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[rainasa]

mogonk wrote...

rainasa wrote...

the only thing from the DLC from the demo is the VO from the prothean regarding the planet in it, its likely that they had the script of the dlc done by this time and strated to work on voicing it (which is always one of the first things they do in development) but due to time constraintes only really started with the coding and actual development of the dlc after it got certification

So they WERE using devlopment time on creating content they had no intention of releasing as part of the game.

Is that what you're saying?

thats not what im saying at all. From Ashes was always planned to be DLC, and it was developed by the DLC team.

What i am saying is that certian parts of the DLC such as the script and some voice work (the very most basic parts of the game, and are always completed many months before coding) was complete by the time the beta build that was made into the demo was done.

When they say "We didnt work on this untill after certification", what they mean is that the actual coding and development wasnt done untill then, they didnt work on his character model, his mission, or making the planet Eden prime untill after the game was certified

[kingofkamikaze]

man, i really need this game.. now!
i preordere a colletors edition, extended with a liara stateu

[Descedent]

Foxtrot_212 wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

Somewhere, North America, 11:48AM
Bioware Motors, Canada

Dealer:  Good afternoon, sir!  Welcome to Bioware Motors.  

Patron1:  Yeah, thanks.  Whatchagot?

Dealer:  Our latest model, sir - the ME3 Turbo SE.  Just delivered from the factory a week ago.

Patron1:  Oh, yeah?  What's it got?  Looks sporty.

Dealer:     For only 60, you get all the standard equipment, plus AC,  a 3-CD player, faux leather interior,  computer-controlled braking system, an onboard GPS and a computer-assisted gasoline monitor that helps you save money.  It can use all three gasoline types with equal efficiency.  It comes with bucket seats,  and can be equipped as a standard or automatic, and is backed by our warranty assuring future upgrades, for a small fee.

Patron1:  That's pretty sweet.  Not bad.  I do believe I'll take it.

Dealer:  Thank you, sir, I...

Patron2:  Hey there, Patron1!  I see you're just about to buy the ME3 Turbo SE.

Patron1:  Yup.  It's pretty nice.  Sporty.  I bought the 2007 model and the 2009 one.  I like this series.

Patron2:  I agree,  I did too,  that's why I went for the Me3 HyperLX this time.  It's got everything yours has, except it has real leather heated seats, 12 CD -Changer in the upholstered trunk, full surround sound and full ABS.  It can also use diesel and cooking grease to power it, with the option to upgrade to full hydrocell in the future!  It also has a skid control built in and full power steering.  It also comes in Hyperblack, which only the LX has.  A bit steep, over 90 to get it, but I think it was worth it.  Had it all installed today, too.  Sweet, huh?

Patron1:  WTF!?  Hey, dealer, you piece of crap - how come he gets extras? Huh? You lying scum - what the hell are you trying to pull?!?

Dealer:  I don't understand the problem, sir?

Patron1:  Look, technically they're the same car, aren't they?  Same chassis, same engine, same wheels?

Dealer:  With minor differences, technically, yes.

Patron1:  That's what I thought!  But he gets all the extras?

Dealer:  Well, it is the luxury edition, sir.  However, for 10 more we can include...

Patron1:  Oh, no, you don't, you damned con artist!  If these two cars were technically identical when they were designed, then I want all those extras for free!  I bought the last two cars in this series!  I'm entitled!

Dealer:  Uh... sorry...?

Patron2:  How do you figure that you're entitled to a luxury edition when you were ready to buy the standard?  That makes no sense.  It never included the extras because it's the standard edition.

Patron1: Look, ******!  They're the same car!  At some point, a designer made the decision that all those extras could be installed onto the same body and the only real difference is the name!  I deserve those extras because I bought the same car! The same, the same, the same! Just because they're pandering to you rich basturds doesn't mean I shouldn't have it too! FFS!  And you should kiss my a ss and offer me something just for me for the privilege of me buying one of your cars in the first place!  And kiss my a ss!

Dealer:  Uh... you bought the standard edition.  We can install those extras are only 10 more...

Patron1:  I don't care if they're five or one or a hundred more!  I deserve them free because I bought the same car he did technically! Free because I bought two cars here before!  That proves I deserve it!  I say I do so I do!  

Patron2:  I don't think so.  Listen to yourself.

