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[Kroepoek]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

You know I'm surprised none of these youtube links have been Rick Rolls

Hey now. Don't be lazy and put some effort into linking a link for people to click on. Like this;

[Yuoaman]

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.

I go t the CE of ME2 as well, but the SE players never got the collector armor or any of the other CE items  that time around.  You get what you pay for.

But every player received Zaeed and a number of other free DLC - EA had decided that this business model doesn't work, for some reason, and is charging everyone who isn't a "true fan" to pay $10 for a lot of fairly important background information that many fans would want to have in their games.

If that is the case and I think it is a big if then it is a good thing that everyone can get it.  However my guess on what is going to happen, the charecter will be in the game no matter what, all you will get by having the DLC is a mission with minimal story impact and the ability to have a new squadmate.    There is no logic to having a charecter that would add that much to the story only avaliable to a minority.  The 
Prothean  will be in game, just as a NPC with out the DLC, I could be wrong, but I don't think so in this case.

Javik will not be in the game unless you have the DLC, sorry.

[Daywalker315]

prsquared wrote...

I don't mind spending a little more on the game actually. What bums me out is that the N7 digital deluxe edition details in origin doesn't say anything about the DLC. So I pre ordered the normal version. Now I've to spend more in total than what the deluxe edition would have cost... without the other bonuses.

N7 DDE includes the DLC. It's been discussed around here but it's gotten swept aside by the pages and pages of hate.

[Exia001]

fl0wers wrote...

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.

No, I agree with you, its 10 bucks or five pounds and people are threating not to buy the game as if they're starting a revolution, its not the same. But if they wanna miss out because of 'Principals' let them, we'll be enjoying the game and at the end of the day, only I will be in my room playing the game, and in the nicest possible way in couldnt give a toss what anyone else does

[Arsenal0602]

Frigid Leaf wrote...

Don't think of this as Day One DLC. Think of this as Collector's Edition exclusive content that's available for you to buy on day one if you got the standard edition.

Plenty of games put bonus content, including substantial pieces of content like extra levels or dungeons, in collector's editions. In that respect, From Ashes is no different.

What sets From Ashes apart is that it's available to buy day and date with its release in the collector's edition. Most other games either never release collector's edition exclusive content for people who bought the standard edition, or release it months later.

Didn't buy the collector's edition? Too bad. You should be happy that Bioware is letting you get the content at all, and on day one no less.

I agree 100%, however logic is not allowed here.  This is the land of the poop throwing rage monkeys 

[ArkkAngel007]

fl0wers wrote...

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.

If they gave the CE edition something else, it would be ready by release too, therefore people would continue to complain that they didn't get another freebie.

This was a perk for us who bought the CE.  Whether you feel that it's right or not doesn't matter.  It was what the marketing team came up with, and that's the hand we were dealt with.

But all in all, yes, this is blown way out of proportion.

[Kroepoek]

Frigid Leaf wrote...

Don't think of this as Day One DLC. Think of this as Collector's Edition exclusive content that's available for you to buy on day one if you got the standard edition.

Plenty of games put bonus content, including substantial pieces of content like extra levels or dungeons, in collector's editions. In that respect, From Ashes is no different.

What sets From Ashes apart is that it's available to buy day and date with its release in the collector's edition. Most other games either never release collector's edition exclusive content for people who bought the standard edition, or release it months later.

Didn't buy the collector's edition? Too bad. You should be happy that Bioware is letting you get the content at all, and on day one no less.

Funny how CE's are getting justified nowadays for extra content that should be available with the main game. CE's are for the extra goodies you get along with it.  Physical items and what not.

[Rovay]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Descedent wrote...

TK Dude wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yep its over the Joker memes have come out... time to sit back and watch this fall into complete madness.

Can I join?

*snip*

Any spare chairs left? I can bring popcorn if you want to.

[rob593]

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.

No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.

No. i bought the CE for exclusive in-game content. More Guns/Armor/Clothes/RObo dogs. I don't care what you think a CE "should" be. I bought the ME2 CE for the same reason: exclusive in-game content. That's my only incentive for spending 20$ extra.

And THAT my friend is the problem.

Modifié par rob593, 23 février 2012 - 05:01 .

[Rockworm503]

I think some people are missing the point.
Its not wether or not this DLC was cut from the game to make more money.
It looks shady.
No I can't prove that it was cut from the game but by god anything that is released ALONGSIDE the game just screams cut from game to me.
You can rationalize it all you want but it just looks bad on our end. Its all about timing here folks. LotSB was great and it felt like added content that enhanced the game in a huge way.
But it came out months after ME2 did. I didn't for one second think they kept that out on purpose to make a quick buck.
This however does. Like I said it doesn't matter weather its cut or not. Its all about timing.

