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[lrrose]

slawface wrote...

All I wanna know is if DDE will include this DLC. I cant find any specific information. If it does I'm buying it. I dont care how much they try to monetize this game. I have money and I want it.

The digital deluxe edition will include this DLC.

[Daithin]

Robin001 wrote...

!!!       READ THIS      !!!
I bought Witcher 2. I had so much fun and future dlcs for free. And now they release xbox version with bonus content and guess what. I will have it for free too. And not mentioned the fact that classic edition of the game (soundtrack game guide map, bonus content..) looks like CE from different studios. And Witcher is really really good game with great story, adult charakters based on books and famous graphics.
I bought Mass effect 3. I have read spoilers from the game, that are direct from Bioware. This spoilers ruined my game experience. I read that i will not have dlc with protean witch is core in mass effect universe. I look at normal edition of the game (only CD with some advertisment) and it looks like sh*t in comarission with Witcher 2 . I hear crapy excuse of developing dlc after the game,and i know that is not true because of dlcs content and text leaked mounts ago. 
Reaction :
I cancel my preorder copy of ME3 and I am not alone. (saddly because i love ME unniverse). Really not alone.

This is ****ty marketing model. Fans are sensitive and they dont like being lied and not respected.

!!!      REACT ON THIS BIOWARE      !!!

Bolding parts of your text does not make your emphasis clear. Just to let you know. It Sounds more like your decision to buy or rather not buy the game is entirely based on your own failings. You spoiled the plot by reading that information. Don’t blame Bioware for your own bad decisions.

You assume the Prothean is integral. Except it’s not. I love the History and Lore behind Mass Effect as much as the next Space Opera junky. However, the Prothean's are dead. Likely still are, regardless of this one character. They set up how we had a fighting chance, but the only thing this Character is likely to provide is a clarification and juxtaposition on history we already know. Likely bringing a few new facts that we might not have known.

The importance of this character is entirely manufactured by your own mind. Not Bioware. The fact you want to know why the Prothean exists at all is actually a credit to Bioware.

[Goth Skunk]

finc.loki wrote...

That would explain why you're still stupid then.

That's rich, coming from you.

If I'm 'stupid,' you're a 'mongoloid.'

I'll take stupid any day over that.

[realguile]

[quote]

What about the true fans like me who can't afford big fancy collectors edition like i said a few posts up i had to save up 3 weeks to get the 60 euro needed to buy me3. My country is in a recession i have 2 young sons i have to pay my ex girlfriend 250 child support and i get about 300 to feed myself and pay the bills a lot more people like me are true me fans but we can't afford these dlc that should be in the game.[/quote]



[/quote]Fool you have more issues than DLC. handle your business and take care of you damn responsibilites! How the hell can you come in here and blame bioware for not giving you free **** because your ass is broke while the rest of us have to pay full price?

man the hell up and take care of your business. If you come on here and grip about crap like this when you have all those issues then you need to slap some sense into your head.

God damn.

[slawface]

lrrose wrote...

slawface wrote...

All I wanna know is if DDE will include this DLC. I cant find any specific information. If it does I'm buying it. I dont care how much they try to monetize this game. I have money and I want it.

The digital deluxe edition will include this DLC.

Thanks.

[Liara T]

Robin001 wrote...

!!!       READ THIS      !!!
I bought Witcher 2. I had so much fun and future dlcs for free. And now they release xbox version with bonus content and guess what. I will have it for free too. And not mentioned the fact that classic edition of the game (soundtrack game guide map, bonus content..) looks like CE from different studios. And Witcher is really really good game with great story, adult charakters based on books and famous graphics.
I bought Mass effect 3. I have read spoilers from the game, that are direct from Bioware. This spoilers ruined my game experience. I read that i will not have dlc with protean witch is core in mass effect universe. I look at normal edition of the game (only CD with some advertisment) and it looks like sh*t in comarission with Witcher 2 . I hear crapy excuse of developing dlc after the game,and i know that is not true because of dlcs content and text leaked mounts ago. 
Reaction :
I cancel my preorder copy of ME3 and I am not alone. (saddly because i love ME unniverse). Really not alone.

This is ****ty marketing model. Fans are sensitive and they dont like being lied and not respected.

!!!      REACT ON THIS BIOWARE      !!!

i like this and i like CD Project, sorry BW but i have enough of your DLC politics.