Patron1:  Aha! You just screwing me then? Rip off!  Gyp!  Thievery!  Injustice!  Unfettered greedy capitalism! It so figures!  That all you do to the beaten down guy who can barely afford a big screen tv and two consoles and a computer!  And you said it was afternoon, when technically it's not noon yet!  Conspiracy!  Lies everywhere!  I'm cancelling my car payment and going to the Bethesda Auto because even if their cars tend to stall they're nicer than you... and another thing... boobs in Witcher motors - superior!.....

Dealer:  Wow.  

Patron2:  Lack of thorazine in his diet, from the looks of it...

The Best way to put it.... 

THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYABLE CONTENT AND VISUAL CONTENT FFS, your story is totally inaccurate

[weremutt]

JamesShepard777 wrote...

To the CE Owners Defending This Bull****: You do realize that CE was limited, right? As such, it's basically impossible for everyone who wanted a CE to get it. You get the DLC with your game because you were LUCKY or QUICK not because you were SMART. Saying others who didn't pre-order the CE don't deserve Javik isn't taking into that most of them could have or would have bought the CE if supplies weren't limited.

Even then, specifically setting aside story content, regardless of how large or small the impact might be, in order to give it to what you know is a select few is bad business to start with. Making it available to all doesn't solve the problem either, as it should've never been considered DLC in the first place.

To say it is Bull**** or I was lucky or quick is wrong, I preordered and paid off the CE  back in July because I am a responsible consumer. If there is something coming out and I know I am going to buy it or I want it I go an get it. I knew I was going to want the CE because there were a ton of things that I can get with it that are not even annoucced yet. You are paying for the same thing that I am. If you get this for free because it was stated months ago that there was to be a bonus character/mission/weapons/armor for the CE and not the SE I want my money back or other DLC for free. This was one of the sole reasons I purchased the CE. No I am not going to cancel my preorder and I am not going to **** about people having the option to get CE material for an additonal price that I had to pay. If I had gotten stuck with the SE I would be happy then a pig in **** and mud that I had the option to get this even if it was game day DLC that I had to pay $10 for just like the CE buyers because up until 72 hours ago I would not have had that option. The funny thing is I usually do not like DLC at all but the other thing is that it is optional. No one says that you have to buy it and if you want the story behind the prothean and want to be cheap go read the wiki. Again you are paying for the same thing I paid for in the Collectors Edition, I also am just getting more with the my paid off purchase. The game is not even out yet and I am confident it was an extra $20 well spent.

[TheStoner]

AdrynBliss wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

Exia001 wrote...
My issue with this is the fuss made of 10 dollars,

The horrifying exploitative logic of it all wouldn't be different if it was ONE dollar, or a hundred dollars.  The amount of money is not the issue here.

that is complete BS and I think deep down you know it. If day 1 DLC WAS 1 dollar we all know damn well no one would make so much as a peep about it, which really shows how strong peoples convictions are on the issue.

I'm pretty sure TB would and it's him that started this all.

[GuyIncognito21]

AdrynBliss wrote...
that is complete BS and I think deep down you know it. If day 1 DLC WAS 1 dollar we all know damn well no one would make so much as a peep about it, which really shows how strong peoples convictions are on the issue.

You just made up a fact and said it "really shows" something.  I'm telling you right now I didn't even know what the price of the cut content DLC was before I came on here to voice my displeasure.

The only difference the price makes is in assessing how many boycotters they can tolerate before this scheme doesn't make any sense even from a money-grubbing perspective.

Modifié par GuyIncognito21, 23 février 2012 - 06:16 .

[AlanC9]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

So I notice the announcement said that the DLC was for a prothean squadmate

Would this by chance be implying that the Prothean will be in the game without the DLC, but simply not as a joinable character?

This actually strikes me as being very likely. It neatly gets around the problem the prothean not being important -- assuming you thought that was a problem in the first place.

[H1natachan]

I'm sure if Bioware/EA stuck a polished pile of dog poop in the game most of you will blindly buy it.
People are rightly saying enough is enough with all this day 1 dlc garbage. People are sick and tired of being constantly milked. People will only only take so much before enough is enough. The dont like it dont buy it arguement dont cut it with me. The line has been reached, it must never ever e crossed.
On another note, i'm not sure what's worse Bioware defenders or Blizzard defenders.

