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[Chun Hei]

[Chrillze]

A4RiZ0812 wrote...

I think its more to do with EA, not bioware.
If your not happy, don't buy it. Simple. Dont start whining, since its their product and they can do what they like quite frankly. Money comes first in any business, customers come second no matter what they say..
Your just spewing out what the guy on youtube posted. To a point I agree what he said but every major game is doing it now, just going to have to live with it.

I hate EA but only buying this game because im hooked on the multiplayer which isnt even that great but as i can afford it, im buying it. Plus not interested in any game out there at the mo. For the record will not be purchasing a single dlc, not even sure if i'll bother wasting my time on single player to be honest

Please name a big game studio that takes out a MAJOR part of the game and sells it as day1 DLC. I understand that they don't want people to buy it second hand but why can't they do the same thing that they did with Mass Effect 2 where if you bought a new copy you would get Zaeed for FREE.

[Chrillze]

I don't have a problem with day1 DLC as long as its just a piece of armor or a weapon or some alternative squad skins but a squadmate that is a big part of the story, that i have a problem with

[Ryzaki]

mrbauxjangles wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

You get a 30+ hour shooter RPG for $60. You do NOT need the DLC to play, enjoy or beat the game. He is extra and his very existence could violate established game lore. If you hate it so much wait 18 months for the GOTY edition that will cost $30 and have all the DLCs for included.

I just don't get why people think they are entitled to anything but the game itself.

Thing is the DLC is part of the game it was made during the development cycle which means it is part of the main game and the Squadmate is a major piece in the story

Nope it's even more pathetic.

He WAS a main part of the story but they rewrote him to be practically insignificant so they could sell him as DLC.

[TeamLexana]

Chun Hei wrote...

Bwhahahaha!

[Homebound]

u know it wouldve been perfectly fine if prothy was like a zaeed dlc where u got him for purchasing the game new.

this...this is just nickel-and-diming tactics.

[dannybates]

TotalBiscuit did a video on this you should watch it.

[mrbauxjangles]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

mrbauxjangles wrote...

If this is made during the development cycle they should not be charging extra. Day one DLC is terrible basically they are selling you an incomplete product and making you pay extra to make it the full game

DLC team always exist even if the game just started. Deal with it because you seem not to know how things go while I do.

Whether or not there is a DLC team is beyond the point. The character is IN THE GAME from day 1. You just cannot access him fully at all (even though he is in the game from day 1) unless you pay $10 on top of the over priced $60 as it is. SO you are paying $60 for a game with half a feature in it and then $10 to UNLOCK, and I do say unlock not DOWNLOAD but unlock from the disk, said feature

[Mr.House]

Bioware did it with Shale, Zaeed and Seb. Are people really surprised by this?

[Taleroth]

Ryzaki wrote...


He WAS a main part of the story but they rewrote him to be practically insignificant so they could sell him as DLC. 

This is far from the first time an important character in an early draft got cut or downsized. See Legion, who was practically the first reveal for ME2, and ended up getting only a token role. All while still not being DLC. He still has dialogue for tons of stuff he can't be present for without modifying the game.

Modifié par Taleroth, 22 février 2012 - 10:33 .

[Chrillze]

Zaeed was free if you bought the game as a new copy, I don't know about Shale or Sebastian but a talking stone golem doesn't feel as important to the story as a living prothean

[What a Succulent Ass]

You really think that's going to happen, OP?

[GipsyDangeresque]

mrbauxjangles wrote...

Whether or not there is a DLC team is beyond the point. The character is IN THE GAME from day 1. You just cannot access him fully at all (even though he is in the game from day 1) unless you pay $10 on top of the over priced $60 as it is. SO you are paying $60 for a game with half a feature in it and then $10 to UNLOCK, and I do say unlock not DOWNLOAD but unlock from the disk, said feature

Bull****, a little bit of him is in the game. You have to download at least a hundred megabytes of more content, content that Bioware has still been hard at work on far after the ME3 Gold deadline.

Modifié par Atemeus, 22 février 2012 - 10:32 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Atemeus wrote...

mrbauxjangles wrote...

Whether or not there is a DLC team is beyond the point. The character is IN THE GAME from day 1. You just cannot access him fully at all (even though he is in the game from day 1) unless you pay $10 on top of the over priced $60 as it is. SO you are paying $60 for a game with half a feature in it and then $10 to UNLOCK, and I do say unlock not DOWNLOAD but unlock from the disk, said feature

Bull****, a little bit of him is in the game. You have to download at least a hundred megabytes of more content, content that Bioware has still been hard at work on far after the ME3 Gold deadline.

It's actually 600+ MBs.

[Ryzaki]

Taleroth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


He WAS a main part of the story but they rewrote him to be practically insignificant so they could sell him as DLC. 

