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[King Cousland]

 Have read the first edition and give it a 7/10. Sets the stage pretty well though I was annoyed that there was no explanation for Alsitair joining up with Isabela and Varric. I assume we'll get an explanation later, though I couldn't think of three more random people to go on an adventure together. What piqued my interest the most however was Antiva, and Claudio Valisti. Prince Claudio, should I say (I assume of Antiva). Who is he exactly, what is his connection with the Crows and what does he have to do with Alistair?

[Blacklash93]

Varric and Isabela showing up together isn't far-fetched at all. They're good friends.

How they joined up with Alistair would be worth explaining, however.

[King Cousland]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Varric and Isabela showing up together isn't far-fetched at all. They're good friends.

How they joined up with Alistair would be worth explaining, however.

Forgive my clumsy wording. I meant what you said. 

[Augustei]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Varric and Isabela showing up together isn't far-fetched at all. They're good friends.

How they joined up with Alistair would be worth explaining, however.

Zevran probably put Alistair in contact with Isabela the way he put him in contact with Claudio. Zevran to busy to help Alistair out knew Izzy could, they've met before at the pearl anyway. Isabela would know something about Antiva im guessing though due to her dealings with the Felicissima Armada

[Maria13]

Well Alistair and Isabela potentially met in DA1. They may even have had sex with each other as part of a threesome with the warden. Isabela explains that Claudio was an associate of her former husband whom she hired Zev to kill. I can't see there is a problem here.

Modifié par Maria13, 23 février 2012 - 05:28 .

[Huntress]

harkness72 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Varric and Isabela showing up together isn't far-fetched at all. They're good friends.

How they joined up with Alistair would be worth explaining, however.

Forgive my clumsy wording. I meant what you said. 

Isabela and Alistair meet at the pearl, varric and Isabela are very good friends. I havent read it, cant get the page is bussy.. Did they ( Alistair, Isabela, varric) arrive to Antiva by Boat?
Isabela has been in Antiva before thats where she meet Zev.( I think)

Modifié par Huntress, 23 février 2012 - 06:52 .

[King Cousland]

Huntress wrote...

harkness72 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Varric and Isabela showing up together isn't far-fetched at all. They're good friends.

How they joined up with Alistair would be worth explaining, however.

Forgive my clumsy wording. I meant what you said. 

Isabela and Alistair meet at the pearl, varric and Isabela are very good friends. I havent read it, cant get the page is bussy.. Did they ( Alistair, Isabela, varric) arrive to Antiva by Boat?
Isabela has been in Antiva before thats where she meet Zev.( I think)

I assume so, we don't see the arrival. Alistair is alone, fights some Crows and Varric and Isabela chip in (though it's clear they're already a team by this time). 

[Maria13]

Dang! Such slowness! Yeah, our comments have reached the first page... 10 more or so to go...

[Maria13]

So now we know what Alistair is looking for and there are clearly hints of a relationship between him and Isabela...

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Maria13 wrote...

Well Alistair and Isabela potentially met in DA1. They may even have had sex with each other as part of a threesome with the warden. Isabela explains that Claudio was an associate of her former husband whom she hired Zev to kill. I can't see there is a problem here.

The bolded bit is what I don't get.

In DA2, romanced Isabela can explicitly tell Hawke that she wasn't the one who hired Zevran. This is supported by her interaction with Zevran in DA:O, where the two act as though they hadn't been in league insofar as the assassination was concerned.

So is she lying in DA2 (and DAO) or lying in this comic?

Or, unless Isabela had another husband we don't know about, did DG simply get a bit of lore wrong?

[Maria13]

So I got it wrong SoLD? Need to have another look at the Wiki...

[Maria13]

Ummm Wiki says:

"She was once married to the original owner of The Siren's Call, until he was killed by Zevran for unknown reasons, leading her to inherit the ship. She doesn't seem too regretful over her husband's death, calling him a "greasy bastard", explaining her rather cordial relationship with Zevran."

Probably my mistake then.  I was reading more into it than there is...