[rob593]

Kasen13 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

lrrose wrote...

There are voice files for Prothy in the demo for the Sur'Kesh mission. Other squaddies have simliar voice files. The previous demo leak contained scripts of his scenes, but nothing about his recruitment or personal mission (assuming he has one). I honestly don't see why people refuse to take Bioware at their word on this. The last four DLC companions have all been interesting (except for Sebastian) and integrated well into the main game without making the game feel incomplete without them.

Well, the thing is, Casey Hudson said that working on the DLC didn't detract from working on the game proper, because they weren't working on the DLC until the game was finished.

And other Bioware employees have said that the Prothean was never "cut" from the game.

But if the Prothean was never intended to be in the full game....and they weren't working on the DLC at the same time as the full game....why are his voice files in the demo?

That doesn't seem possible.

I think part of the problem is understanding what "finished" means to a developer. As I understand it, and I'm not in the industry so I could be wrong, they finished the storyboard; you know, who goes where, does what and when. The basic outline of the story... then while the rest of the team went forward with that, the writers said to themselves, "Hey, I've got this great idea... how can we implement this guy into what we've already made?"

Again, just my admittedly oversimplified assumption...

They should have been saying "hey, how can we make what we have made better"

And I would consider the addition of this character to be making it better...

That's a really tough thing to say considering you haven't played the game yet.

Don't twist my words. I never suggested that I had played the game or that the character would be good (I assume he will be), only that from a developmental standpoint, adding a character can do exactly what you said, make it better. Or worse. We'll have to play the game and see, but I'm an optimistic person, I think it'll make the game better.

I didn't twist your words, I didn't change anything about what you said or misinterpret it in any way. you posted something speculative I pointed out the flaw with your speculation.

Not how COULD we make this better, but how CAN we make this better. I have never seen a product released in this industry that is 100 percent excellent, there is always room for improvement and improvement should always come before addition, up to the point (release) where improvements can only be made via addition.

Modifié par rob593, 23 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[Rockworm503]

I'm done.
This is not worth it.
My measly amount of money I get for free spending isn't worth this.
Its a shame that they never made Mass Effect 3.
I would've loved to see how it ended but nothing is worth this hassle.
I have to draw the line somewhere.
Its just going to have to be something else that doesn't make feel dirty.

[Naughty Bear]

It's just a bonus character. I don't know what his/her interaction would be but i'm expecting he/she will be like Kasumi or Zaeed where you have to click on objects for them to talk and thats it.

[fropas]

Descedent wrote...

Foxtrot_212 wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

Somewhere, North America, 11:48AM
Bioware Motors, Canada

Dealer:  Good afternoon, sir!  Welcome to Bioware Motors.  

Patron1:  Yeah, thanks.  Whatchagot?

Dealer:  Our latest model, sir - the ME3 Turbo SE.  Just delivered from the factory a week ago.

Patron1:  Oh, yeah?  What's it got?  Looks sporty.

Dealer:     For only 60, you get all the standard equipment, plus AC,  a 3-CD player, faux leather interior,  computer-controlled braking system, an onboard GPS and a computer-assisted gasoline monitor that helps you save money.  It can use all three gasoline types with equal efficiency.  It comes with bucket seats,  and can be equipped as a standard or automatic, and is backed by our warranty assuring future upgrades, for a small fee.

Patron1:  That's pretty sweet.  Not bad.  I do believe I'll take it.

Dealer:  Thank you, sir, I...

Patron2:  Hey there, Patron1!  I see you're just about to buy the ME3 Turbo SE.

Patron1:  Yup.  It's pretty nice.  Sporty.  I bought the 2007 model and the 2009 one.  I like this series.

Patron2:  I agree,  I did too,  that's why I went for the Me3 HyperLX this time.  It's got everything yours has, except it has real leather heated seats, 12 CD -Changer in the upholstered trunk, full surround sound and full ABS.  It can also use diesel and cooking grease to power it, with the option to upgrade to full hydrocell in the future!  It also has a skid control built in and full power steering.  It also comes in Hyperblack, which only the LX has.  A bit steep, over 90 to get it, but I think it was worth it.  Had it all installed today, too.  Sweet, huh?

Patron1:  WTF!?  Hey, dealer, you piece of crap - how come he gets extras? Huh? You lying scum - what the hell are you trying to pull?!?

