127 réponses à ce sujet

[Firky]

Yeah, that. Only I didn't entirely understand what had happened - but it made me really angry (in a good way, storytelling wise). But, yeah, probably too spoilery.

[Kavatica]

Firky wrote...

Yeah, that. Only I didn't entirely understand what had happened - but it made me really angry (in a good way, storytelling wise). But, yeah, probably too spoilery.

It was something not good. Very not good.

[jlb524]

I liked this issue...especially the Isabela stuff.

[Who is that Masked Man]

I have enjoyed this comic a lot. I like the art. Alistair, Varric, and Isabela are all awesome. And the story has kept me interested throughout.

Issue 5, though, was mostly filler. Fun filler, but filler nonetheless. Not much story development going on here, which is a bummer considering how little issue 4 actually told us.

So, now we know that Claudio didn't want to kill the dragon, because the dragon is "why we're interested" in the Silent Grove. And Yavana, after blowing off Alistair the first time he asked her to give him real answers to his questions, has decided to come back and offer "the truth." Or, possibly, just more cryptic hints. Tune in next time to find out which!

I hope that in the next issue, we will find that Yavana really has had a change of heart (perhaps due to the danger posed by Claudio's master having located the Silent Grove), and will now dispense actual information rather than cryptic gobbledegook. Like, maybe we'll actually find out why Yavana thinks the dragons are so important. Or what really happened to Maric. Or what Maric was doing in a Crow prison, or who Claudio was working for.

But at this point what I'm fearing is that we'll get a few more pages of Yavana spouting off cryptic nonsense, then telling Alistair that he will find the whole truth only in Orlais. After that, a couple pages with Alistair expressing his intention to go to Orlais in pursuit of answers, and possibly with Varric and Isabela deciding to come along. Second to last page: Claudio's master, in heavy shadow, uttering cryptic nonsense about dragons and possibly Flemeth. Last page: Flemeth, in heavy shadow, uttering cryptic nonsense about storms and change.

Bonus points if we have to wait until DA3 just to find out who Claudio's master even was.

[devanroth22]

Who is that Masked Man wrote...

I have enjoyed this comic a lot. I like the art. Alistair, Varric, and Isabela are all awesome. And the story has kept me interested throughout.

Issue 5, though, was mostly filler. Fun filler, but filler nonetheless. Not much story development going on here, which is a bummer considering how little issue 4 actually told us.

So, now we know that Claudio didn't want to kill the dragon, because the dragon is "why we're interested" in the Silent Grove. And Yavana, after blowing off Alistair the first time he asked her to give him real answers to his questions, has decided to come back and offer "the truth." Or, possibly, just more cryptic hints. Tune in next time to find out which!

I hope that in the next issue, we will find that Yavana really has had a change of heart (perhaps due to the danger posed by Claudio's master having located the Silent Grove), and will now dispense actual information rather than cryptic gobbledegook. Like, maybe we'll actually find out why Yavana thinks the dragons are so important. Or what really happened to Maric. Or what Maric was doing in a Crow prison, or who Claudio was working for.

But at this point what I'm fearing is that we'll get a few more pages of Yavana spouting off cryptic nonsense, then telling Alistair that he will find the whole truth only in Orlais. After that, a couple pages with Alistair expressing his intention to go to Orlais in pursuit of answers, and possibly with Varric and Isabela deciding to come along. Second to last page: Claudio's master, in heavy shadow, uttering cryptic nonsense about dragons and possibly Flemeth. Last page: Flemeth, in heavy shadow, uttering cryptic nonsense about storms and change.

Bonus points if we have to wait until DA3 just to find out who Claudio's master even was.

 I LOLed for a solid 2 min.

[Augustei]

New issue was pretty good, even though still not much explained.. The guy they are after now sounds like a Tevinter. I know it'd be kinda stupid but it'd also be so cool if Alistair declared war on Tevinter =D Doubt it'd happen though.

I was not expecting what happened at the end of the latest issue though, was quite the suprise.. And yet, it was a good suprise I was pleased with Alistair's display of badassery

Until its revealed why the Dragons are so damned important I say we might as well remove them from existance or if they are important cage them and dont let them out. Because they are nothing but a problem for the races of thedas, As seen by the epilogue of the High Dragon in Origins where it goes on a rampage and destroys the countryside etc.

Anyway think it might be safe to say that Canon Alistair, or at least Alistair in the comics is Hardened

[Reznore57]

SPOILERS:






I've just finished reading the Silent Grove and even thought it doesn't answers questions , it adds interesting informations.

We learns that Flemeth have at least another daughter ,Ya -something (can't remember her name) that she's trying to protect dragons and needs some royal blood to awake some high dragon .(reminded me of darkspawn and the blight)
She says that dragons are the blood of Thedas and killing them all might be dangerous .And that dragons used to rule the world before the veil existed.

