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#3726
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You know some argue that there's the Online Pass for people that bought it new and that the Multiplayer is like Zaeed and Shale...

So... I for one would happily trade in the Multiplayer Online Pass for the DLC...
Why not make it optional "DLC or Multiplayer"?
Either way if I want the other I have to pay 10$ to EA... so why not simply give me a choice?

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Arsenal0602 wrote...

Hey that guy over there has the same car as me but it has a 6 CD changer in it?

That is bull crap I don't care if he did pay more for his car then I paid for mine, I want a 6 CD changer for free GM, you greedy jerks give me my CD player. I hte you GM I'll never buy one of your cars again


Now, now. That kind of logic has no business hanging around here.

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Daywalker315 wrote...

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.


I go t the CE of ME2 as well, but the SE players never got the collector armor or any of the other CE items  that time around.  You get what you pay for.

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Why is everyone whining so much? I know that the prothean is already in the scipt but listen to this.
it is very likely that the prothean is in the game even when you haven't brought the DLC, and that you do a mission for/with him (or her). But if you have brought the dlc your shepard has an extra brainwave that is able to convince the prothean (after the initial mission) to join your crew and fight the reapers, and you get some sort of loyalty mission with him.

It's fairly logical: fans of the series that broght the special edition and want some more, get a extra sqadmate (yay!), and the poeple that don't really care can get the original game (witch is most likely already filled with awesomnes).

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Daywalker315 wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

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rob593 wrote...

Instead of the CE owners complaining that the SE owners are complaining that they didn't get the same thing as them, wouldn't it make more sense if the Collectors got something like a ME3 poster signed by the VO cast, instead of ingame things that change the gameplay, then everyone is playing the same game, enjoying the same thing, but the CE owners get something cool, that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

CE owners are after all suposed to be collectors.

So why are you all here complaining about something that doesn't matter to you, let the anti 1 day DLC crowd have there thread, go create a "we would like a mass effect 3 poster and signed memorabilia" thread or something instead.


This.


Sure, I would love to have that and let this be free to everyone. But the simple fact of the matter is that's not the case. It's been marketed as a CE bonus for months and I bought the CE mostly for that reason. Other people should have to pay for it. If that were to change and they gave this away for free and decided to reward CE buyers with something else, I'd be alright with that too. Basically what I'm saying is no matter what, I don't overreact about a few dollars or have a heart attack over something like this. It's a game. It's optional DLC. Buy it or don't.


If you ever thought that this was made for the collectors edition that's a failure of analysis on your side and I wouldn't like to be lumped with the consequences thanks. I would love to not be able to overreact over £10 but thats just not money I have right now.


I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.


They said all along the extra character and mission would be available to SE buyers as DLC.  That is what's crazy about this whole mess - People have known about it for 9 months.

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rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


As I said in another response, if they decided to make it free to all new sales and find something else to reward CE owners with, I'd be fine with that. If they gave CE owners a free future weapon pack DL code or something, it would satisfy my "CE value" thing. However, if they decide to reverse it and give it to everyone without giving anything extra to CE owners, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. It's just a few bucks of "value" lost in my CE. Not the end of the world. I'll be too busy saving the galaxy to care.

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TK Dude wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

Can I join?

 


sure.

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fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...


Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


-_- so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.


No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.

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TK Dude wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

Can I join?


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joonsk wrote...

Why is everyone whining so much? I know that the prothean is already in the scipt but listen to this.
it is very likely that the prothean is in the game even when you haven't brought the DLC, and that you do a mission for/with him (or her). But if you have brought the dlc your shepard has an extra brainwave that is able to convince the prothean (after the initial mission) to join your crew and fight the reapers, and you get some sort of loyalty mission with him.

It's fairly logical: fans of the series that broght the special edition and want some more, get a extra sqadmate (yay!), and the poeple that don't really care can get the original game (witch is most likely already filled with awesomnes).


That's still my thought. I think he will show up in the game for plot purposes regardless and you'll just have the ability to recruit him (like Liara in LotSB except permanent).

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Arsenal0602 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.


I go t the CE of ME2 as well, but the SE players never got the collector armor or any of the other CE items  that time around.  You get what you pay for.


But every player received Zaeed and a number of other free DLC - EA had decided that this business model doesn't work, for some reason, and is charging everyone who isn't a "true fan" to pay $10 for a lot of fairly important background information that many fans would want to have in their games.

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Descedent wrote...

TK Dude wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

Can I join?


*snip*



:lol:

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Leaser Resael wrote...

fropas wrote...

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Bioware said many times that they were doing their best to make sure the single player was perfect... but how can the single player be perfect if you left a prothean out of the main game? Seriously, they put MP on the disc, but a protehan, who is integral to the Mass Effect Lore and story, is left out?
Something is wrong here...


You don't need the prothean. He's the last member of an extinct race and not integral to the plot. If he is integral to you enjoying the game then you can buy him (like I did) or not. That's up to you. You can still beat the game without him.