Dealer:  I don't understand the problem, sir?

Patron1:  Look, technically they're the same car, aren't they?  Same chassis, same engine, same wheels?

Dealer:  With minor differences, technically, yes.

Patron1:  That's what I thought!  But he gets all the extras?

Dealer:  Well, it is the luxury edition, sir.  However, for 10 more we can include...

Patron1:  Oh, no, you don't, you damned con artist!  If these two cars were technically identical when they were designed, then I want all those extras for free!  I bought the last two cars in this series!  I'm entitled!

Dealer:  Uh... sorry...?

Patron2:  How do you figure that you're entitled to a luxury edition when you were ready to buy the standard?  That makes no sense.  It never included the extras because it's the standard edition.

Patron1: Look, ******!  They're the same car!  At some point, a designer made the decision that all those extras could be installed onto the same body and the only real difference is the name!  I deserve those extras because I bought the same car! The same, the same, the same! Just because they're pandering to you rich basturds doesn't mean I shouldn't have it too! FFS!  And you should kiss my a ss and offer me something just for me for the privilege of me buying one of your cars in the first place!  And kiss my a ss!

Dealer:  Uh... you bought the standard edition.  We can install those extras are only 10 more...

Patron1:  I don't care if they're five or one or a hundred more!  I deserve them free because I bought the same car he did technically! Free because I bought two cars here before!  That proves I deserve it!  I say I do so I do!  

Patron2:  I don't think so.  Listen to yourself.

Patron1:  Aha! You just screwing me then? Rip off!  Gyp!  Thievery!  Injustice!  Unfettered greedy capitalism! It so figures!  That all you do to the beaten down guy who can barely afford a big screen tv and two consoles and a computer!  And you said it was afternoon, when technically it's not noon yet!  Conspiracy!  Lies everywhere!  I'm cancelling my car payment and going to the Bethesda Auto because even if their cars tend to stall they're nicer than you... and another thing... boobs in Witcher motors - superior!.....

Dealer:  Wow.  

Patron2:  Lack of thorazine in his diet, from the looks of it...

The Best way to put it.... 

THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYABLE CONTENT AND VISUAL CONTENT FFS, your story is totally inaccurate

 
So what? you should have access to all my exclusive playable content? You should get the extra weapons and features I bought? even though you haven't spent any extra money?

[MostlyAutumn]

H1natachan wrote...

I'm sure if Bioware/EA stuck a polished pile of dog poop in the game most of you will blindly buy it.
People are rightly saying enough is enough with all this day 1 dlc garbage. People are sick and tired of being constantly milked. People will only only take so much before enough is enough. The dont like it dont buy it arguement dont cut it with me. The line has been reached, it must never ever e crossed.
On another note, i'm not sure what's worse Bioware defenders or Blizzard defenders.

Yes, charging $100 for 200 hours of fun is atrocious.

[mogonk]

Guys, nobody has answered my question. I'm assuming you folks know something I don't. Would you mind taking a minute to fill me in?

The demo is a pre-final build of the game. Casey Hudson said that they didn't work on the DLC until after the game was finished and sent to MS. How can there be DLC files in the demo?

I just don't understand. Is he lying, or not?

[wrdnshprd]

jgordon11 wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

Dr Griner wrote...

What a bunch of greedy ****s. I cant believe how you can ****** all over your fans and then think a BS post makes it all good.

You have extra content available for the game for an EXTRA cost and the games not even released yet.

You make me sick...

This is what's wrong with the game industry.  Why release a great, full featured game when you can just release a skeleton of a game and charge customers $10 a pop for DLC to gradually put flesh on the bones.

This is content produced prior to the release of the game, sold at release....that isn't available to people who paid full retail price for the game.  It's absolutely outrageous.

I'm actually less disappointed with Bioware than I am with the idiots who make it possible for companies to behave this way.

One squad mate and one mission makes the MASSIVE two-disc game crammed with content a skeleton of a game? You can't possibly logically defend that position.

myself and others have said it a billion times, but somehow it gets overlooked.

whats the difference between this DLC and that of shale and zaeed, where the DLC was FREE for those that bought the game new  - REGARDLESS OF VERSION. 

oh right, NOTHING.

so justify to us how this dlc should be any different?

