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[foo man chew]

The word entitled gets thrown around way to much in this thread.

[realguile]

Fix1o0 wrote...

realguile wrote...

 And the crying from the vocal minority contiunes...

Pay the money and shut up, or better yet, get out of here. if bioware disgusts you so much then get lost.

I'll be playing the collectors edition with my new squadmate and the rest of you can choke on your tears.

You sound upset. If this topic disgusts you so much then stay the f.ck away from it, idiot.

I'm here cause you scrubs entertain me. Almost as much Mass effect proper. Your tears are the sweet sugar I need in my tea. Keep em comin.

I'd gladly pay $10 to post in this thread and witness the massive collective sobbing from the vocal minority.

[Confused-Shepard]

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

Those not shelling out extra for the Collector's Edition are feeling butthurt they have to pay more for CE content? When they are actually paying less? How odd.  Those of us buying the CE paid more for this CE content, announced long ago and no surprise to anyone who pays attention.  If we'd wanted none of that content we'd have paid less for the standard edition. Hence the difference between "standard" as in "no extras", and the "Collector's Edition", as in "limited/deluxe/exclusive edition" -  mucho extras.  You pay more, you get more.  Tis a simple fact of capitalism.

An analogy:  You and I buy a house from the same contractor.  My house cost 120 000 bucks.  Yours cost 75 000. Mine has a pool and a jacuzzi and a home gym.  None of those are essential for my house to be called a home. They're perks.  Extras. I paid 120 000 bucks for them deliberately.

Suddenly, you decide that you want the pool and jacuzzi and home gym - and you want it for free, because you bought a house from the same contractor that I did.  Now, because other houses on the street have pools, you argue that it's essential for all houses to have pools.  See, Frank down the block got his pool because the contractor that built his house threw the pool in as a complimentary "thanks for buying" incentive.  Therefore the contractors who don't are thieving pr!cks with the temerity to call a pool "a luxury" and not necessarily essential to your happiness.  What a bunch of scumbags.

Now why do you think you should not only get what I paid a hundred gees for - for free, but that you are also entitled to it?  Seriously?  Is it the "principle" of the thing?  Because my Ferrari gets hand-painted and 80 klicks to the gallon you think your sh!tty 23 Kpg Toyota should as well?  Just to make everything "fair"?  

The fvck?

The rest seems to be some shrill bleat about Day One DLC being... what?  Dishonest?  Deceptive?  Bad business? Suddenly half of BSN consists of corporate lawyers who know ethical business practice from thievery because they masturbate to Steam or some such nonsense? WTF?

Bioware did this deliberately to take a big sh!t on all the "loyal" customers?  Hardly lawyers, half of BSN is a pack of snarling dogs who never think they're fed adequately, even though they tend to get fed better than most of the other packs out there.

The misplaced sense of entitlement that stinks this forum up is ridiculous.  I had thought that maybe I was going to get shafted on ME3 (I still might, as my chief concern was storywise), but as it turns out I think the main reasons for my misgivings were the same reasons (amongst others) I started to dislike Tali - a great many of the fans are fvck'n brainless reactionary ****holes.  It wasn't Tali's fault - it wasn't even *gasp* Bioware's fault.

No matter what Bioware does, you get the same Westboro Baptist version of "fan" that start the same bleat/bullsh!t about BW/EA trying to evilmoneyhump everyone.  

You are not entitled to anything.  You mad?  Don't buy anything Bioware. That's the only way your crusades will work.  Keep your damn money.  Who gives a sh!t?  You don't have to buy it.  You can wait until the end of March and then watch the inevitable YouTube walkthroughs.  Judge it when you have actual facts as to what is actually in the game and you don't have to take the gamble with your money.  Once you know, then decide.  After that, if you decide you do want it, well, hell, there will apparently be a few hundred thousand cancelled preorders floating about. 

Bioware didn't have to offer CE content to non-CE buyers.  They didn't have to - but they did.  You're still paying half for it that I'm paying.  It is your assertion that Protheans are vitally important to the game.  YOURS.  You, however, did not write any of the ME story.  Not a word.  You don't dictate how it goes.  You either buy it or don't - that's your only real contribution to the process.  You don't have the right to complain until after you've bought it, and you don't have the right to an opinion until you have actual facts.

