[Eragondragonrider]

I really didn't connect with any of the ME2 character but Tali, Grunt and Laira after LotSB. Now I wouldn't mind Jacob in ME3 as long I have a bar on the Normandy and we can kick back and drink and BS about Mira fake body but that's about it.

[Treopod]

Hadeedak wrote...

Jacob got in trouble because Hale sounded pretty flirty talking to him, and I agree the other kicker was his competition for male love interests. Garrus and Thane are a rough lineup to go against, even if you happen to be the most good looking man in the Mass Effect franchise (which Jacob is, IMO).

id say the primary reason jacob isnt as popular as the other male love interests in ME, is because his face is very unattractive, to be honest i think most women who play this game find jacob to be the worst looking guy in mass effect, im sorry but his character model is simply ugly, and he also got messed up teeth.

i mean, Kaidan and Vega are much better looking guys than Jacob, and so is male shepard. Thane and Garrus are aliens which alone makes them more interesting to a lot of people, and they are also more fleshed out in terms of story and background.

Modifié par Treopod, 23 février 2012 - 01:24 .

[PauseforEffect]

Cazlee wrote...

Garrus is more like a coc|<roach.

I always thought turians looked more like reptilian felines. Lizard Cats!

Back onto Jacob's romance, it'd be a shame for those who romanced him to not have the relationship culminate in ME3. Bioware made some big promises and they would not hear the end of it if they welched on their fans in this respect.
Personally, I never wanted to romance him because:
1. I was playing an Akuze Shepard and Jacob was a Cerberus member
2. I barely knew the guy at the time so hitting on him was a very quick turn-off
3. Shepard already had a crush on someone else

[RetroActiv]

Treopod wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

Jacob got in trouble because Hale sounded pretty flirty talking to him, and I agree the other kicker was his competition for male love interests. Garrus and Thane are a rough lineup to go against, even if you happen to be the most good looking man in the Mass Effect franchise (which Jacob is, IMO).

id say the primary reason jacob isnt as popular as the other male love interests in ME, is because his face is very unattractive, to be honest i think most women who play this game find jacob to be the worst looking guy in mass effect, im sorry but his character model is simply ugly, and he also got messed up teeth.

i mean, Kaidan and Vega are much better looking guys than Jacob, and so is male shepard. Thane and Garrus are aliens which alone makes them more interesting to a lot of people, and they are also more fleshed out in terms of story and background.

You think he's uglier than Garrus? Man that's pretty harsh. lol!

[Treopod]

RetroActiv wrote...

Treopod wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

Jacob got in trouble because Hale sounded pretty flirty talking to him, and I agree the other kicker was his competition for male love interests. Garrus and Thane are a rough lineup to go against, even if you happen to be the most good looking man in the Mass Effect franchise (which Jacob is, IMO).

id say the primary reason jacob isnt as popular as the other male love interests in ME, is because his face is very unattractive, to be honest i think most women who play this game find jacob to be the worst looking guy in mass effect, im sorry but his character model is simply ugly, and he also got messed up teeth.

i mean, Kaidan and Vega are much better looking guys than Jacob, and so is male shepard. Thane and Garrus are aliens which alone makes them more interesting to a lot of people, and they are also more fleshed out in terms of story and background.

You think he's uglier than Garrus? Man that's pretty harsh. lol!

lol i meant in comparison to the other human males in ME, comparing humans to aliens would be like comparing them to lizards or something, so while i dont think garrus is ugly, i fully expect that every female that romances him does it for the personaliy and not because of his appearance.

But with the human characters, looks is probably a bigger factor. which would partly explain Jacobs lack of popularity, then again he doesnt have much of a personality either so there is not much going for him.

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I don't think it has anything to do with looks.

Going by Mass Effect 2 alone (assuming you haven't played the iOS game - which I haven't), Jacob starts off a nice and very ''play it safe'' kinda personality, the sorta guy everyone would be like yeah he's ok and get on well with. You're also given the impression that he's stood up for what he believes in, in the past but you don't really see any examples of that in the actual game.