'this was advertised 9 months ago..'

link me an article from back then where bioware CONFIRMED the dlc character was a prothean..

still waiting..

thats why people are upset.. all bioware has to do is make this new game DLC (i.e. free if you buy the game new REGARDLESS OF VERSION), and this whole mess goes away.

Yeah you're right they should just make it free.  Its not like they paid voice actors and a seperate team to develop this DLC.  This DLC cost them money and yes it was in hopes of selling it for a profit because that is what buisnesses do.  It was completed after the game so wasn't just cut content, but rather a side project from the game to add onto the existing complete single player.

You know what Bioware should've done?  Not make the DLC at all and not dedicate the resources to putting a project together aimed at dedicated fans.  That way they wouldn't have had to keep putting resources to the project after the original game was completed and mostly deal with people who justify their unwillingness to spend $10 on a product wih morality simply because they feel they are entitled to something that they shouldn't be.

shale and zaeed were day 1 DLC that was free REGARDLESS OF VERSION, as long as you bought the game new.  how is this day 1 DLC any different?

if this dlc was released like lair of the shadowbroker (important to ME2 lore IMO), nobody would be complaining.  that DLC was released well after ME2 was in circulation.  its like  a bite size expansion pack.. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.  its a $10 expansion pack. 

however, when you release something like that ON RELEASE DAY.  i dont care if it was developed by a separate team, its still content cut out from the main game.  there is no reason why they couldnt have released the content in the same manner as the zaeed and shale day 1 DLC..

however, bioware/EA decided to go the greedy route and only reward those that bought the CE.  and they can get away with it because people such as yourself will let them..

[Rycr]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

Rycr wrote...

You know, we know very little about what is going to happen in Mass Effect 3. For all we know, a Prothean survivor could show up in the main game too, just not as a squadmate. Wouldn't that make all of the "integral part of the story" arguments completely invalid?

Yep, but that would give rise to "why did EA/Bioware bother trying to leverage everyone over the DLC if it wasn't really important."

I'm not sure that's much better for their reputation. 

That doesn't make any sense at all.  They're not trying to "leverage everyone" or force them to get it or something.  I mean, if it weren't for that accidental leak, we wouldn't even know about it yet!  They haven't said that this is the only way to find out more about the Protheans or anything like that.  All that we know is that it has a living Prothean as a squadmate.

[chance52]

Just an observation but I seem to see these two points made over and over.

1)This is EXTRA content, unless any of you can show me PROOF it is cut content then STFU.

2)It's been in the leaked script for almost a year now and there is an 8 month old forum thread about the Protean squad mate to back up that timeline and there are voice files in the demo for the Protean. The same demo that some of you DLC defenders claimed last week was an early build and that's why there were glitches in it.

Go around and around and around but at the end of the day BioWare will anger their fans for more cash in the short term and not care that they lost loyal customers in the long run. But that's OK there are other video game companies out there that don't give themselves permission to scan my computer, who sell me a game once, not 12 times over the course of a year and whom I'd rather support with my purchases.

And before anyone claims I'm just against this day 1 DLC because I have to pay more for the same thing that CE and DD customers get for free, I did pay more. I bought the DD version of the game because of the art book, I thought it was worth the extra $20 (until they came out with the larger art book sold separately but that's another topic altogether). Paying more doesn't mean I think it's OK to fleece customers for every multiplayer gun, ever retextured armor, or anything else cut from the original product.

Modifié par chance52, 23 février 2012 - 06:19 .

[Niemack Saarinen]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'm done.
This is not worth it.
My measly amount of money I get for free spending isn't worth this.
Its a shame that they never made Mass Effect 3.
I would've loved to see how it ended but nothing is worth this hassle.
I have to draw the line somewhere.
Its just going to have to be something else that doesn't make feel dirty.

TL:DR

I'm glad your spending it on something else.    <3

[fropas]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'm done.
This is not worth it.
My measly amount of money I get for free spending isn't worth this.
Its a shame that they never made Mass Effect 3.
I would've loved to see how it ended but nothing is worth this hassle.
I have to draw the line somewhere.
Its just going to have to be something else that doesn't make feel dirty.

I hope BW keeps this in mind in the future, because then I get free content even though I only paid for the standard edition. Yes. . .I'd like that in the future. 