I'd say "grow up", but this is BSN.

Bioware is not selling the pool for $10, they are selling a furnished kitchen for $10
That's how important Prothy is or should be. It's the lack of giving him importance that irks me 
Since that's the case, I won't be getting it and continue to think of the Protheans as anything but Kenyan's 

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

Amikae wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

I 100% agree with bioware. True fans bought the collectors edition and they get rewarded with a free DLC. Those that don't bought the normal version either from the start or later on and therefor this should be a DLC that you can buy.

Good Choice from bioware

So BioWare is implying, that those of us who didn't find this CE appealing and just bought the SE, are not proper fans of Mass Effect?

No but we paid extra for the DLC character.. so suck it up... you are too.

[Blarty]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

Those not shelling out extra for the Collector's Edition are feeling butthurt they have to pay more for CE content? When they are actually paying less? How odd.  Those of us buying the CE paid more for this CE content, announced long ago and no surprise to anyone who pays attention.  If we'd wanted none of that content we'd have paid less for the standard edition. Hence the difference between "standard" as in "no extras", and the "Collector's Edition", as in "limited/deluxe/exclusive edition" -  mucho extras.  You pay more, you get more.  Tis a simple fact of capitalism.

An analogy:  You and I buy a house from the same contractor.  My house cost 120 000 bucks.  Yours cost 75 000. Mine has a pool and a jacuzzi and a home gym.  None of those are essential for my house to be called a home. They're perks.  Extras. I paid 120 000 bucks for them deliberately.

Suddenly, you decide that you want the pool and jacuzzi and home gym - and you want it for free, because you bought a house from the same contractor that I did.  Now, because other houses on the street have pools, you argue that it's essential for all houses to have pools.  See, Frank down the block got his pool because the contractor that built his house threw the pool in as a complimentary "thanks for buying" incentive.  Therefore the contractors who don't are thieving pr!cks with the temerity to call a pool "a luxury" and not necessarily essential to your happiness.  What a bunch of scumbags.

Now why do you think you should not only get what I paid a hundred gees for - for free, but that you are also entitled to it?  Seriously?  Is it the "principle" of the thing?  Because my Ferrari gets hand-painted and 80 klicks to the gallon you think your sh!tty 23 Kpg Toyota should as well?  Just to make everything "fair"?  

The fvck?

The rest seems to be some shrill bleat about Day One DLC being... what?  Dishonest?  Deceptive?  Bad business? Suddenly half of BSN consists of corporate lawyers who know ethical business practice from thievery because they masturbate to Steam or some such nonsense? WTF?

Bioware did this deliberately to take a big sh!t on all the "loyal" customers?  Hardly lawyers, half of BSN is a pack of snarling dogs who never think they're fed adequately, even though they tend to get fed better than most of the other packs out there.

The misplaced sense of entitlement that stinks this forum up is ridiculous.  I had thought that maybe I was going to get shafted on ME3 (I still might, as my chief concern was storywise), but as it turns out I think the main reasons for my misgivings were the same reasons (amongst others) I started to dislike Tali - a great many of the fans are fvck'n brainless reactionary ****holes.  It wasn't Tali's fault - it wasn't even *gasp* Bioware's fault.

No matter what Bioware does, you get the same Westboro Baptist version of "fan" that start the same bleat/bullsh!t about BW/EA trying to evilmoneyhump everyone.  

You are not entitled to anything.  You mad?  Don't buy anything Bioware. That's the only way your crusades will work.  Keep your damn money.  Who gives a sh!t?  You don't have to buy it.  You can wait until the end of March and then watch the inevitable YouTube walkthroughs.  Judge it when you have actual facts as to what is actually in the game and you don't have to take the gamble with your money.  Once you know, then decide.  After that, if you decide you do want it, well, hell, there will apparently be a few hundred thousand cancelled preorders floating about. 