Instead it seems his character doesn't really develop much and there are random out of character instances where he is aggressive towards a character like Thane, for no real good reason other than ''he's an assassin''. This eventually leads to people like my friend who are less familar with the universe just thinking he's a bit of a ''d*ck''

Then you have the factor that femshep comes off a bit flirty with him if you are playing as her, it feels like it from the start - I noticed this too (that I know some people don't like)

Then you have the factor that Jacobs skills aren't all that exciting / useful. I know for myself he quickly gets replaced by other squad mates and often doesn't get used after Freedoms Progress outside of his personal quest.

His personal quest I enjoyed and I enjoyed the male dialog with him after (haven't seen the female end dialog). Of course I didn't find it as emotionally touching as Miranda or Jack's or imo the best, Tali's quest. But I definately enjoyed it.

[Treopod]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

I don't think it has anything to do with looks.

Going by Mass Effect 2 alone (assuming you haven't played the iOS game - which I haven't), Jacob starts off a nice and very ''play it safe'' kinda personality, the sorta guy everyone would be like yeah he's ok and get on well with. You're also given the impression that he's stood up for what he believes in, in the past but you don't really see any examples of that in the actual game.

Instead it seems his character doesn't really develop much and there are random out of character instances where he is aggressive towards a character like Thane, for no real good reason other than ''he's an assassin''. This eventually leads to people like my friend who are less familar with the universe just thinking he's a bit of a ''d*ck''

Then you have the factor that femshep comes off a bit flirty with him if you are playing as her, it feels like it from the start - I noticed this too (that I know some people don't like)

Then you have the factor that Jacobs skills aren't all that exciting / useful. I know for myself he quickly gets replaced by other squad mates and often doesn't get used after Freedoms Progress outside of his personal quest.

His personal quest I enjoyed and I enjoyed the male dialog with him after (haven't seen the female end dialog). Of course I didn't find it as emotionally touching as Miranda or Jack's or imo the best, Tali's quest. But I definately enjoyed it.

your reasons for jacobs lack of popularity seems more tied to male players or people who just want to play through the game, for females who are heavily into the romance part of the game im sure looks is a big factor as well, in
addition to some of the factors you mentioned.

[J-Reyno]

Treopod wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

Jacob got in trouble because Hale sounded pretty flirty talking to him, and I agree the other kicker was his competition for male love interests. Garrus and Thane are a rough lineup to go against, even if you happen to be the most good looking man in the Mass Effect franchise (which Jacob is, IMO).

id say the primary reason jacob isnt as popular as the other male love interests in ME, is because his face is very unattractive, to be honest i think most women who play this game find jacob to be the worst looking guy in mass effect, im sorry but his character model is simply ugly, and he also got messed up teeth.

i mean, Kaidan and Vega are much better looking guys than Jacob, and so is male shepard. Thane and Garrus are aliens which alone makes them more interesting to a lot of people, and they are also more fleshed out in terms of story and background.

I agree with this fully, I mean to me it seems like the obvious.  I didn't find either Jacob OR Thane to be particularly interesting characters but at least Thane was a cool looking alien - he's like a novelty.  Jacob looks like Kanye West.  Not sure who thought that was a good idea.  Sure, to some Jacob was attractive but he doesn't have that general appeal the other human LIs have.  I bet if he looked like Tyson Beckford he'd be infinitely more popular.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Jacob looks like Kenyon Glover.

And it definitely isn't his looks. He looks fine.

[mineralica]

RetroActiv wrote...

Treopod wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

Jacob got in trouble because Hale sounded pretty flirty talking to him, and I agree the other kicker was his competition for male love interests. Garrus and Thane are a rough lineup to go against, even if you happen to be the most good looking man in the Mass Effect franchise (which Jacob is, IMO).

id say the primary reason jacob isnt as popular as the other male love interests in ME, is because his face is very unattractive, to be honest i think most women who play this game find jacob to be the worst looking guy in mass effect, im sorry but his character model is simply ugly, and he also got messed up teeth.

i mean, Kaidan and Vega are much better looking guys than Jacob, and so is male shepard. Thane and Garrus are aliens which alone makes them more interesting to a lot of people, and they are also more fleshed out in terms of story and background.

You think he's uglier than Garrus? Man that's pretty harsh. lol!

Uncanny valley? And don't forget that teeth... goodness that Miranda and Liara, who have similar problem, show them far less often.

[Treopod]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Jacob looks like Kenyon Glover.

