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[Goth Skunk]

Descedent wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

Did you play something we all didn't play. cause that game was pretty much a piece of crap

Then let's agree to respect each others opinions, no matter how wrong yours might be.

[TK Dude]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

The PLC wrote...

300000 views on the youtube video.. not good publicity, Bioware.

That's assuming even half of them care, and even half of that will do anything about it.

[Yuoaman]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...



The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Not what the consumers said.
And sorry, I played the game, its ok you can have your opinion regarding that you loved it , I admit that the last sentence of the post was a mistake, but still.
Majority and my personal said that was lower quality.

Again, Dragon Age II has no bearing on this discussion - the game was developed by an entirely different team within Bioware. Try to stay on topic guys. :\\

[Daywalker315]

Korvmannen wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Over 22,000 likes and under a 1000 dislikes that's quite a majority.

I'm waiting to see what the reviewers make of it.

And of those 22,000 maybe 3,000 were actual pre-orderers of the game. Maybe 1,500 of them will actually cancel their pre-order over it.

Where did you get those numbers from?

Notice the "maybe"? Speculative. The guy has a rabid fan-base apparently even though he just rants in an English accent. It's highly doubtful that everyone who watches his videos and clicks the thumbs up button is someone who preordered ME3 and will now cancel it.

[Goth Skunk]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...



The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Not what the consumers said.
And sorry, I played the game, its ok you can have your opinion regarding that you loved it , I admit that the last sentence of the post was a mistake, but still.
Majority and my personal said that was lower quality.

Hivemind Hate

Hivemind

[obie191970]

rob593 wrote...

Instead of the CE owners complaining that the SE owners are complaining that they didn't get the same thing as them, wouldn't it make more sense if the Collectors got something like a ME3 poster signed by the VO cast, instead of ingame things that change the gameplay, then everyone is playing the same game, enjoying the same thing, but the CE owners get something cool, that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

CE owners are after all suposed to be collectors.

So why are you all here complaining about something that doesn't matter to you, let the anti 1 day DLC crowd have there thread, go create a "we would like a mass effect 3 poster and signed memorabilia" thread or something instead.

I would guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of people who purchased the CE did so for the fact that it included an extra character and mission and not some patch and a postcard sized art book.

[Descedent]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Descedent wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

Did you play something we all didn't play. cause that game was pretty much a piece of crap

Then let's agree to respect each others opinions, no matter how wrong yours might be.

[TK Dude]

Yuoaman wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...



The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Not what the consumers said.
And sorry, I played the game, its ok you can have your opinion regarding that you loved it , I admit that the last sentence of the post was a mistake, but still.
Majority and my personal said that was lower quality.

Again, Dragon Age II has no bearing on this discussion - the game was developed by an entirely different team within Bioware. Try to stay on topic guys. :

Like that would happen. BSN will and will always use DA2 as a ''proof'' that Bioware has gone downhill no matter what.

[Exia001]

BigBody26 wrote...

Let me start by saying that I still have the collectors edition pre ordered and I will be playing the "From Ashes" dlc. But I have to ask what Bioware is thinking making a Prothean squadmate? I will give them the chance to tell a convincing story as to how that is possible. I will give BW the benefit of the doubt. However, I cannot think of a way this works or makes logical sense. Did some survive? If so, how did no one ever stumble upon them by accident? Or, how come they didn't make themselves known thousands of years ago, warn the galaxy about the Reapers, and give us time to mount an offensive while the Reapers hybernated in dark space? Is there only one surviving Prothean? Again, where has it been the past 50,000 years? How did it survive?There are so many questions that I imagine it will be nearly impossible to create a believable story as to how this will happen. However, I will give Bioware the chance to tell a convincing story come March 6th. My biggest problem with thus though is that if done wrong it could discredit the entire story. The Protheans were extinct then we learned many of them were repurposed as Collectors. Convincing story and a nice twist. Believable. Now there is at least one still alive? To me, this has the potential to be a disaster if not handled right and, unfortunately, there are so many questions I can't see a way of this working well. This decision, more than anything else, has me very skeptical of ME3. I want it to be a great & amazing game. I have my doubts now though.

Paragraphs meet Bigbody, Bigbody, Paragraphs

[Goth Skunk]

Descedent wrote...

Okay. I chuckled.

But I'm serious..