Bioware didn't have to offer CE content to non-CE buyers.  They didn't have to - but they did.  You're still paying half for it that I'm paying.  It is your assertion that Protheans are vitally important to the game.  YOURS.  You, however, did not write any of the ME story.  Not a word.  You don't dictate how it goes.  You either buy it or don't - that's your only real contribution to the process.  You don't have the right to complain until after you've bought it, and you don't have the right to an opinion until you have actual facts.

I'd say "grow up", but this is BSN.

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

*Another golf clap*

And not at all heavy handed given that it's ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR PAGES IN

[Anaeme]

Money Talks folks

If you do follow through with a boycott of the game I GUARANTEE that many things will become free very very fast.

This is no kidding.

When DA2 started seeing red in sales Bioware threw in ME2 for FREE with each purchase of DA2 just to move sales


Do not underestimate your power to make things happen.

In fact if people hold out for just 1 week, you will see some crazy about turns from Bioware

[Farbautisonn]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Very true the issue is that many people believe the argument can be solved on the forums alone, and while the forums certianly have their place, the entire situation that this issue stems from that people are so against would likely be significantly different if all those people took the time to voice their complaints to EA,, Bioware, and other publishers and developers through more traditional means. 

It's easy to ignore ranting on a forum, its much harder to ignore 500 emails, or 200 written letters. 

I can say nothing more than that I fully agree!

-Did any of you people ever work CS? 

[Errationatus]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

Thanks.  "Heavy-handed"?  Maybe.  But reason tends to get ignored on BSN.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Blarty wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

<snipped>

I'd say "grow up", but this is BSN.

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

*Another golf clap*

And not at all heavy handed given that it's ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR PAGES IN

/signed.

You put so eloquently, what many of us were thinking, Jake.

Kudos. I hope everyone in this thread reads your post and reflects on their own opinions afterward.

[Cainne Chapel]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Very true the issue is that many people believe the argument can be solved on the forums alone, and while the forums certianly have their place, the entire situation that this issue stems from that people are so against would likely be significantly different if all those people took the time to voice their complaints to EA,, Bioware, and other publishers and developers through more traditional means. 

It's easy to ignore ranting on a forum, its much harder to ignore 500 emails, or 200 written letters. 

I can say nothing more than that I fully agree!

Problem is, when everything is faceless and easy access like the internet, the complaints come out in droves. 

But when someone actually tries to organize a real petition that actually takes a bit of thought (not just copy pasting and/or electronically signing something) thats when the inherent laziness kicks in and no one wants to do anything.  Even if its only ONE person sending a typed or hand written letter, I can GUARANTEE that gets a lot more recognition from the publisher and developer than any email or easy to use internent petition.

So dont only vote with your wallet by NOT buying it, go the next level, actually take the time to write a detailed letter describing your unease and unhappiness with the product/issue (no ranting, but actual constructive critiscism, with emotion, but no name calling and blaming and empy threats or facts) and that'll cause a lot more of a wave than the ripples that happen on these forums

[Draconis6666]

I think something that people against the current DLC model need to think very hard about is what the alternatives would be. If you honestly think that by protesting against DLC you are going to get the same content and continue paying what you pay now you are deluding yourself. There are a whole list or probable options.

A) Decrease in the quality of games due to cut production costs to keep current prices (unlikely inferior goods lead to decreased sales)
Current Prices stay the same and content is simply cut and never seen again like it used to be (possible but this is still not likely as it is not a way of generating increased revenue and showing positive growth to your shareholders)
C) Increase the Base price of the game to $70, $80 even $90 and give you all the content that would normally be released as early DLC by delaying the game a month or so. Then gather up all the additional content and package it together into a $45 or $50 expansion 6-7 months down the road.

C is the most likely turn of events should the DLC system suddenly completely vanish as some people seem to want. So a question people who feel that way and feel they are being nickle and dimed should ask themselves is if they feel strongly enough that they do not want this, That they are willing to face the possible result of simply paying more for games in general and, instead of being able to pick what you want and don't want from after release content, being forced to buy a $45-50 package that may have only a few things that interest you or do without those things completely.