[ArkkAngel007]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
  The entitlement comes from the fact that this was CE content made available to rest. 

It also comes from the fact that apologists argue that we should all be grateful that EA and Bioware are trying to charge $70 for a complete game, in essence arguing that these companies are "entitled" to an extra $10 just because they're so awesome.

And again, it's not a part of the retail game in any way.  They developed it for the CE owners and the SE owners, both who have to pay to play it because from the beginning it was DLC.

What you get in the retail game is the complete experience.  The DLC is an addition.

[StableZaner]

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par StableZaner, 23 février 2012 - 06:20 .

[_symphony]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

So I notice the announcement said that the DLC was for a prothean squadmate

Would this by chance be implying that the Prothean will be in the game without the DLC, but simply not as a joinable character?

That's a good question, if he is in the game, then my anger is baseless.

To reiterate, I don't care about the DLC or the CE, my problem is that they aparently added a prothean alive, and because is a DLC, he's irrelevant to the main plot.

Think about it, a prothean irrelevant in the fight against the reapers, is just .... what.

[Kasen]

rob593 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...

rob593 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

lrrose wrote...

There are voice files for Prothy in the demo for the Sur'Kesh mission. Other squaddies have simliar voice files. The previous demo leak contained scripts of his scenes, but nothing about his recruitment or personal mission (assuming he has one). I honestly don't see why people refuse to take Bioware at their word on this. The last four DLC companions have all been interesting (except for Sebastian) and integrated well into the main game without making the game feel incomplete without them.

Well, the thing is, Casey Hudson said that working on the DLC didn't detract from working on the game proper, because they weren't working on the DLC until the game was finished.

And other Bioware employees have said that the Prothean was never "cut" from the game.

But if the Prothean was never intended to be in the full game....and they weren't working on the DLC at the same time as the full game....why are his voice files in the demo?

That doesn't seem possible.

I think part of the problem is understanding what "finished" means to a developer. As I understand it, and I'm not in the industry so I could be wrong, they finished the storyboard; you know, who goes where, does what and when. The basic outline of the story... then while the rest of the team went forward with that, the writers said to themselves, "Hey, I've got this great idea... how can we implement this guy into what we've already made?"

Again, just my admittedly oversimplified assumption...

They should have been saying "hey, how can we make what we have made better"

And I would consider the addition of this character to be making it better...

That's a really tough thing to say considering you haven't played the game yet.

Don't twist my words. I never suggested that I had played the game or that the character would be good (I assume he will be), only that from a developmental standpoint, adding a character can do exactly what you said, make it better. Or worse. We'll have to play the game and see, but I'm an optimistic person, I think it'll make the game better.

I didn't twist your words, I didn't change anything about what you said or misinterpret it in any way. you posted something speculative I pointed out the flaw with your speculation.

Not how COULD we make this better, but how CAN we make this better. I have never seen a product released in this industry that is 100 percent excellent, there is always room for improvement and improvement should always come before addition.

You can take it out of context and twist it all you like, but the fact remains that I made it quite clear I was speaking from a developmental standpoint. From their perspective (and mine), adding this character does make it better, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

I never said it wasn't speculative... I'm sure they thought DA2 would be loved by all. Speculation is often wrong, I myself am often wrong. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong about this character being good.

Editted to add: Then again, "good" is an opinion.

Modifié par Kasen13, 23 février 2012 - 06:21 .

[nitefyre410]

mogonk wrote...

Guys, nobody has answered my question. I'm assuming you folks know something I don't. Would you mind taking a minute to fill me in?

The demo is a pre-final build of the game. Casey Hudson said that they didn't work on the DLC until after the game was finished and sent to MS. How can there be DLC files in the demo?

I just don't understand. Is he lying, or not?

  

Some people buy the story ...

I don't but some do... its up to you decide  what side you on because truth be told we are never going to know that absolute truth behind it.

[rob593]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'm done.
This is not worth it.
My measly amount of money I get for free spending isn't worth this.
Its a shame that they never made Mass Effect 3.
I would've loved to see how it ended but nothing is worth this hassle.
I have to draw the line somewhere.
Its just going to have to be something else that doesn't make feel dirty.

TL:DR

I'm glad your spending it on something else.    <3

A true beacon of the community, I'm sure Bioware appreciates you.