BTW I am evermore convinced Zev will make some appearance. Gaider says coyly in an interview about the comic that we may get to meet other characters. 

Modifié par Maria13, 07 mars 2012 - 09:40 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

You didn't get it wrong, Maria It's just the comic seemingly contradicting DA2, if comic-Isabela says she hired Zevran.

Isabela's romance includes dialogue where she can tell Hawke that her husband (whom she didn't like) was assassinated by Zevran, as well as <quote> "And before you start jumping to conclusions, no, I didn't hire the assassin. I did thank him profusely, however."</quote>

Check out this Youtube clip and jump to the 2:20 mark for confirmation.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 07 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[Corker]

FWIW, I just read it and noticed that "Story" is David Gaider and "Script" is someone else entirely.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Ahhh...so it may have been a non-Bioware writer? Ok, if so, that'd explain everything. XD

[Firky]

Maria13 wrote...

there are clearly hints of a relationship between him and Isabela...

Yeah, I thought that, too. What's up with that?

(Also, I'm totally confused by #2. But I'm confident things will become clearer.)

[Maria13]

@ Firky well clearly they know each other. As I said there could have been more... But he's always been very gallant with the ladies, he drapes a cloak around her (his?) cause she's come out of the water, and he's pretty good looking with a sense of humour so Isabela might well take a shine to him. They may also have gone adventuring together before, after all ten years have passed (Isabela's remark about a partner "who doesn't give a damn about your bloodline").

@SoLD It was my mistake Isabela didn't say it in the comic, but you really, really should read it if only to save yourself the trouble of having to call me out on every gaffe I make!

[Corker]

No, she totally does, at least in my copy. Issue 1, Page 13:

Varric: The husband you killed?
Isabela: The husband I had killed, thank you.

[Maria13]

Ah, so I wasn't off... Perhaps Zev was just protecting a client, you know, confidentiality and all that! ;-) I'm sure assassins must have guidelines on ethics...

Either that or the good old captain had more than one hit put on him...

Modifié par Maria13, 08 mars 2012 - 11:02 .

[whykikyouwhy]

I chalk it up to her lying in one situation or the other. So too, sometimes emotion may tinge how a story is related at a specific moment.

Perhaps she's been hanging around Varric too long and has added some embellishment to the details in order to tell a more thrilling story.

[TEWR]

I doubt Hawke would want to know that Isabela killed her former husband, and so she may have lied so he doesn't know that piece of information. That might make him feel.... uneasy.

EDIT: Now sure, Hawke and whats-his-name are two entirely different people -- one's a decent guy while the other is a bastard -- but I don't think that would be what would go through Hawke's mind.

"She killed her husband? Maker above, I shouldn't ****** her off anytime soon."

It's one thing that the husband was assassinated for seemingly unknown reasons. Hawke sees it as Isabela coming out ahead after having nothing to do with it and the man probably died for some unrelated-to-Isabela reason.

It's another to find out Isabela had her husband killed.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 mars 2012 - 11:32 .

[TheChris92]

Claudio's connection to the crows is not surprising, considering Antiva is pretty much the "Crows Nest" so to speak. All of its citizens seems to have a connection to them. I'm still wondering when this comic book takes place. I wonder if it's between the end of Act 2 and 3 during the years that passes by in DA2.

[Maria13]

Ten years after DA Gaider said in a Twitter interview.

[TheChris92]

Maria13 wrote...

Ten years after DA Gaider said in a Twitter interview.

Interesting, thanks for answering. I'll read the second issue when I get home.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Isabela doesn't strike me as the kind of person who'd lie about not killing someone she despised. Besides, the situation with the 'artifact' in DA2 has shown her to be horrible at direct deception. Yeah, she lies, but it's excruciatingly obvious when she does. And if confidentiality is the real issue, why would Varric know the truth, spill it to Alistair, and have Isabela clarify rather than deny?

Eh. My money's on her lying on the comic or a bit of lore getting mucked up. No big deal, just a point of interest.

(And Maria, I'll wait until they're all available. )