If after considering that you still feel that DLC is an evil abomination and must be destroyed then go for it by all means. More power to you for sticking to your convictions, but at least you will be doing so having considered the results.

[Farbautisonn]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

Thanks.  "Heavy-handed"?  Maybe.  But reason tends to get ignored on BSN.

You do realize that you define Irony right now? 

[TheStoner]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

I 100% agree with bioware. True fans bought the collectors edition and they get rewarded with a free DLC. Those that don't bought the normal version either from the start or later on and therefor this should be a DLC that you can buy.

Good Choice from bioware

So BioWare is implying, that those of us who didn't find this CE appealing and just bought the SE, are not proper fans of Mass Effect?

No but we paid extra for the DLC character.. so suck it up... you are too.

Don't try to push your decisions onto other people.

[nitefyre410]

OdanUrr wrote...
*snip*

 

How much did this game cost for  the folks in Austrialia  already in  hundreds of US  Dollars I guess they not really enough fans for some folk... .

God I hate the phrase "Real Fan"  

Bioware reasons on  this... is bad to say the least.    They should have looked at how  welll this went over with figthing game community when MVC 3 came out and the collectors had Jill and Shurma Gorath as a free DLC for those the brought it then release the  characaters a month later... CE got em for free...everyone else not so much.  It did not goover well at all and  SFXTK comes out  and Capcom learn from the mistake.

Collectors Editions should include nice  things like artbooks, litographs,  soundtracks, nice metal case's, a making of DVD. Things like that, things they always have included...

Not exclusive useable/playable characters that  SE buyers are charge for at a later date or in this day 1.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 23 février 2012 - 12:55 .

[Blarty]

Selor Kiith wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Very true the issue is that many people believe the argument can be solved on the forums alone, and while the forums certianly have their place, the entire situation that this issue stems from that people are so against would likely be significantly different if all those people took the time to voice their complaints to EA,, Bioware, and other publishers and developers through more traditional means. 

It's easy to ignore ranting on a forum, its much harder to ignore 500 emails, or 200 written letters. 

I can say nothing more than that I fully agree!

Steve Jobs caved in a lot when people sent emails to his Apple address.....

[SadisTech]

Deluxe burger: $6
Deluxe burger with fries: $7

OMG F*CK THE COOK AND ALL THE WAITSTAFF FRIES SHOULD BE INCLUDED FOR FREE THEY WERE COOKED AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY ARE PART OF THE BURGER EXPERIENCE

[Daywalker315]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

Those not shelling out extra for the Collector's Edition are feeling butthurt they have to pay more for CE content? When they are actually paying less? How odd.  Those of us buying the CE paid more for this CE content, announced long ago and no surprise to anyone who pays attention.  If we'd wanted none of that content we'd have paid less for the standard edition. Hence the difference between "standard" as in "no extras", and the "Collector's Edition", as in "limited/deluxe/exclusive edition" -  mucho extras.  You pay more, you get more.  Tis a simple fact of capitalism.

An analogy:  You and I buy a house from the same contractor.  My house cost 120 000 bucks.  Yours cost 75 000. Mine has a pool and a jacuzzi and a home gym.  None of those are essential for my house to be called a home. They're perks.  Extras. I paid 120 000 bucks for them deliberately.

Suddenly, you decide that you want the pool and jacuzzi and home gym - and you want it for free, because you bought a house from the same contractor that I did.  Now, because other houses on the street have pools, you argue that it's essential for all houses to have pools.  See, Frank down the block got his pool because the contractor that built his house threw the pool in as a complimentary "thanks for buying" incentive.  Therefore the contractors who don't are thieving pr!cks with the temerity to call a pool "a luxury" and not necessarily essential to your happiness.  What a bunch of scumbags.

Now why do you think you should not only get what I paid a hundred gees for - for free, but that you are also entitled to it?  Seriously?  Is it the "principle" of the thing?  Because my Ferrari gets hand-painted and 80 klicks to the gallon you think your sh!tty 23 Kpg Toyota should as well?  Just to make everything "fair"?  