[TheStoner]

Daywalker315 wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Instead of the CE owners complaining that the SE owners are complaining that they didn't get the same thing as them, wouldn't it make more sense if the Collectors got something like a ME3 poster signed by the VO cast, instead of ingame things that change the gameplay, then everyone is playing the same game, enjoying the same thing, but the CE owners get something cool, that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

CE owners are after all suposed to be collectors.

So why are you all here complaining about something that doesn't matter to you, let the anti 1 day DLC crowd have there thread, go create a "we would like a mass effect 3 poster and signed memorabilia" thread or something instead.

This.

Sure, I would love to have that and let this be free to everyone. But the simple fact of the matter is that's not the case. It's been marketed as a CE bonus for months and I bought the CE mostly for that reason. Other people should have to pay for it. If that were to change and they gave this away for free and decided to reward CE buyers with something else, I'd be alright with that too. Basically what I'm saying is no matter what, I don't overreact about a few dollars or have a heart attack over something like this. It's a game. It's optional DLC. Buy it or don't.

If you ever thought that this was made for the collectors edition that's a failure of analysis on your side and I wouldn't like to be lumped with the consequences thanks. I would love to not be able to overreact over £10 but thats just not money I have right now.

[nightcobra]

 just sent my open letter to bioware, i doubt it's going to do much if at anything at all but it can't hurt to try at least.

i'll post it here for good measure anyway:




good afternoon from a fan in portugal.
i came here today to send my thoughts on the matter of how bioware/EA chose to release the day 1 DLC of mass effect 3. i love the games and i want to see the 3rd installment succeed as much as the next person but i'm sorry to say that you're not giving me a choice in this matter. in ME2, the day one DLC (Zaeed) was free in order to combat used sales and incentivate buying the game new correct? and that was also the case with the first dragon age with shale if i'm not mistaken. as far as i know that strategy succeeded and if so why was it necessary to limit the free day 1 DLC practice to only the collection's edition this time around, was there any specific reason for this at all?  it seems to me that instead of incentivating people to buy the game new, this would have the opposite effect and incentivate the used sales market for mainly two reasons:
first, the N7 editions are limited if i'm not mistaken and that means only an handful of people get this DLC free as opposed to the larger market of people that will be getting the standard edition.
second, the retail stores will exploit this by lowering the price of the used game and sell to their customers. even though in ME2 you had to pay in order to get zaeed if it was an used game now that point is moot in ME3 since the standard edition new game users will also have to pay to get a prothean (a living prothean, one of the most important species in the mass effect universe might i add as opposed to a human mercenary like zaeed) and as such the used game is far more enticing than buying it new.

i sincerely hope you take my views and of other people into consideration and return to ME2's day one DLC business practice, ie, that means making the "from ashes" DLC free to people who buy the game new. that is the only condition i'm prepared to accept, otherwise i am sorry to say that i will have to join the boycott and not buy mass effect 3 at all as much as it pains me to do so.i really hope it does not come to that.

sincerely,XXXXXXX XXXXXXX (no i'm not going to post my name in here as i did in the open letter) 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 23 février 2012 - 04:46 .

[Goth Skunk]

TK Dude wrote...

Like that would happen. BSN will and will always use DA2 as a ''proof'' that Bioware has gone downhill no matter what.

Then BSN is a cesspool, and every negative opinion should be ignored.

Scratch that.

That means that the sequel can only be better. And if I thought Dragon Age 2 was great, then I'm gonna be leaps and bounds more impressed by Dragon Age 3 than any of the rest of you.

I win.

Modifié par Goth Skunk, 23 février 2012 - 04:48 .

[nitefyre410]

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

[redBadger14]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...


This topic is absolutely not one in which to discuss Dragon Age II, which was developed by a completely different team. This is to discuss this specific DLC for Mass Effect 3.

Still they both share the company philosophies and absorbing DA2 policy of giving nothing at release to SE consumers, means a bad pressage.

No, it doesn't. Hence why Dragon Age and Mass Effect are developed by two totally different teams. No design philosophies, with exception to dialogue wheels and superb story and characters, are shared.

It is there where the similarities end between the two BioWare teams.

Edit: And Metacritic is not the best source for reliable consumer reviews, just so you guys are aware.

Modifié par redBadger14, 23 février 2012 - 04:46 .

[Takamori The Templar]

Goth Skunk wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Goth Skunk wrote...