And it definitely isn't his looks. He looks fine.

id say Jacobs unattractive looks is definitely part of the reason, most people are to nice to say it openly though.

[Soundsystem]

I know I dislike Jacob because I found him bland. He's nice, but just.. not much else due to lack of character development. Additionally, I dislike how he was handled by I play FemShep's and it's basically impossible to talk to him with FemShep (especially a paragon) and not have her being all sexy with the flirty voice and all "MY BODY IS READY" with the body language. I resented my Shepard being forced to act so out of character since I never romanced Jacob.

Finally his terrible dialogue was the nail in the coffin. "But the priiiiiiiiiiiize" is the worst line of dialogue in the whole series.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Treopod wrote...

id say Jacobs unattractive looks is definitely part of the reason, most people are to nice to say it openly though.

Not for me, then. I don't find him particularly attractive (nor do I any of the characters), but I don't find him hideous like I do Thane. Even if his mouth does animate weirdly.

Still, if it were mainly looks, I doubt Garrus would be so popular. Vega looks like an angry gorilla, but people are still all over that.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 23 février 2012 - 07:40 .

[Hadeedak]

I still think he's the most attractive out of the Mass Effect men. It's just personalitywise and lineswise, he falls kind of flat, especially when lined up against Kaidan (total sweetheart), Garrus (your best friend, adorkable), Liara (geek girl with a big gun,) and Thane (womanbait, top to bottom).

"Of course that's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around".

[PrinceLionheart]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Treopod wrote...

id say Jacobs unattractive looks is definitely part of the reason, most people are to nice to say it openly though.

Not for me, then. I don't find him particularly attractive (nor do I any of the characters), but I don't find him hideous like I do Thane. Even if his mouth does animate weirdly.

Still, if it were mainly looks, I doubt Garrus would be so popular. Vega looks like an angry gorilla, but people are still all over that.

Just wait two weeks and the James Vega hate parade will start marching through this place. 

Hadeedak wrote...

I still think he's the most attractive out of the Mass Effect men. It's just personalitywise and lineswise, he falls kind of flat, especially when lined up against Kaidan (total sweetheart), Garrus (your best friend, adorkable), Liara (geek girl with a big gun,) and Thane (womanbait, top to bottom).

"Of course that's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around".

 

I think Jacob's biggest flaw was that Bioware went far a beyond trying to make him come off as too unoffensive. Save for being confrontational with Thane, he was too reserved. It was like they were trying to make Jacob the "Anti-Kaidan" but ended up with the same fan response.

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 23 février 2012 - 09:06 .

[Mhorhe83]

Bland, boring, lack of any real insight into his character, occasionally annoying dialogue ("we'll get loooud, and spill some drinks on the Citadel"), one of the less(least?) useful characters gameplay wise.. Take your pick

The only demi-interesting thing about him was his loyalty mission.. and the only reason that was interesting was because of the nature of what's going on there. Had nothing to do with Jacob or his life.

That's from a male Shep point of view. Never played any FemSheps.

[JasonDaPsycho]

Wow some of you actually take race (a social construct with no real meaning whatsoever) and looks into consideration. He's less relatable not because he's skin tone is black, but rather there's nothing remotely interesting about him (in my humble opinion).

Yea, I get it. He has some daddy issues, but that was not (organically) elaborated upon. It was just a case of, "Hey, Shepard. Guess what. I have a dad who left me long ago and I heard he's alive. Have time to check him out?" He had a history with Miranda, which I didn't really care about. They were an item before but so what? He served the Alliance but jumped ship to Cerberus, and that concerns me how? Jacob is just that generic soldier you see in the background of movies - good enough for a few lines but not enough for character development.

I'm not saying Bioware suck for this or anything. In a game this big, there bound to be some flaws here and there. Given how many more other characters there are, this flaw can be overlooked, by me at least. I won't understand why people love Jacob, but I certainly don't see any harm in that and I can totally respect them loving Jacob. It's just me.

Edit:
And no, I don't hate Jacob. It's just that, again in my opinion, there's nothing likable about him.

Modifié par JasonDaPsycho, 23 février 2012 - 10:31 .

[Mhorhe83]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...
And no, I don't hate Jacob. It's just that, again in my opinion, there's nothing likable about him.

I think that sums it up best.