[MustOnen]

Even though I am getting the N7 edition (and this DLC for free), I have to say, from ashes should be a part of the main game, as a surprise, like Legion, everyone would have shat themselves from excitement.

Now all the potential is ruined by MS and EA.
*Post DLC mission*
"Sup, just an extinct race, chilling on your sofa."
*space*
"I like walls."

Sigh.

I have honestly despised the idea of DLC ever since 360 came out, but by now,
the marketing by EA is starting to look like something created by a huge corporation you see in a dystopian scifi film.

We have to stand up as consumers and say enough is enough, the only devs who truly care about their fans anymore seem to be CD Projekt and Valve.

God I hope me3 is good overall though. I've loved this series so much.

[appleroof76]

After the disappointment of DA2 I wanted to give a chance to see BioWare's Mass Effect series that is stunning, but I think they screwed up with this crap permanently. You guys will never see more than 1 euro from my pockets, as EA will not see. Then complain about piracy.

[fropas]

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.

No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.

No. i bought the CE for exclusive in-game content. More Guns/Armor/Clothes/RObo dogs. I don't care what you think a CE "should" be. I bought the ME2 CE for the same reason: exclusive in-game content. That's my only incentive for spending 20$ extra.

And THAT my friend is the problem.

Your problem not mine.

[Arsenal0602]

Yuoaman wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

I didn't ever truly believe it would be CE exclusive but I knew that the CE would present the best deal to get it as well as other exclusive content like the weapons and appearance pack. I also always expected that SE owners would have to buy it if it was listed as a bonus to CE owners. Anyone with common sense should have seen that coming.

I go t the CE of ME2 as well, but the SE players never got the collector armor or any of the other CE items  that time around.  You get what you pay for.

But every player received Zaeed and a number of other free DLC - EA had decided that this business model doesn't work, for some reason, and is charging everyone who isn't a "true fan" to pay $10 for a lot of fairly important background information that many fans would want to have in their games.

If that is the case and I think it is a big if then it is a good thing that everyone can get it.  However my guess on what is going to happen, the charecter will be in the game no matter what, all you will get by having the DLC is a mission with minimal story impact and the ability to have a new squadmate.    There is no logic to having a charecter that would add that much to the story only avaliable to a minority.  The 
Prothean  will be in game, just as a NPC with out the DLC, I could be wrong, but I don't think so in this case.

Javik will not be in the game unless you have the DLC, sorry.

Proof of that is where exactly?  An assumption or fact?

[JJDrakken]

Fix1o0 wrote...

Frigid Leaf wrote...

Don't think of this as Day One DLC. Think of this as Collector's Edition exclusive content that's available for you to buy on day one if you got the standard edition.

Plenty of games put bonus content, including substantial pieces of content like extra levels or dungeons, in collector's editions. In that respect, From Ashes is no different.

What sets From Ashes apart is that it's available to buy day and date with its release in the collector's edition. Most other games either never release collector's edition exclusive content for people who bought the standard edition, or release it months later.

Didn't buy the collector's edition? Too bad. You should be happy that Bioware is letting you get the content at all, and on day one no less.

Funny how CE's are getting justified nowadays for extra content that should be available with the main game. CE's are for the extra goodies you get along with it.  Physical items and what not.

There is logic right there, like I've said, it's like drugs.  They got their fix & don't care about anyone else, so long they can continue to get thier fix.


JJ

[AkiKishi]

fl0wers wrote...

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.

Some people just have principles what can you do. This disatisfaction has been growing for sometime. Now Bioware is right in the path of the well you know what.

[rob593]

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.

No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.

No. i bought the CE for exclusive in-game content. More Guns/Armor/Clothes/RObo dogs. I don't care what you think a CE "should" be. I bought the ME2 CE for the same reason: exclusive in-game content. That's my only incentive for spending 20$ extra.

And THAT my friend is the problem.

Your problem not mine.

The communities problem, even if you cannot see that yet

[kp-]

fl0wers wrote...

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.

I agree with you 100%! These people with this attitude need to grow the fu*k up. Its sad that there so such imature people in this crowd.  Buy the game, dont buy the game. We dont care what you do its your $$. Pirate a game over a $10 DLC that you could have gotten if you got off your ass and pre-ordered the game..... No ones fault but their own.

