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[BENIICHAT]

elearon1 wrote...

Kaiden: "Sorry Shepard, I'm the ranking officer here, I'm in charge."

Femshep: BLAM "Anyone else wanna be in charge?"

Kaidan: "Sorry Shepard, I'm the ranking officer here, I'm in charge
MaleShep : Ok Kaidan. If you allow me to in Charge Your's heart.

[CerberusSoldier]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Traditionally, the commanding officer of a ship is the captain.

It is sometimes referred to as positional authority and it is common to see a commander as the commanding officer of smaller warships. Even when a higher ranking officer is aboard, the commanding officer is still the one in charge of the vessel and its crew with the same authority and responsibilities on that vessel as a full captain as on larger warships.

  


Shepard is the Captain

[BiO]

X-Frame wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Who was in charge during Shepard's absence

Between ME2 and ME3, the Normandy was taken back by the Alliance, retrofitted (hence the changes you'll see on board) and was under the control of Admiral Anderson.

"Taken back"?

But the SR2 is a Cerberus vessel, not an Alliance one. Built was scratch IIRC. So the Alliance basically steals the SR2 because the SR1 is scrap metal in space somewhere .. am I wrong?

Yeah, but Cerberus steals all the design schematics from various species (mainly Alliance), as well, right?

[lucidfox]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Between ME2 and ME3, the Normandy was taken back by the Alliance, retrofitted (hence the changes you'll see on board) and was under the control of Admiral Anderson.

What do you mean, taken back? The Alliance never owned the SR-2 in the first place - it was a private ship built by Cerberus.

[staindgrey]

While Gears and ME shouldn't really be compared story-wise, their situations and matters of rank compare.

In Gears 3, Fenix is the top dawg. He's outranked by half the characters you run into. He leads despite Anya and Dom both outranking him. He's an equal with the former Chief of Defense Staff and Colonel (though acting as a General for nearly a decade). He even talks back to the Chairman of the entire COG. Why?

Because **** has hit the fan. Civilization is almost gone, whole continents are lost, and all that matters is survival. Nobody's going to pull an on-paper rank when the leadership qualities are clearly in a lower-ranking Sergeant. This isn't to say that Major Kaiden lacks leadership qualities; it's to say that Shepard has that 'umph' that no one else does. He's the commander of this crew. He's the one who fought Saren and saved the Citadel. He's the one who's been singled out by the Reapers themselves as a threat.

There is no way that crew would respect and follow Kaiden in the same way they would Shepard. TIM put it best in deeming Shepard as more than "just a man". And that goes for the other races they're trying to recruit; who do you think they'd be more persuaded by, the savior of the Citadel or Major Kaiden Alenko?

The Reapers are here. The technicalities of military order mean less with every world attacked.

[andy6915]

lucidfox wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Between ME2 and ME3, the Normandy was taken back by the Alliance, retrofitted (hence the changes you'll see on board) and was under the control of Admiral Anderson.

What do you mean, taken back? The Alliance never owned the SR-2 in the first place - it was a private ship built by Cerberus.

Using Alliance copyrighted blueprints and schematics you mean. Only the Alliance has the patent to use Normandy designs. If you take a video game, and take an exact rip of its copyrighted data on the disk, and make it from scratch yourself using that data, who owns it? Hint- not you. The one that owns the copyright own it for reproduction, not you. Just because Cerberus made their own Normandy doesn't make it theirs anymore then a game you copy is yours. At the end of the day, the Alliance are the ones that actually own the Normandy, any Normandy, and Cerberus has absolutely no legal right whatsoever to it. In both cases, you don't own the game you copied, and Cerberus doesn't own the ship the copied.

Understand copyright and ownership, and you won't be confused.

NOTE-Bioware, I'm not telling anyone to pirate, and am in fact making it clear that doing so is 100% theft. This is a very much an anti-piracy post. I was just using the best example I could think of to show that making something doesn't mean owning it when there is copyright involved.

Modifié par andy69156915, 23 février 2012 - 11:05 .

[Clearly Balkan]

JorSpec2012 wrote...

I have the Art Of Mass Effect Universe book,and have to say but Ash have a mighty fine ass!

:innocent:

[Clearly Balkan]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Who was in charge during Shepard's absence

Between ME2 and ME3, the Normandy was taken back by the Alliance, retrofitted (hence the changes you'll see on board) and was under the control of Admiral Anderson.

Cool. Thanks Chris.

Looking forward enjoying my new retrofitted baby. 

[JorSpec2012]

Same here,as long as they me keep my fish.Those fish are expensive!

[Haasth]

Kaidan.
Then one night I throw him out of the airlock, blame it on Grunt and shoot him.

The perfect crime.

[StarcloudSWG]

I hope it was refitted, not retrofitted.

[Perkocet13]

I always kill off Kaiden in ME1, so then there is no possible way of him outranking shepard

[CROAT_56]

@ Chris you might not be able to answer me but with say Kaiden surviving Virmire couldn't there b a conflict of rank on board?

[Legendaryred]

CROAT_56 wrote...

@ Chris you might not be able to answer me but with say Kaiden surviving Virmire couldn't there b a conflict of rank on board?

No because Shepard is still either Spectre or the Captain of the SR2. Even ash or kaidan were in charge, who would follow those emotional humans?

[CROAT_56]

lol I guess but still Ash or kaiden are now SPECTREs now to apparently so that is mainly why I ask

[Legendaryred]

CROAT_56 wrote...

lol I guess but still Ash or kaiden are now SPECTREs now to apparently so that is mainly why I ask

They're what!??! Really i didn't knew, where does it say that?

[CROAT_56]

screen caps show there armor with a SPECTRE logo on them since I don't know how to post pics can someone do it for me thanks.

[Legendaryred]

CROAT_56 wrote...

screen caps show there armor with a SPECTRE logo on them since I don't know how to post pics can someone do it for me thanks.

Yea just looked at them, sucks that they get to become spectre so easily when all the trouble you had to go through. Plus i think they make horrible spectres (failing to see the big pic in ME2). Anyway im getting off topic, but yea shepard is the one everyone follows so even without rank he/she in charge.

[CROAT_56]

well Shepard can claim they went rogue and shoot them if he really wanted lol hasnt stopped him before.

[CAP198462]

 Oh there's more, in Mass Effect Shepard makes clear She/he is an Alliance Marine. Yet she holds the Navy style grade of Commander (CDR), which is odd. it is even odder for a Marine to command a Naval vessel, normally in such cases there are two Captains, a Naval one in charge of the ship's course and tactics in battle, and a Marine who commands the crew. Then in Mass Effect 2 Shepard is in the Alliance Navy, with the same grade. It's not unusual for a CO to hold a relatively low grade like Commander, it happens all the time in Submarines and other ships like them.  In Mass Effect 3 Kaiden is a Major, but a Marine, so that fits that he does not command. Ashley is a LtCdr, not a commander, so she does not outrank Shepard. Furthermore, one assumes that since every modern Navy has a commander's course before officers are eligible to captain a ship, it is possible that the Alliance does too and Ashley has not completed it. It is just military tradition to shorten grades like Lieutenant Colonel and Lieutenant Commander to Commander in conversation. Then in the final battle Hackett takes command of the Normandy, which is within his rights as Admiral, but Naval tradition dictates that he keep the ship's captain aboard. SO, how does Shepard go from Marine to Navy without a reduction in grade, and why does Hackett buck tradition in the end battle?