You will lose a lot fans, time will tell. 

[TK Dude]

mjharper: True. It makes me wonder why some people focus too much on video games when there are bigger problems in the world than this.

[Goth Skunk]

Hardwired wrote...

Then I don't really see how you expect to have an adult conversation with anyone.

In order to have an adult conversation, there needs to be at least 2 adults.

In the conversations with the people I have had on these forums, the only adult present was me.

[mjharper]

nitefyre410 wrote...

mjharper wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

mjharper wrote...

*snip*
"not likely"? That's pretty weak. The $20 extra, as far as I can see, covers the CE content that is not in the SE. Anything else is supposition.

 

As far as  YOU  see it ...  key words  there.   

No, not as far as I see it. The SE contains A, B, and C. The CE contains A, B, C, D, and E. The extra cost covers D and E. Saying that the SE should also cover D, and therefore the cost of the CE covers only E, is just rubbish. Try getting that kind of logic past your math teacher, and see what happens.

  

So playable  and usable characters  that were created durning the game development cycle are somehow now CE extra's?

Okay. 

Playable and user characters which were always advertised as being a part of the CE, and not part of the SE, and which Bioware has stated were created independently from the main development cycle - yes, they are CE extras.

Modifié par mjharper, 23 février 2012 - 03:12 .

[lrrose]

The thing about the Witcher 2 is that it is short, incredibly sexist to the point where it reinforces all negative stereotypes about gamers and I can't create my own character or even customize his appearance.

[TheStoner]

Goth Skunk wrote...

foo man chew wrote...

Nope, it takes money to make the game and DLC, so it's fair they charge money to cover their costs. The product is finished and the DLC is bonus content. I don't get used, I get a product for my money. So holding content out of the game to charge you is ok. So i guess the next time you use a public restroom they should charge you because hey they have electricity and running water.Lets not forget toilet paper thats not free.Why not charge extra for the game case or we could make you pay extra for every companion in the game.Why stop with content that was purposely held out from the finished game.It seems like people love paying extra for what should be in the game in the first place.

The game is complete without the DLC. You're getting a complete product for the money you spent.

At no point will the game be 'unplayable' without the DLC.

Adding the DLC just adds to the experience. But to get that experience, you have to pay a premium.

I see no problem with this.

For those that do, I mock you. Openly.

Playable/= complete

It's funny that you call other people stupid and yet lack any intelligible arguments.

[Poison_Berrie]

mjharper wrote...

Because I want to play the game. I work, I earn money, I spend money. But pretending that Bioware charging for Day 1 DLC is "the best example of what is going wrong in our world in modern times" is to have no prespective on life whatsoever.

In the end, it's just a game, not a sign that the world is about to end.

I think he was more linking it to corporate policy and how everything is more and more designed to sqeeuze money from us for things that used to be more or less accepted to be part of the product.

You don't need to relate everything in live back to Somalia or Darfur.

[Chrillze]

Witcher 2 wasn't short and it wasn't sexist either

Modifié par Chrillze, 23 février 2012 - 03:15 .

[japkosalav]

Thanks Mike you just save me bunch of money! I was't sure until now, i won't buy ME3.
The way you treat your customers its unaccetable (you just crossed the line). Thank you for helping me with my decision.
Lets see if people will pirate ME3 more, i bet they will.

[Almostfaceman]

foo man chew wrote...

Nope, it takes money to make the game and DLC, so it's fair they charge money to cover their costs. The product is finished and the DLC is bonus content. I don't get used, I get a product for my money.

So holding content out of the game to charge you is ok. So i guess the next time you use a public restroom they should charge you because hey they have electricity and running water.Lets not forget toilet paper thats not free.Why not charge extra for the game case or we could make you pay extra for every companion in the game.Why stop with content that was purposely held out from the finished game.It seems like people love paying extra for what should be in the game in the first place.

First, the quote button is your friend.

Second, we do pay for all those things. Ever heard of taxes?

It's your opinion that the DLC should have been in the game. It's my opinion that it's bonus content. So, your examples don't work for me. I can and do decide for myself what is and is not bonus content. I talked to the developers and I don't think they're lying.