Maybe some of these people are USE to getting things for free from our Govt, so they are trying to justify getting game content for free. Hmm... maybe. Its the attitude I see from lots of people who likes Obama and seem to think he has done nothing wrong during his administration.

[MA5Bergey]

At the end of the day, what EA is doing is selling you a brand new car, and telling you that you'll need to pay an extra $2000 for brakes.

[AkiKishi]

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

fropas wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...Other people should have to pay for it.

I get what your saying, but don't you feel this is needlesly selfish in the grand scheme of things, kinda like a "it's my ball so im taking it and going home" kind of situation.

Couldn't you ultimately just suck it up for the sake of the community? Surely you see that this thread and way of thinking only damages this community, and as a loyal fan isn't that contrary to your interests?

so it's good for the community to get DLC only some people paid for? it sounds like you're the one being selfish.

No, you misunderstand, The community should be playing the same game as each other, regardless of the money they spent,those who CHOOSE to buy the CE should receive out of game tangible products to collect that justify the additional support they show.

No. i bought the CE for exclusive in-game content. More Guns/Armor/Clothes/RObo dogs. I don't care what you think a CE "should" be. I bought the ME2 CE for the same reason: exclusive in-game content. That's my only incentive for spending 20$ extra.

And THAT my friend is the problem.

Your bought game advantage not a collectors edition.

[OdanUrr]

You should have acted (before). The BSN foretold of its release. The announcement was merely delayed, to the time after Mass Effect 3 had gone gold. But no one wanted to believe, believe he could exist. And when the truth finally dawns, it dawns in ashes!

[ArkkAngel007]

Fix1o0 wrote...

Frigid Leaf wrote...

Don't think of this as Day One DLC. Think of this as Collector's Edition exclusive content that's available for you to buy on day one if you got the standard edition.

Plenty of games put bonus content, including substantial pieces of content like extra levels or dungeons, in collector's editions. In that respect, From Ashes is no different.

What sets From Ashes apart is that it's available to buy day and date with its release in the collector's edition. Most other games either never release collector's edition exclusive content for people who bought the standard edition, or release it months later.

Didn't buy the collector's edition? Too bad. You should be happy that Bioware is letting you get the content at all, and on day one no less.

Funny how CE's are getting justified nowadays for extra content that should be available with the main game. CE's are for the extra goodies you get along with it.  Physical items and what not.

Why should it be included???  It's extra content.  It provides nothing for the main narrative of the game, just like Kasumi's Memories.  And yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about before you get on your high horse.

CE have included extra DLC in the past.  Personally, I prefer bonus missions and gear compared to pointless statues.  And that's my opinion, just like it's your opinion that it should just be memorabilia.

[Haventh]

Michael Gamble wrote...
We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike


 

Thanks for notifying us about it.  I'm actually really excited for this, cause ever since ME I have wanted to see a live Protean or pciture, or dead one (besides statues, and collectors aren't actually prothean anymore).

[nelly21]

Fix1o0 wrote...

Funny how CE's are getting justified nowadays for extra content that should be available with the main game. CE's are for the extra goodies you get along with it.  Physical items and what not.

Because you say so? Collector's Editions mean additional content. That's it. It's up to the people offering the CE to decide what that additional content is.

[mjharper]

kp- wrote...

fl0wers wrote...

It really bothers me that people are getting so upset over a simple optional DLC to the point of boycotting. It bothers me even more that people will use this as justification for pirating. Sure, maybe they should have given CE owners something else and released the DLC for free since it is ready for release, but is it really that big a deal? Pirating won't help anyone. Boycotting might, but if you think boycotting a game over simple $10 DLC is worth not playing the final game of an incredible trilogy, you're nuts.

I'm sure I'll be buried quickly, but keep up the good work, BioWare. I'm extremely excited for Mass Effect 3.

I agree with you 100%! These people with this attitude need to grow the fu*k up. Its sad that there so such imature people in this crowd.  Buy the game, dont buy the game. We dont care what you do its your $$. Pirate a game over a $10 DLC that you could have gotten if you got off your ass and pre-ordered the game..... No ones fault but their own.

Maybe some of these people are USE to getting things for free from our Govt, so they are trying to justify getting game content for free. Hmm... maybe. Its the attitude I see from lots of people who likes Obama and seem to think he has done nothing wrong during his administration.

Well done. You managed to bring even more completely irrelevant issues into the discussion.