I always thought Thedas used to be one with the fade and it may hint at that.
And I always thought that something might happen if it comes to the last blight.We also know someone/thing (Dumat?) tricked the magister to the golden city and then the blight begins.

Now there's also Morrigan , who tried and suceed in purifying and preserving an old god soul , but Flemeth seems to think it's not a good thing.
I wonder what's the relashionship between old gods and dragon?

Some thing must have happen for the veil to exist , dragon to fall asleep and old gods to be trapped.
Are the dragon , the prison/vessel of the old gods?

[Maria13]

* Deleted. Moved to spoiler thread* 

Modifié par Maria13, 02 mai 2012 - 01:23 .

[Kavatica]

XxDeonxX wrote...

New issue was pretty good, even though still not much explained.. The guy they are after now sounds like a Tevinter. I know it'd be kinda stupid but it'd also be so cool if Alistair declared war on Tevinter =D Doubt it'd happen though.

I was not expecting what happened at the end of the latest issue though, was quite the suprise.. And yet, it was a good suprise I was pleased with Alistair's display of badassery

Until its revealed why the Dragons are so damned important I say we might as well remove them from existance or if they are important cage them and dont let them out. Because they are nothing but a problem for the races of thedas, As seen by the epilogue of the High Dragon in Origins where it goes on a rampage and destroys the countryside etc.

Anyway think it might be safe to say that Canon Alistair, or at least Alistair in the comics is Hardened

My first instinct was that he was hardened too. But maybe he just grew up.  My favourite line in Issue 6: "Why is it always a ritual?"

Modifié par Kavatica, 02 mai 2012 - 02:39 .

[Quinnzel]

Kavatica wrote...

My first instinct was that he was hardened too. But maybe he just grew up.  My favourite line in Issue 6: "Why is it always a ritual?"

I balked a wee bit at that line, especially as It seems to imply Alistair did the ritual with Morrigan.
Just....no...
*Goes back to Origins and kills AlistBore*

Modifié par Quinnzel, 02 mai 2012 - 02:53 .

[BioFan (Official)]

I enjoyed it, but i felt like the ending fell short. Maybe it was just my expectations.

[BubbleDncr]

Ericander77 wrote...

I enjoyed it, but i felt like the ending fell short. Maybe it was just my expectations.

I agree.

Also, maybe I'm blind, but I can't seem to find a thread in the spoiler section for this...

[BubbleDncr]

Kavatica wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

New issue was pretty good, even though still not much explained.. The guy they are after now sounds like a Tevinter. I know it'd be kinda stupid but it'd also be so cool if Alistair declared war on Tevinter =D Doubt it'd happen though.

I was not expecting what happened at the end of the latest issue though, was quite the suprise.. And yet, it was a good suprise I was pleased with Alistair's display of badassery

Until its revealed why the Dragons are so damned important I say we might as well remove them from existance or if they are important cage them and dont let them out. Because they are nothing but a problem for the races of thedas, As seen by the epilogue of the High Dragon in Origins where it goes on a rampage and destroys the countryside etc.

Anyway think it might be safe to say that Canon Alistair, or at least Alistair in the comics is Hardened

My first instinct was that he was hardened too. But maybe he just grew up.  My favourite line in Issue 6: "Why is it always a ritual?"

There is no cannon Alistair, just the Alistair in your game and the Alistair in the comics.

That said, I would think this means that in the comics, the Warden was most likely female -  because I don't know what male Warden would make Alistair do the ritual instead of doing it themselves. And Alistair doesn't know about the ritual unless he did it.

Which makes sense, because the fans who care the most about a comic centered around Alistair are probably the female fans.

[Xeyska]

More questions to add to the pile of cryptic nonsense. ._.

Bah, I want some answers.

[Brockololly]

BubbleDncr wrote...

That said, I would think this means that in the comics, the Warden was most likely female -  because I don't know what male Warden would make Alistair do the ritual instead of doing it themselves. And Alistair doesn't know about the ritual unless he did it.

Its possible for the male Warden to tell Alistair about the DR and still end up doing it themselves.

[CruserBoii]

Brockololly wrote...

BubbleDncr wrote...

That said, I would think this means that in the comics, the Warden was most likely female -  because I don't know what male Warden would make Alistair do the ritual instead of doing it themselves. And Alistair doesn't know about the ritual unless he did it.

Its possible for the male Warden to tell Alistair about the DR and still end up doing it themselves.

I assumed Alistair knew about the ritual either way. I believe he makes a comment about it when talking about Morrigan at the coronation, though he doesn't say 'the ritual' he says something along the lines 'I know what she did' or something like that.

[Brockololly]

CruserBoii wrote...
I assumed Alistair knew about the ritual either way. I believe he makes a comment about it when talking about Morrigan at the coronation, though he doesn't say 'the ritual' he says something along the lines 'I know what she did' or something like that.

I'm pretty sure thats actually a bug- that Alistair acts like he knows about the Ritual no matter what. Thats not supposed to happen but I don't think it was ever officially fixed by BioWare.