Now, if you can show me, through facts, that the Day 1 DLC is NOT bonus material, finished after the main game was completed, I may start to agree with you. But you don't have those facts, you just have an opinion. Which you're entitled to, but it's not convincing.

[Hardwired]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Hardwired wrote...

Then I don't really see how you expect to have an adult conversation with anyone.

In order to have an adult conversation, there needs to be at least 2 adults.

In the conversations with the people I have had on these forums, the only adult present was me.

I disagree.

While I have seen several people reply to you in a less than civil manner, I have also seen several cases where you degrade and insult peoples rightful opinion. As you yourself stated that you would "openly mock" those that had that certain opinion.
That, to me, is abusive and juvenile behavior.

[Takamori The Templar]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Hardwired wrote...

Then I don't really see how you expect to have an adult conversation with anyone.

In order to have an adult conversation, there needs to be at least 2 adults.

In the conversations with the people I have had on these forums, the only adult present was me.

You are so adult as this guy

[Foxtrot_212]

Are you people ****ing Serious? Its OPTIONAL. We are in a recession, Im sure bioware and EA need money to pay off licensing for their games. INFACT for the game engine they used they need too sell around 50,000 Dollars worth too actually get the first marketing use of it paid off. So please for the love of god stop whining like babies.

Read Below:

If you create a games or commercial applications using UDK for sale or distribution to an end-user or client, or if you are providing services in connection with a UDK based game or application, the per-seat option does not apply. Instead the license terms for this arrangement are US $99 up-front, and a 0% royalty on you or your company's first US$50,000 in UDK related revenue from all your UDK based games or commercial applications, and a 25% royalty on UDK related revenue from all your UDK based games or commercial applications above US$50,000. UDK related revenue includes, but is not limited to, monies earned from: sales, services, training, advertisements, sponsorships, endorsements, memberships, subscription fees, in-game transactions, rentals and pay-to-play. You or your company will only need one commercial license to cover all the UDK based games or commercial applications you develop.
Here are some examples:

A warehouse company uses UDK to create an application for employee safety training. They develop it on one computer and then install the resulting application on two computers for their internal employees to use. They require a single UDK development seat license for a total cost of US$2,500 per year, for as long as they use UDK to develop and/or maintain the application.
A team creates a game with UDK that they intend to sell. After six months of development, they release the game through digital distribution and they earn US$60,000 in the first calendar quarter after release. Their use of UDK during development requires no fee. At some point prior to the UDK Application’s release they will need to secure a royalty-bearing commercial UDK license with its US$99 license fee. After earning US$60,000, they would be required to pay Epic US$2,500 (US$0 on the first US$50,000 in revenue, and US$2,500 on the next US$10,000 in revenue). On subsequent revenue, they are required to pay the 25% royalty.
An architecture firm uses UDK to create a live walk-through presentation for their customers. They charge their customers a fee of US$500 for each walk-through. Before they begin to charge customers for the walk-through, they would pay Epic US$99 for a royalty-bearing commercial UDK license. They sell walk-through presentations to 100 customers in the first quarter, bringing in US$50,000 in revenue. No royalty payment would be required to Epic for that first US$50,000. In the second quarter, they sell another 100 walk-through presentations, bringing in another US$50,000 in revenue. They are required to pay US$12,500 to Epic. On subsequent revenue, they are required to pay the 25% royalty.
The UDK Commercial Use License may be executed by an individual or a corporate entity. If an unincorporated team wishes to license UDK, we recommend setting up a simple corporation or partnership for the team before contacting us for a license. If that is not feasible, please designate a single individual to contact us who will be responsible for executing the license and fulfilling the terms.

A note to developers under the age of consent (minors): Please have your parents contact us for a UDK Commercial Use License, as we cannot enter into a license agreement with a minor.

If you have any questions about licensing UDK or require custom license terms, source code licenses, or use on consoles please email udklicensing@epicgames.com for more information.


AND THATS JUST THE FREE VERSION. Jesus, imagine how much they are paying for the full Licensing for the Unreal Engine. Jesus people stop whining. Its the way the Economy is. ALSO the only way to jump start an economy is to spend, and that means getting money flowing through the economy, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Stop begging Bioware for a change. I support helping them with their games as they make good games. I dont care too buy DLC.

[Goth Skunk]

TheStoner wrote...

Playable/= complete

It's funny that you call other people stupid and yet lack any intelligible arguments.