The 'uproar' you refer to is called hivemind hate. It happens frequently when it becomes 'cool' to hate certain things. Things like:

-JarJar Binks
-The Prequel Star Wars movies in general
-Nickelback
-Justin Bieber
-Selena Gomez
-The Twilight Saga
-Harry Potter

Hatred borne not out of rational, logical reasoning, but rather because everyone else is doing it.

Dragon Age 2 is by no means a bad game. I loved it, and will gladly play its sequel.

http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Not what the consumers said.
And sorry, I played the game, its ok you can have your opinion regarding that you loved it , I admit that the last sentence of the post was a mistake, but still.
Majority and my personal said that was lower quality.

Hivemind Hate

Hivemind

If It was simple hivemind hate man, the meta score would be like 900 positive reviews and 500 negative reviews(still tons of hate reviews, but people would say: hey you are wrong the game is good), I would have enjoyed because like I stated on my previous post, I was finding that was pretty bull**** , all the poo being slinged over the game.
So my mind was like, its gonna enjoyable.But didn't get that feel from the game at all.

P.S:Harry Potter is far away from being hivemind hate o.-

[Daywalker315]

Robin001 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Robin001 wrote...

Look at this :


Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3


 

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.

I posted it only 2 times (because i want to get title for this which i forgot) so only 2 times. 140 pages / 2 is 70 post ! And i mean in comparison with other comments it has so much more value. So next time do math before post nonsence.

ME post nonsense? At least spell nonsense correctly ... I've been trying to talk people off the ledge for the last day. I've been being reasonable for the most part with a few exceptions being people that aren't at least making defensible positions on it. I understand that people wish this was in the main game but it's always been DLC for the CE day 1 and now it's available to everyone else too. It's not the best arrangement but that's just how it is.

And I wasn't referring specifically to just you posting the video. Multiple people have been reposting it along the way. You were just the most recent.

[rob593]

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

[Leaser Resael]

fropas wrote...

Leaser Resael wrote...

Bioware said many times that they were doing their best to make sure the single player was perfect... but how can the single player be perfect if you left a prothean out of the main game? Seriously, they put MP on the disc, but a protehan, who is integral to the Mass Effect Lore and story, is left out?
Something is wrong here...

You don't need the prothean. He's the last member of an extinct race and not integral to the plot. If he is integral to you enjoying the game then you can buy him (like I did) or not. That's up to you. You can still beat the game without him.

That's an excuse and you know it, if you want to support this kind of "Day one DLC" thing, do it, but you will not change my mind about this. Protheans ARE important to the story, even in ME3 Protheans are more important than in ME2, so if a Prothean is alive, IT'S important and it should have been in the game.
Besides, you left out the part where I said that MP was included in the game but a Prothean, something that greatly benefits the story is left out as DLC while they said many times that they "Were working to make the best single player experience"? Yeah right... keep telling lies Bioware, it sure will benefit you in the long term...

[Daywalker315]

TheStoner wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Instead of the CE owners complaining that the SE owners are complaining that they didn't get the same thing as them, wouldn't it make more sense if the Collectors got something like a ME3 poster signed by the VO cast, instead of ingame things that change the gameplay, then everyone is playing the same game, enjoying the same thing, but the CE owners get something cool, that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

CE owners are after all suposed to be collectors.

So why are you all here complaining about something that doesn't matter to you, let the anti 1 day DLC crowd have there thread, go create a "we would like a mass effect 3 poster and signed memorabilia" thread or something instead.

This.

Sure, I would love to have that and let this be free to everyone. But the simple fact of the matter is that's not the case. It's been marketed as a CE bonus for months and I bought the CE mostly for that reason. Other people should have to pay for it. If that were to change and they gave this away for free and decided to reward CE buyers with something else, I'd be alright with that too. Basically what I'm saying is no matter what, I don't overreact about a few dollars or have a heart attack over something like this. It's a game. It's optional DLC. Buy it or don't.

If you ever thought that this was made for the collectors edition that's a failure of analysis on your side and I wouldn't like to be lumped with the consequences thanks. I would love to not be able to overreact over £10 but thats just not money I have right now.

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.

[bennyjammin79]

Oh cool, I found a potato chip in my sofa. (nomnomnom)

[Arsenal0602]

Hey that guy over there has the same car as me but it has a 6 CD changer in it?

That is bull crap I don't care if he did pay more for his car then I paid for mine, I want a 6 CD changer for free GM, you greedy jerks give me my CD player. I hte you GM I'll never buy one of your cars again

[TK Dude]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

Can I join?

[fropas]

rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.

[fl0wers]

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.