The fvck?

The rest seems to be some shrill bleat about Day One DLC being... what?  Dishonest?  Deceptive?  Bad business? Suddenly half of BSN consists of corporate lawyers who know ethical business practice from thievery because they masturbate to Steam or some such nonsense? WTF?

Bioware did this deliberately to take a big sh!t on all the "loyal" customers?  Hardly lawyers, half of BSN is a pack of snarling dogs who never think they're fed adequately, even though they tend to get fed better than most of the other packs out there.

The misplaced sense of entitlement that stinks this forum up is ridiculous.  I had thought that maybe I was going to get shafted on ME3 (I still might, as my chief concern was storywise), but as it turns out I think the main reasons for my misgivings were the same reasons (amongst others) I started to dislike Tali - a great many of the fans are fvck'n brainless reactionary ****holes.  It wasn't Tali's fault - it wasn't even *gasp* Bioware's fault.

No matter what Bioware does, you get the same Westboro Baptist version of "fan" that start the same bleat/bullsh!t about BW/EA trying to evilmoneyhump everyone.  

You are not entitled to anything.  You mad?  Don't buy anything Bioware. That's the only way your crusades will work.  Keep your damn money.  Who gives a sh!t?  You don't have to buy it.  You can wait until the end of March and then watch the inevitable YouTube walkthroughs.  Judge it when you have actual facts as to what is actually in the game and you don't have to take the gamble with your money.  Once you know, then decide.  After that, if you decide you do want it, well, hell, there will apparently be a few hundred thousand cancelled preorders floating about. 

Bioware didn't have to offer CE content to non-CE buyers.  They didn't have to - but they did.  You're still paying half for it that I'm paying.  It is your assertion that Protheans are vitally important to the game.  YOURS.  You, however, did not write any of the ME story.  Not a word.  You don't dictate how it goes.  You either buy it or don't - that's your only real contribution to the process.  You don't have the right to complain until after you've bought it, and you don't have the right to an opinion until you have actual facts.

I'd say "grow up", but this is BSN.

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

Heavy handed indeed, but I don't blame the guy for trying it that way. They don't listen to polite, well-reasoned logical arguments. They won't listen to this either, though.

Somebody else mentioned this addresses some, but not all of the concerns. Yes, the one actual comment people could make that I could agree with is that the Prothean should have been a more integral and tied-in part of the story if they were going to do it. But obviously it's a smaller role and it's non-essential to the main story, so it's a CE DLC item. And it's being offered to everyone else for a modest fee. I bought a CE. I'd be slighted if they took the item they've marketed as bonus DLC for CE for 9 months and make it free for everyone. Standard ed buyers shouldn't get for free what we paid for. Simple as that. Pay $10 or just play the game without it. It's gonna rock either way.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

Anaeme wrote...

Money Talks folks

If you do follow through with a boycott of the game I GUARANTEE that many things will become free very very fast.

This is no kidding.

When DA2 started seeing red in sales Bioware threw in ME2 for FREE with each purchase of DA2 just to move sales


Do not underestimate your power to make things happen.

In fact if people hold out for just 1 week, you will see some crazy about turns from Bioware

Yes but you still have to pay for DA2... they won't say "Hey were in the red for "From Ashes" sales, alright DLC is now free"

[Baal Sagoth]

Anaeme wrote...

Someone mentioned CDProjekt in this thread...the difference in the way both companies treat their customers is stunning really

Origin vs GOG

Ashes DLC vs Added content in X360 edition

When CDP released The Witcher 2 they did not force people to download it through GOG
When the enchanced edition of The Witcher 2 comes out, PC fans will get all the additional X360 content for free


How did Bioware fall so low? I do not recognize this company anymore. Who are these people?

Because it's the pattern that repeats itself all the time. CDProjekt RED is fairly new developer and even if they make good games they don't sell in multiple millions. And they don't heve real publisher like EA and Acti.