Your definition of 'playable' is my definition of 'complete.' If I can take the game at it's most basic form, begin it and finish it without any add-ons or the like, then it is complete.

Any add-ons tacked on afterward therefore become a welcome bonus.

Intelligible arguments are not needed in the faces of critics of "From Ashes," because while they wrongly classify THEIR arguments and criticisms as viable, I RIGHTLY classify them as whining.

[CaptainChip]

I said it before and I'll say it again: They should've never made a Prothean companion in the first place.

His very existence would've angered people, because he's part of a race that's been extinct for 50,000 years, and many would want him to be important to the plot. The making him DLC part only made it worse.

Protheans should've stayed dead.

Modifié par CaptainChip, 23 février 2012 - 03:21 .

[Robin001]

This is my original text, which some people ruined.

 !!!       READ THIS      !!!


I bought Witcher 2. I had so much fun and future dlcs for free. And now they release xbox version with bonus content and guess what. I will have it for free too. And not mentioned the fact that classic edition of the game (soundtrack game guide map, bonus content..) looks like CE from different studios. And Witcher is really really good game with great story, adult charakters based on books and famous graphics.


I bought Mass effect 3. I have read spoilers from the game, that are direct from Bioware. This spoilers ruined my game experience. I read that i will not have dlc with protean witch is core in mass effect universe. I look at normal edition of the game (only CD with some advertisment) and it looks like sh*t in comarission with Witcher 2 . I hear crapy excuse of developing dlc after the game,and i know that is not true because of dlcs content and text leaked mounts ago. 


Reaction :I cancel my preorder copy of ME3 and I am not alone. (saddly because i love ME unniverse). Really not alone.
This is ****ty marketing model. Fans are sensitive and they dont like being lied and not respected.
!!!      REACT ON THIS BIOWARE      !!!

[Almostfaceman]

Daithin wrote...

Bolding parts of your text does not make your emphasis clear. Just to let you know. It Sounds more like your decision to buy or rather not buy the game is entirely based on your own failings. You spoiled the plot by reading that information. Don’t blame Bioware for your own bad decisions.

You assume the Prothean is integral. Except it’s not. I love the History and Lore behind Mass Effect as much as the next Space Opera junky. However, the Prothean's are dead. Likely still are, regardless of this one character. They set up how we had a fighting chance, but the only thing this Character is likely to provide is a clarification and juxtaposition on history we already know. Likely bringing a few new facts that we might not have known.

The importance of this character is entirely manufactured by your own mind. Not Bioware. The fact you want to know why the Prothean exists at all is actually a credit to Bioware.

Win. 

[Goth Skunk]

Hardwired wrote...

I disagree.

While I have seen several people reply to you in a less than civil manner, I have also seen several cases where you degrade and insult peoples rightful opinion. As you yourself stated that you would "openly mock" those that had that certain opinion.
That, to me, is abusive and juvenile behavior.

Feel free to disagree.

Watch me not give a damn.

Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

[Takamori The Templar]

Foxtrot_212 wrote...

-snip-

So you want to incentive the consumers by ****ing then up?
Creating ****storm like this?
Ok.

[Goth Skunk]

Robin001 wrote...

This is my original text, which some people ruined.

 !!!       IGNORE THIS      !!!


I bought Witcher 2. I had so much fun and future dlcs for free. And now they release xbox version with bonus content and guess what. I will have it for free too. And not mentioned the fact that classic edition of the game (soundtrack game guide map, bonus content..) looks like CE from different studios. And Witcher is really really good game with great story, adult charakters based on books and famous graphics.


I bought Mass effect 3. I have read spoilers from the game, that are direct from Bioware. This spoilers ruined my game experience. I read that i will not have dlc with protean witch is core in mass effect universe. I look at normal edition of the game (only CD with some advertisment) and it looks like sh*t in comarission with Witcher 2 . I hear crapy excuse of developing dlc after the game,and i know that is not true because of dlcs content and text leaked mounts ago. 


Reaction :I cancel my preorder copy of ME3 and I am not alone. (saddly because i love ME unniverse). Really not alone.
This is ****ty marketing model. Fans are sensitive and they dont like being lied and not respected.
!!!     YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BIOWARE      !!!

You made those mistakes again. I fixed it. Again.