That's an excuse and you know it, if you want to support this kind of "Day one DLC" thing, do it, but you will not change my mind about this. Protheans ARE important to the story, even in ME3 Protheans are more important than in ME2, so if a Prothean is alive, IT'S important and it should have been in the game.
Besides, you left out the part where I said that MP was included in the game but a Prothean, something that greatly benefits the story is left out as DLC while they said many times that they "Were working to make the best single player experience"? Yeah right... keep telling lies Bioware, it sure will benefit you in the long term...


You have no idea what the prothy's impact will be on the story because you haven't played the full game yet. For all we know MP could impact the story more than the prothy will. I don't care if he "should" be in the game. The protheans are dead for the most part and one living one doesn't change that. If you want him pay for him. If not then don't. I'm not making "excuses" saying Bioware has every right to nickle and dime you, but I've already paid for my CE and I don't like the idea of paying for things that other people get for free. Sorry I've paid more so I'm entitled to more; that's just my opinion. You don't need the prothy to beat the game so suck it up.

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Descedent wrote...

MrBinky wrote...

wtf bioware...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.


 
 
 

Deal with it.


ill just leave this here


Just in case anyone missed it.


#3741
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rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...


Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


-_- so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.


No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.


What about post-release DLC? You think it should all be free too despite the large cost involved with creating it? I mean, if I buy LotSB and you don't, doesn't that mean we're no longer playing the same game anymore?

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Rockworm503 wrote...

Descedent wrote...

MrBinky wrote...

wtf bioware...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Stop posting the TotalHalibut video every two pages ... please. It's like you're trying to recruit people to your cult or sell them cheap Viagra.



Deal with it.


ill just leave this here


Just in case anyone missed it.


Haha, SO DAMN HOT! MILK WAS A BAD CHOICE! I immediately regret my decision to say anything about not posting it again. You got me. :D

#3743
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Daywalker315 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...


Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


-_- so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.


No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.


What about post-release DLC? You think it should all be free too despite the large cost involved with creating it? I mean, if I buy LotSB and you don't, doesn't that mean we're no longer playing the same game anymore?


Post DLC is not the same as day 1 DLC, post dlc is an addition to the game after the fact, people have already experienced the base product and are now free to expand it if they so choose, everyone has this right at any time, I am completely for post release DLC to expand a game with no pressure to buy. (as long as what is provided justifies the cost involved, but thats a debate for another day)

I have a problem with the clear division of the community perpetrated by Bioware and/or EA to make money.

Modifié par rob593, 23 février 2012 - 05:00 .


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I don't mind spending a little more on the game actually. What bums me out is that the N7 digital deluxe edition details in origin doesn't say anything about the DLC. So I pre ordered the normal version. Now I've to spend more in total than what the deluxe edition would have cost... without the other bonuses.

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Yuoaman wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.


I go t the CE of ME2 as well, but the SE players never got the collector armor or any of the other CE items  that time around.  You get what you pay for.


But every player received Zaeed and a number of other free DLC - EA had decided that this business model doesn't work, for some reason, and is charging everyone who isn't a "true fan" to pay $10 for a lot of fairly important background information that many fans would want to have in their games.


If that is the case and I think it is a big if then it is a good thing that everyone can get it.  However my guess on what is going to happen, the charecter will be in the game no matter what, all you will get by having the DLC is a mission with minimal story impact and the ability to have a new squadmate.    There is no logic to having a charecter that would add that much to the story only avaliable to a minority.  The 
Prothean  will be in game, just as a NPC with out the DLC, I could be wrong, but I don't think so in this case. 

#3746
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rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...



Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


-_- so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.


No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.


No. i bought the CE for exclusive in-game content. More Guns/Armor/Clothes/RObo dogs. I don't care what you think a CE "should" be. I bought the ME2 CE for the same reason: exclusive in-game content. That's my only incentive for spending 20$ extra.

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You know I'm surprised none of these youtube links have been Rick Rolls


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Daywalker315 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...


Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.


I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?


-_- so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.


No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.


What about post-release DLC? You think it should all be free too despite the large cost involved with creating it? I mean, if I buy LotSB and you don't, doesn't that mean we're no longer playing the same game anymore?


Nope, but anything made before release & obviously cut out to make more money should be in the final game release & not forced to be charged more.


JJ

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bennyjammin79 wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Hey that guy over there has the same car as me but it has a 6 CD changer in it?

That is bull crap I don't care if he did pay more for his car then I paid for mine, I want a 6 CD changer for free GM, you greedy jerks give me my CD player. I hte you GM I'll never buy one of your cars again


Now, now. That kind of logic has no business hanging around here.


My mistake, I'll just head back down the dusty trail.

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Don't think of this as Day One DLC. Think of this as Collector's Edition exclusive content that's available for you to buy on day one if you got the standard edition.

Plenty of games put bonus content, including substantial pieces of content like extra levels or dungeons, in collector's editions. In that respect, From Ashes is no different.

What sets From Ashes apart is that it's available to buy day and date with its release in the collector's edition. Most other games either never release collector's edition exclusive content for people who bought the standard edition, or release it months later.

Didn't buy the collector's edition? Too bad. You should be happy that Bioware is letting you get the content at all, and on day one no less.