Omega Torsk wrote...
Never thought I would keep revisiting a thread in the hopes of seeing "LOCKDOWN" at the very bottom of it...Goth Skunk wrote...
The ONLY way that BioWare has abused their customers and their fans, is in allowing this thread to continue.
It should have been quashed dozens of pages ago.
Draconis6666 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
I don't think those files exist on the disk because the cosmetic items are not that large in file size.
Whether you like the argument or not, that's not really an issue.
In some ways its entirely the issue, your argument is it that it is up to YOU to tell bioware when their game is complete and when it isnt. You are basicaly saying that you should decide what content is finished or not, "How dare they not finish something but leave some files from it my Game is incomplete" <-- this is opinion and not any grounds for a logical argument that you can use to suport a claim that Bioware should be entitled in any way to give you what you want. You are basicaly saying that you want them to waste time and resources to go through and rearchive files that contain cut content because you feel that its very existance makes your game incomplete.
As I mentioned earlier by your argument you could just as easily say that no game ever produced is completed because stuff was cut and it should be in the game simply because you think it should have been completed instead of cut.
Or you are alternately demanding that they spend their development time to remove things that are imbeded into the game beacuse you dont want them there becaue the existance of files that you will never even see anything from in the game somehow lessens your gameplay experience.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 23 février 2012 - 09:03 .
BobSmith101 wrote...
Draconis6666 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
I don't think those files exist on the disk because the cosmetic items are not that large in file size.
Whether you like the argument or not, that's not really an issue.
In some ways its entirely the issue, your argument is it that it is up to YOU to tell bioware when their game is complete and when it isnt. You are basicaly saying that you should decide what content is finished or not, "How dare they not finish something but leave some files from it my Game is incomplete" <-- this is opinion and not any grounds for a logical argument that you can use to suport a claim that Bioware should be entitled in any way to give you what you want. You are basicaly saying that you want them to waste time and resources to go through and rearchive files that contain cut content because you feel that its very existance makes your game incomplete.
As I mentioned earlier by your argument you could just as easily say that no game ever produced is completed because stuff was cut and it should be in the game simply because you think it should have been completed instead of cut.
Or you are alternately demanding that they spend their development time to remove things that are imbeded into the game beacuse you dont want them there becaue the existance of files that you will never even see anything from in the game somehow lessens your gameplay experience.
They are free to leave incomplete files as long as they indicate it ON THE PACKAGING.
If the Game Box says Prothean DLC £10 extra that's fine. What is not fine is sneaking in extra costs just because they removed something that should have been there.
BobSmith101 wrote...
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mogonk wrote...
So, to recap. They developed a character and associated content as part of the development process. Then they removed him from the game. Then they charged $10 to add him back into the game.
And that's cool? Ok buddy.
Bluumberry wrote...
Yuoaman wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
MageCeridan wrote...
ME2 had 3 versions:
SE,
CE,
DDE.
I should know, I have the DDE from steam on my disk...
But they all had Zaeed/CN if you bought them new?
Yep, every new copy regardless of version or platform had Zaeed and the Cerberus Network included.
And the multiplayer still takes the role Zaeed/CN had in ME2.
Survivalist wrote...
They are going to make plenty of money from the game even without the day one DLC. They could make the DLC free and still be making money. This does not sit well with me, they are trying to get our money when they clearly don't need it.
If the price of the DLC more accurately reflected it's actual value it would be better but like spare parts it's completely disproportionate to the actual production cost.
Modifié par Descedent, 23 février 2012 - 09:06 .
It is constructive criticism, the fact that is too late now is different.fropas wrote...
_symphony wrote...
How can you be so sure about that?WizenSlinky0 wrote...
So again, the protheans are entirely irrelevent and unimportant to ME3.I'm being honest, I don't care about Day 1 DLC as much as having a prothean alive that's inconsequential to the main plot. Unless he's in the game and the DLC is only for make him a squadmate this is poor writing. A prothean alive is a huge deal, they were thought dead for 50000 years, they were killed by the reapers and now you have one alive, and it means nothing ... how can that be? how can you resurrect a prothean and cast him aside in a DLC?The fact it's a prothean is just being used to attack Day 1 DLC. I just want people to be honest with their argument so I can take it seriously. So we more or less agree on most points
BioWare is only using him as a hook for get people to buy DLCs and CEs, and wasting a great opportunity for Mass Effect's story.