Almost always new studios represent everything we want: fair bussines model, customer care, proper communication with fan base. But every successful studio, who earns $$$ eventually changes to ultimate money making machine. When You make big blockbuster, sells millions of copies and can dump millions into marketing true life long fans aren't needed anymore 'cause You can put game to everybody hands and make $$$ still. I will quote myself:

"I wonder why unknown studio like 38 Studios, without strong (or any)
position on market could make and sell Kingdoms of Amalur without Day 1
DLC, mandatory Origin and so on, with the same evil publisher as EA? And
Bioware can't? Yeah, sure... Go figure yourself."

[Dovahzaan]

Anaeme wrote...

Money Talks folks

If you do follow through with a boycott of the game I GUARANTEE that many things will become free very very fast.

This is no kidding.

When DA2 started seeing red in sales Bioware threw in ME2 for FREE with each purchase of DA2 just to move sales


Do not underestimate your power to make things happen.

In fact if people hold out for just 1 week, you will see some crazy about turns from Bioware

That's the BSN, birth facility of Biodrones. Don't bother, bro. But prepare for "omg who cares, just buy the game" or "shut up"

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

SadisTech wrote...

Deluxe burger: $6
Deluxe burger with fries: $7

OMG F*CK THE COOK AND ALL THE WAITSTAFF FRIES SHOULD BE INCLUDED FOR FREE THEY WERE COOKED AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY ARE PART OF THE BURGER EXPERIENCE

[Errationatus]

Jahannam wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

Those not shelling out extra for the Collector's Edition are feeling butthurt they have to pay more for CE content? When they are actually paying less? How odd. 

Hey rocket scientist...the 10$ Prothean isnt all the content you got with the CE.

I know, but y'all aint' whining about the rest of it, are you?  "Rocket scientist" - cute. Juvenile, but cute.

[OdanUrr]

CrustyBot wrote...

Blarty wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

So... what exactly is this thread about?

As near as I can tell, the main b!tch seems to follow these lines:

<snipped>

I'd say "grow up", but this is BSN.

*golf clap*

a bit heavy handed but I do agree.

*Another golf clap*

And not at all heavy handed given that it's ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOUR PAGES IN

/signed.

You put so eloquently, what many of us were thinking, Jake.

Kudos. I hope everyone in this thread reads your post and reflects on their own opinions afterward.

I'm sorry but I do not "sign." I don't like it when people deal in absolutes.

[Amikae]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Amikae wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

I 100% agree with bioware. True fans bought the collectors edition and they get rewarded with a free DLC. Those that don't bought the normal version either from the start or later on and therefor this should be a DLC that you can buy.

Good Choice from bioware

So BioWare is implying, that those of us who didn't find this CE appealing and just bought the SE, are not proper fans of Mass Effect?

No but we paid extra for the DLC character.. so suck it up... you are too.

No, you paid extra for a Collectors Edition of the game. That implies, that the stuff you get has some kind of collectors value. Instead it's filled with Digital crap, that makes it completely pointless. It's not even a proper CE. It's why I didn't buy it. If I were you, I would have been even more mad, because the CE had digital crap in it, instead of something of real santimental value.

[LivingHitokiri]

Blarty wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Kevin Lozandier wrote...

This content is for long-faithful fans. It's in the Collector's Edition for free rather than be scrapped like some content before DLC was truly feasible. 

Please, let us stop with that particular disingenuous assertion.<_<

Here's a thought - you're a PS3 ME2 owner just what exactly do you care for the Protheans? You came to the Mass Effect franchise mainly through ME2 not ME1, what exactly do you care for the Protheans? If Protheans were completely intergral to the plot after ME1, why were they reduced to a couple of lines dialogue and a few add on artifacts in Liaras apartment (that came in a DLC no less!)? 

I get what you're saying about Protheans being important, but how important is a single survivor (for now) in the current ME3 age?

Some people care about the Prothean, some would prefer them, in their game, to stay dead or at least, not playable.... and others won't care either way
 

This is funny, dunno if you havent played ME2 for long or at all but.
There is this huge DISCOVERY you make in the game which says something about collectors being protheans, there are TONS of discussion about protheans, there is even a mission where you find another beacon, so , what the hell are you talking about exactly ?