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[MakeMineMako]

I'm very disappointed with BSN right now, judging from the ridiculous reactions to this announcement.

Bioware/EA is giving owners of the Standard Edition a chance to buy, and download, something that we, who pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, are getting in the package. I figured that more folks would be friggin' happy at the prospect. But I guess not.

It's optional DLC. Period. It's not necessary for the game. And unless somebody can provide me some hard proof that it was cut from the main game, I'm not buying into that line of bullsh*t. I consider it typical internet conjured crap that net dwellers typically freak out about. Nothing more. People need to think, and get some hard evidence before crucifying Bioware. The leaked script isn't enough, in my opinion, to do that.

And before some under aged basement dweller or entitlement class ass clown decides to peg me as a "Biodrone" or EA apologist, I will let it be known that I'm not a big fan of Electronic Arts. And Mass Effect is the only Bioware game I really give two sh*ts about. So, skip it. I'm only voicing my opinion based on the available facts on the issue. I've been an electronic gamer since the days of coin arcades in the late '70's and early '80's. I've seen some truly crappy things come out of the gaming industry over the years, and this deal with the Promethean DLC isn't one of them from what I can see. All of this hoopla isn't necessary at this point.

If somebody doesn't like it, don't buy the damned game or DLC. Somebody else, who isn't a drama queen over nothing other than some ****** poor supposition, will buy it.

As for the Mass Effect development team, I want to say that I do appreciate the work you've put into the Mass Effect franchise over the years. Even if I didn't agree with everything incorporated into the games, you guys have done a fairly good job at keeping me entertained in front of my console. But I highly doubt you will ever read this statement of thanks, because it will require sorting through 143+ pages of sh*tstorm to see it.

Stay classy, BSN.

[TK Dude]

Yuoaman: This. Can we please focus on this issue rather than recycling DA2 as an argument why Bioware will die?

[Takamori The Templar]

Yuoaman wrote...


This topic is absolutely not one in which to discuss Dragon Age II, which was developed by a completely different team. This is to discuss this specific DLC for Mass Effect 3.

Still they both share the company philosophies and absorbing DA2 policy of giving nothing at release to SE consumers, means a bad pressage.

[Exia001]

Yuoaman wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Sure.
And btw Shale and Zaeed was a method to avoid used games.
So they technically would be there if there wasn't any dlc .
I wouldn't miss at all those content.
And before you say oh then you didn't play it at all.
I did for DA:O, ME1 and ME2.
DA2 was a piece of **** an abortion made by bioware that I had the displeasure of playing it so didn't get any of the DLC made (thank god that I only paid 20 bucks)

Then don't buy them!

You're not being forced to buy any DLC to play the game. You're missing out on some kick-ass content, but that's your choice.

And shut up about Dragon Age 2. Your further opinions are now invalid.

Oh I touched your wound?
Bad Writing, Dumbfied Combat and just 2 companions with a decent story.

Deal with it.

I was like you back in the days, I remember Mass Effect 1, free DLC came with it , the Bring Down the Skies and then I got the Pinacle station, 1 hour of shooting target training, was fun.

Then came Dragon Ages Origins, saw Shale(A well done character that influenced on Orzamaar missions) on my disc box, I was like oh thats what my friend meant about controlling the used games market, it was fun, and plenty of time to enjoy.Felt the game was hand crafted, then DLC's came, return to Ostagar and Wardens keep, they charged 13 bucks for both basically.Didn't felt that they were worth the price of 13 bucks, but still they brought a great game with plenty of replayability, they deserve the money.
Got the Awakening expansion and the last remaining DLC's

Mass Effect 2 released, I got worried with the fact they removed some of the rpg features(Exploration) and animations (crouch animation) and added a boring element(scanning I'm looking at you).But still the story was satisfying, they had Zaeed ( Ok character, but they could had explored more , since its the founder of Blue Suns for Christ Sake).Had a decent replayability too, bought the DLC's with the same thought, give money better game etc etc.

Now Dragon Age 2, saw the uproar, I was thinking hell people are overreactin over the game, had some business to do , didn't got it during the release.I thought myself well no problem I can get it later.

Saw the game later in the promotion bin, picked it up and thought that was my lucky day.
Opened the box , looking for the good old code for my character, just received a code for a store and a dog(Find out that the dog was just a summon spell).
Played it and saw a violent decrease on the quality overall, artwork,writing, gameplay...
I finished the game in 2 days, I was in shock because I said to myself, I didn't play a bioware game at all.