[Kavatica]

I would agree that Alistair would know about the ritual either way (female or male Warden), assuming the Warden survives. He's going to want to know how it is possible that the Warden is still alive. So I would guess that Comic Alistair exists in a world where the Warden lived.

Modifié par Kavatica, 02 mai 2012 - 09:04 .

[King Cousland]

 So...if this is legit, is Alistair's coronation really canon? If he'll find Maric alive in Those Who Speak, I'd say there isn't much choice but to make his being king canon <_<

Modifié par harkness72, 02 mai 2012 - 09:10 .

[Who is that Masked Man]

Brockololly wrote...

CruserBoii wrote...
I assumed Alistair knew about the ritual either way. I believe he makes a comment about it when talking about Morrigan at the coronation, though he doesn't say 'the ritual' he says something along the lines 'I know what she did' or something like that.

I'm pretty sure thats actually a bug- that Alistair acts like he knows about the Ritual no matter what. Thats not supposed to happen but I don't think it was ever officially fixed by BioWare.

Unfortunately this is probably the case. Though I got Alistair telling me that he knew "what Morrigan did" in front of the gates of Denerim, after killing the Archdemon he was wondering how my Warden survived. When I picked the "Morrigan saved me with her magic" line, Alistair even said "I had no idea."

Which is too bad, because I always liked to think of Morrigan telling Alistair about the ritual just to rub it in his face that the Wardens owed her for their survival.

Modifié par Who is that Masked Man, 02 mai 2012 - 09:16 .

[Kavatica]

harkness72 wrote...

 So...if this is legit, is Alistair's coronation really canon? If he'll find Maric alive in Those Who Speak, I'd say there isn't much choice but to make his being king canon <_<

I don't think Alistair being king is canon (although in my head, it is). They've just taken one of the DAO outcomes and written a story about it. As far as I can tell, the comic storyline happens outside of the game storyline. If it's not playable, it doesn't really count. It's an alternate universe.

[BubbleDncr]

Kavatica wrote...

harkness72 wrote...

 So...if this is legit, is Alistair's coronation really canon? If he'll find Maric alive in Those Who Speak, I'd say there isn't much choice but to make his being king canon <_<

I don't think Alistair being king is canon (although in my head, it is). They've just taken one of the DAO outcomes and written a story about it. As far as I can tell, the comic storyline happens outside of the game storyline. If it's not playable, it doesn't really count. It's an alternate universe.

The way I take it is, no matter what happened to Alistair in your story, everything that happened with Maric still did - since Alistair being king/grey warden/drunk has no effect on that. It just means that if Alistair isn't king in your cannon, then he never had this adventure to go learn all this information.

But then again, just because we've only seen the King Alistair version of this story doesn't mean that, in theory, Warden/Drunk Alistair could have gone on the same quest with slightly different circumstances.

So anyways - Maric could show up alive in a future DA game, because his story isn't altered byt Alistair's life/death. But this next series makes me think that King Maric's story is gonna end up being reserved soley for the comic books. If anything they'll just throw something tiny into a future game as an easter egg for players who read the comic, much like Kahlee Sanders' appearence in ME3.

[brain_damage]

So, um, those dragon eggs sure look like lyrium. In fact, there is lyrium between the eggs. Speculations, anybody?

[Augustei]

Reznore57 wrote...
Now there's also Morrigan , who tried and suceed in purifying and
preserving an old god soul , but Flemeth seems to think it's not a good
thing.
I wonder what's the relashionship between old gods and dragon?

Some thing must have happen for the veil to exist , dragon to fall asleep and old gods to be trapped.
Are the dragon , the prison/vessel of the old gods?

Whether Morrigan suceeds in "purifying" and preserving an old god's soul is up to the player, she may not suceed.

Nothing is ever said to suggest that Flemeth seems to think its not a good thing, quite the opposite in fact as Morrigan says it was her idea in the first place.

The Relationship between old gods and dragons is evident already, The old gods WERE dragons and were the most intelligent of them at the top of their heirarchy, like how a High Dragon is higher placed than a drake etc.

[Reznore57]

Flemeth says in DA2 that Morrigan may have done something bad.Something like:"...if i know my Morrigan , the inevitable has already occured."

Besides , not all high dragon are old gods , the one that are are called Archdemons now.
I mean what if they are a sort of abominations?
Like old gods were creature etheral (fade like) and dragon were earth like.And something happened and old gods posseded the more powerful dragons.

We 're not 100% sure but it seems like Dumat tricked magisters into the fade to spread the taint , once people are tainted they hear a song that drove them to awoke archdemon .
The one who's responsible for the spread of the taint clearly had something in mind ...

Maybe old god and dragon are a balance for the world ,and killing them we'll break that.

That can also be a reference to The dalish myth , with two sort of gods, and the fact that they have been emprisoned.