This is an unconstructive criticism. It's too late for BW to change his importance to the main plot.
You really think thats the actual definition of insanity don't you? Also neurons travel about as fast as the brian that contains them. Maybe you were thinking of electrons or neutrinos?JakeMacDon wrote...
@Descendant and TheStoner:
You hear that massive roar of a sound? Feel your hair almost peeled from your scalp? That's the effect of the point of what I'd posted - re: "the definition of insanity" - hyperblasting its way over your heads at the speed of the neurons you are apparently starving.
Thanks for playing though.
Draconis6666 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
CE - complete game
SE - complete game if you pay £10 more.
So then you would be ok with it if the base game cost $70 and everyone got it for free?
Draconis6666 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
CE - complete game
SE - complete game if you pay £10 more.
So then you would be ok with it if the base game cost $70 and everyone got it for free?
Taleroth wrote...
What's cool should be on your value evaluation. Is the game worth $60 without it? Is the game worth $70 (or $80 if you're eyeing a CE) with?
Lufven1 wrote...
We still don't know of the significance of this new character but him being a prothean is surely something else than Zaeed. You MUST understand that. I would argue that a new character IS going to change the experience of the players using it but as it now stands only people willing to pay another 20$ or whatever will experience it. I truly love the ME series and have been looking forward to ME3 it since ME2 but am I a lesser fan because I don't want to pay extra to recieve a greater experience?
Modifié par rainasa, 23 février 2012 - 09:16 .
Yes, but they did have the Collectors weapon and armor as well as the incisor Rifle.BobSmith101 wrote...
MageCeridan wrote...
ME2 had 3 versions:
SE,
CE,
DDE.
I should know, I have the DDE from steam on my disk...
But they all had Zaeed/CN if you bought them new?
So why should they sell the one less people are going to buy?nightcobra8928 wrote...
if a story driven gamer had the choice between a story related DLC with a prothean and a multiplayer mode everybody even bioware knows the result most gamers of that preference would choose.
Modifié par MissOuJ, 23 février 2012 - 09:11 .
Descedent wrote...
has everyone seen this? pretty soon this will be close in views till how many day1 me3 sales across all 3 platforms.
shame couldn't be more
_symphony wrote...
It is constructive criticism, the fact that is too late now is different.fropas wrote...
_symphony wrote...
How can you be so sure about that?WizenSlinky0 wrote...
So again, the protheans are entirely irrelevent and unimportant to ME3.I'm being honest, I don't care about Day 1 DLC as much as having a prothean alive that's inconsequential to the main plot. Unless he's in the game and the DLC is only for make him a squadmate this is poor writing. A prothean alive is a huge deal, they were thought dead for 50000 years, they were killed by the reapers and now you have one alive, and it means nothing ... how can that be? how can you resurrect a prothean and cast him aside in a DLC?The fact it's a prothean is just being used to attack Day 1 DLC. I just want people to be honest with their argument so I can take it seriously. So we more or less agree on most points
BioWare is only using him as a hook for get people to buy DLCs and CEs, and wasting a great opportunity for Mass Effect's story.
This is an unconstructive criticism. It's too late for BW to change his importance to the main plot.
CommanderCoffee wrote...
_symphony wrote...
BioWare is only using him as a hook for get people to buy DLCs and CEs, and wasting a great opportunity for Mass Effect's story.
Welcome to Business 101. First lesson: How to get people to become repeat customers.
nightcobra8928 wrote...
Bluumberry wrote...
Yuoaman wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
MageCeridan wrote...
ME2 had 3 versions:
SE,
CE,
DDE.
I should know, I have the DDE from steam on my disk...
But they all had Zaeed/CN if you bought them new?
Yep, every new copy regardless of version or platform had Zaeed and the Cerberus Network included.
And the multiplayer still takes the role Zaeed/CN had in ME2.
except the multiplayer is not a day 1 DLC story content, it is part of the main game and highly advertised as such.
besides, if a story driven gamer had the choice between a story related DLC with a prothean and a multiplayer mode everybody even bioware knows the result most gamers of that preference would choose.
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