Now I see this and expect that I go " im ok with this?"
You are lying to yourself.

This topic is absolutely not one in which to discuss Dragon Age II, which was developed by a completely different team. This is to discuss this specific DLC for Mass Effect 3.

Hes lying to himself?

Dear God he doesnt share the same veiw as you and just wants to enjoy games. The SHAME!

[Daywalker315]

TheStoner wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Instead of the CE owners complaining that the SE owners are complaining that they didn't get the same thing as them, wouldn't it make more sense if the Collectors got something like a ME3 poster signed by the VO cast, instead of ingame things that change the gameplay, then everyone is playing the same game, enjoying the same thing, but the CE owners get something cool, that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

CE owners are after all suposed to be collectors.

So why are you all here complaining about something that doesn't matter to you, let the anti 1 day DLC crowd have there thread, go create a "we would like a mass effect 3 poster and signed memorabilia" thread or something instead.

This.

Sure, I would love to have that and let this be free to everyone. But the simple fact of the matter is that's not the case. It's been marketed as a CE bonus for months and I bought the CE mostly for that reason. Other people should have to pay for it. If that were to change and they gave this away for free and decided to reward CE buyers with something else, I'd be alright with that too. Basically what I'm saying is no matter what, I don't overreact about a few dollars or have a heart attack over something like this. It's a game. It's optional DLC. Buy it or don't.

[Descedent]

MrBinky wrote...

wtf bioware...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.

 
 
 

Deal with it.

ill just leave this here

[Goth Skunk]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Oh I touched your wound?
Bad Writing, Dumbfied Combat and just 2 companions with a decent story.

Deal with it.

I was like you back in the days, I remember Mass Effect 1, free DLC came with it , the Bring Down the Skies and then I got the Pinacle station, 1 hour of shooting target training, was fun.

Then came Dragon Ages Origins, saw Shale(A well done character that influenced on Orzamaar missions) on my disc box, I was like oh thats what my friend meant about controlling the used games market, it was fun, and plenty of time to enjoy.Felt the game was hand crafted, then DLC's came, return to Ostagar and Wardens keep, they charged 13 bucks for both basically.Didn't felt that they were worth the price of 13 bucks, but still they brought a great game with plenty of replayability, they deserve the money.
Got the Awakening expansion and the last remaining DLC's

Mass Effect 2 released, I got worried with the fact they removed some of the rpg features(Exploration) and animations (crouch animation) and added a boring element(scanning I'm looking at you).But still the story was satisfying, they had Zaeed ( Ok character, but they could had explored more , since its the founder of Blue Suns for Christ Sake).Had a decent replayability too, bought the DLC's with the same thought, give money better game etc etc.

Now Dragon Age 2, saw the uproar, I was thinking hell people are overreactin over the game, had some business to do , didn't got it during the release.I thought myself well no problem I can get it later.

Saw the game later in the promotion bin, picked it up and thought that was my lucky day.
Opened the box , looking for the good old code for my character, just received a code for a store and a dog(Find out that the dog was just a summon spell).
Played it and saw a violent decrease on the quality overall, artwork,writing, gameplay...
I finished the game in 2 days, I was in shock because I said to myself, I didn't play a bioware game at all.


Now I see this and expect that I go " im ok with this?"
You are lying to yourself.

The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

[BigBody26]

Let me start by saying that I still have the collectors edition pre ordered and I will be playing the "From Ashes" dlc. But I have to ask what Bioware is thinking making a Prothean squadmate? I will give them the chance to tell a convincing story as to how that is possible. I will give BW the benefit of the doubt. However, I cannot think of a way this works or makes logical sense. Did some survive? If so, how did no one ever stumble upon them by accident? Or, how come they didn't make themselves known thousands of years ago, warn the galaxy about the Reapers, and give us time to mount an offensive while the Reapers hybernated in dark space? Is there only one surviving Prothean? Again, where has it been the past 50,000 years? How did it survive?There are so many questions that I imagine it will be nearly impossible to create a believable story as to how this will happen. However, I will give Bioware the chance to tell a convincing story come March 6th. My biggest problem with thus though is that if done wrong it could discredit the entire story. The Protheans were extinct then we learned many of them were repurposed as Collectors. Convincing story and a nice twist. Believable. Now there is at least one still alive? To me, this has the potential to be a disaster if not handled right and, unfortunately, there are so many questions I can't see a way of this working well. This decision, more than anything else, has me very skeptical of ME3. I want it to be a great & amazing game. I have my doubts now though.