This is far from the first time an important character in an early draft got cut or downsized. See Legion, who was practically the first reveal for ME2, and ended up getting only a token role. All while still not being DLC.

Yeah Legion wasn't made into DLC (and actually he still is pretty important to the Quarian/Geth story. By no means is he throwaway).

Plus...are there old drafts in the script where Legion's heavily plot relevant? Does he provide intel on how to stop the collectors?

As for the dialogue he can't be present for...most characters actually have that. It's a leftover from when you could possibly recruit anyone in any order. (like Tali, Samara and Thane having dialogue during Garrus/Jack/Grunt/Mordin recruitment).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 février 2012 - 10:36 .

[mrbauxjangles]

Atemeus wrote...

mrbauxjangles wrote...

Whether or not there is a DLC team is beyond the point. The character is IN THE GAME from day 1. You just cannot access him fully at all (even though he is in the game from day 1) unless you pay $10 on top of the over priced $60 as it is. SO you are paying $60 for a game with half a feature in it and then $10 to UNLOCK, and I do say unlock not DOWNLOAD but unlock from the disk, said feature

Bull****, a little bit of him is in the game. You have to download at least a hundred megabytes of more content, content that Bioware has still been hard at work on far after the ME3 Gold deadline.

Ha hard at work after gold deadline it has been gold for what maybe a week yet it has been leaked on xbox marketplace it is done

[GipsyDangeresque]

izmirtheastarach wrote...


It's actually 600+ MBs.

Jesus Christ. Enkindlers!

Well, my point goes that much further, then. Day-One DLC is NOT content cut from a video game. If you cannot comprehend that, you are ignorant. That is the end of the line.

[heart again]

Everyone knew months and months ago that the CE would come with a character and mission pack. Many knew who that character was likely to be. Crying about it now is flat out idiotic. Glad I got the CE and people who didn't should be glad they can access the previously exclusive character at all.

Modifié par heart again, 22 février 2012 - 10:37 .

[Taleroth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


He WAS a main part of the story but they rewrote him to be practically insignificant so they could sell him as DLC. 

This is far from the first time an important character in an early draft got cut or downsized. See Legion, who was practically the first reveal for ME2, and ended up getting only a token role. All while still not being DLC.

Yeah Legion wasn't made into DLC (and actually he still is pretty important to the Quarian/Geth story. By no means is he throwaway).

Legion is still far less used than he should be. He would have been better off as DLC, because it means I could have gotten him right at the start.

As for the dialogue he can't be present for...most characters actually have that. It's a leftover from when you could possibly recruit everyone in any order.

That's the point. Legion has dialogue and materials left over from earlier builds. So does the Prothean. The distinction between "cut because of a design or technical change" and "cut because they're greedy bleeps who wanted to steal $10" is petty and arbitrary.

Modifié par Taleroth, 22 février 2012 - 10:37 .

[Razorsedge820]

Get something for free when it already has a price? lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
Yeah while your at it go to a pizza store and demand an entire pie for free because they only gave you the two slices you paid for.

If you don't like it don't buy it, simple. I can understand why people would get upset that this isn't included in the the full game but Bioware/EA can do what they want it's their business.

What I don't get is why people are suddenly surprised about this, it has already been mentioned months ago that the CE will get an exclusive character and mission so that obviously meant the standard edition buyers would have to pay extra for it.

Also I agree that if this DLC is made free (which I highly doubt) I want a full refund on my N7 edition.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 22 février 2012 - 10:40 .

[mrbauxjangles]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

mrbauxjangles wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

mrbauxjangles wrote...

If this is made during the development cycle they should not be charging extra. Day one DLC is terrible basically they are selling you an incomplete product and making you pay extra to make it the full game

DLC team always exist even if the game just started. Deal with it because you seem not to know how things go while I do.

Whether or not there is a DLC team is beyond the point. The character is IN THE GAME from day 1. You just cannot access him fully at all (even though he is in the game from day 1) unless you pay $10 on top of the over priced $60 as it is. SO you are paying $60 for a game with half a feature in it and then $10 to UNLOCK, and I do say unlock not DOWNLOAD but unlock from the disk, said feature

Oh so we are not even talking about how they do DLC anymore it's only about the price of it ?... Buhuhu little peasant cry and give me all your money. 

By the way it's not in the game. The DLC is 600Mo+. 

I paid for it. You didn't. Deal with it. 

You paid for DLC for a game that isn't even out yet do you see where that makes no sense.

[Chrillze]

It is either content that they have cut from the game or content that they have worked on on the side of the normal game and could easily have put in to the original game, either way it is unethical and calling someone ignorant just makes they don't share the same opinion as you is in my not so humble opinion even more ignorant and shows that you don't have any real arguments what-so-ever