[Robin001]

Daywalker315 wrote...

Robin001 wrote...

Look at this :


Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3



  

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.

I posted it only 2 times (because i want to get title for this which i forgot) so only 2 times. 140 pages / 2 is 70 post ! And i mean in comparison with other comments it has so much more value. So next time do math before post nonsence.

[Descedent]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

Did you play something we all didn't play. cause that game was pretty much a piece of crap

[Oilking72]

The PLC wrote...

If the DLC was developed after the game was finished, then how come there's voice files from the Prothean in the demo files?

Nobody said that they didn't plan for it.  Gamble already said that they did some work with regards to the VO that had to be put into the main game.  That's a far cry from all the other work that goes into making the DLC and it being finished before the main game was finished.

The amount of lulz in this thread is hitting new heights.  Outstanding BSN. 

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, that's for sure.

[AkiKishi]

Korvmannen wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Over 22,000 likes and under a 1000 dislikes that's quite a majority.

I'm waiting to see what the reviewers make of it.

And of those 22,000 maybe 3,000 were actual pre-orderers of the game. Maybe 1,500 of them will actually cancel their pre-order over it.

Where did you get those numbers from?

I got mine from here.

I think his are made up.

[aries1001]

But From Ashes will still cost US dollars 10 for people who buy the normal version of the game?

[digby69]

this is now just getting boring

[fropas]

Leaser Resael wrote...

Bioware said many times that they were doing their best to make sure the single player was perfect... but how can the single player be perfect if you left a prothean out of the main game? Seriously, they put MP on the disc, but a protehan, who is integral to the Mass Effect Lore and story, is left out?
Something is wrong here...

You don't need the prothean. He's the last member of an extinct race and not integral to the plot. If he is integral to you enjoying the game then you can buy him (like I did) or not. That's up to you. You can still beat the game without him.

[appleroof76]

I am a fan of the series, I bought both of the previous episodes and related dlc, but this move makes crap: despite being passionate I took the "normal" version of Mass Effect 3 and and seems like nearly a scam to force people like me who has curiosity about Prothean and their history to spend more, now you don't have passion for video games anymore, LEARN FROM CDP and their Witcher 2, mercenaries!

[Descedent]

The PLC wrote...

300000 views on the youtube video.. not good publicity, Bioware.

300000+ views in less than 24hrs...

[GnusmasTHX]

The PLC wrote...

300000 views on the youtube video.. not good publicity, Bioware.

That's assuming even half of them care, and even half of that will do anything about it.

[Takamori The Templar]

Goth Skunk wrote...



The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Not what the consumers said.
And sorry, I played the game, its ok you can have your opinion regarding that you loved it , I admit that the last sentence of the post was a mistake, but still.
Majority and my personal said that was lower quality.

[Daywalker315]

OdanUrr wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.

You realise every time you quote it you're, essentially, re-posting it, right?

Yeah, haha I realized that right after doing it. Oops.

[mjharper]

TheStoner wrote...

mjharper wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

mjharper wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Can someone explain me why this topic has got 145 pages in 18 hours ?

because we some gamers/consumers are upset against Bioware by doing this kind of r@pe toward to us. 

Corrected.

i dont see why you take their side into this matter so your okay with giving money for something that should have been included in the game ? its not just some random character like zaed was... its a prothean, plus dlc day 1 is never a yes, but okay bioware representative. 

"should have been included in the game" - that's the problem. Who says it should have been included? As I and others are tired of saying, this 'DLC' was announced months ago as being a part of the CE. It has always been clear that it wasn't going to be part of the SE. Should, could, would are irrelevant. 

It doesn't matter when it was announced it's still bad. As a side note saying 'should' is irrelevent is a statement that ethics is irrelevent which is stupid.

No it isn't. Ethics is not only about theory, but also practice. Once a given event happens, discussion of whether it should have happened become moot.

And, since you brought ethics into the discussion, Schopenhauer argued that the word 'ought' should be removed from the discussion of ethics. It's a form of tyranny.

[Alpr]

Mass Effect 3 (And possibly C&C: Generals 2) will be the last games I purchase from EA and Bioware. I'll just laugh at Dragon Age 3.