13369 réponses à ce sujet

[Draconis6666]

Lufven1 wrote...

This just shows that DLC is a disease that must be purged. Vote with your wallets!

Yes by all means exercise your right as a consumer, however if you get what you want and DLC ceases to exist do not then complain about increased prices for games in general.

[LiquidLogic2020]

I got Zaeed for free in ME2, now you want £10 to unravel one of the biggest mystery's in ME3? Yeah not all of us ride the short bus.

[N7Infernox]

TheStoner wrote...

XD One of the only things not marked as exclusive is this DLC.

LOL

[Errationatus]

TheStoner wrote...

Neurons are cells. Cells don't move relative to the body.

 

Obviously I'm not talking about cells or their movement.

 
The signals sent by neurons consist of electrons and I wasn't being obtuse insanity is in simple terms abnormal behaviour.

 

Define "abnormal" behaviour.  Without a standard, there is no definitive definition of "normal" possible.  Thus "abnormal" is wholly subjective.  

 
your definition is way too specific.

Since it was meant as a definition of this thread and meant entirely in jest - which you apparently completely missed - I'll take "specific" as a compliment, dim as it may be.

[ForceXev]

A lot of people are debating whether or not the Prothean character is an important part of the story or not, whether the content can be called "optional" or not. But that is totally irrelevant. You're right, the Prothean IS technically optional. Probably more than 90% of the game can be called "optional." You could take out all of the romance scenes, and then put out a DLC called the "Romance Pack" and it would be exactly the same thing. Romance is optional. Personally, I wouldn't care because that stuff is not very important to me. But if they took it out and then sold it as a separate add-on, a lot of people would be livid.

This is no different. People who care a lot about the story, the lore and background of the ME universe feel that a Prothean character is just as important as the romance scenes are to people who are into the space soap opera stuff. You can't tell another person what is or is not important to them. Who are you to make that distinction for others? If you think the Prothean isn't important, good for you -- you don't need to buy it. But think about something that is important to you, whether it be romance arcs, the reunion with Ash/Kaiden, maybe even a favorite class you are looking forward to playing -- any of these things could be called "optional." You can play through the whole game without them, and you would still get all of the Reaper story. Would you still say it's OK to take out something and sell it separately if it is meaningful to you?

[Bluumberry]

CorkonianCowboy wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC “ME3:From Ashes” on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday). 

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things... 

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike


 

I lie to people for a living and it's good.

The official reveal for the DLC is tomorrow. He's not lying about that sentence.

[fropas]

TheStoner wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Chozo_Hybrid wrote...

Why all the hate for this? It's just because its day one right? If it was witheld a few months and released would this be an issue?

I thought it was a reward for me forking out an extra $50 (in my country games are over priced in general) to get all the extra stuff. Now they give the option to those without buying the CE, the chance to experience everything anyway. I would have thought this a good thing?

It was never a collectors edition exclusive. The problem is that they made it before release and are releasing it as seperate paid dlc.

Oh?

XD One of the only things not marked as exclusive is this DLC.

So it's not exclusive, but it's still content some people are paying for you should have to pay for it as well.

[Nohvarr]

obie191970 wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Chozo_Hybrid wrote...

Why all the hate for this? It's just because its day one right? If it was witheld a few months and released would this be an issue?

I thought it was a reward for me forking out an extra $50 (in my country games are over priced in general) to get all the extra stuff. Now they give the option to those without buying the CE, the chance to experience everything anyway. I would have thought this a good thing?

It was never a collectors edition exclusive. The problem is that they made it before release and are releasing it as seperate paid dlc.

No, it wasn't exclusive, they said all along that SE buyers would be able to buy it as Day 1 DLC.

.....then the complaints make even less sense.They announced they were making DLC with optional character and mission before they talked about the details, and told people they'd be able to get it either via CE or extra cash with their SE. So people were warned, had the chance to weght the pros and cons into their decision of which version to purchase.

[Omega Torsk]

I think it's safe to say the presence of this thread is now considered a form of harassment. Please, Bioware... for all our sakes... lock it down.

[Draconis6666]

CorkonianCowboy wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC “ME3:From Ashes” on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday). 

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things... 

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike


 

I lie to people for a living and it's good.

You also apparently have a poor understanding of the fact that Days (emphasis on the s) =/= less than 24hrs later

[RiouHotaru]

Bluumberry wrote...

The Enforcer OS wrote...

I don't agree with the entitlement mentality that wants this DLC for free, but I do disagree with developer methodology.  I understand it costs more money.  Allow me to pay more for a Hard copy and I'm good.  
The challenge is that DLC is unregulated and too easy for developers to exploit.  20 years ago games didn't have patches, DLC, etc.  Games had to be finished out the door.  DLC has allowed too much leniency and opportunity to exploit consumers.   It's not all their fault, part of if is the consumer for allowing it to continue to happen.  Also the Console / Publishers are a bit at fault too because a flat $60 price point is not sustainable across all gases.  ME3 may be worth $80, charge me $80 and give me all the content (preferrably in hard copy)  which is why the CE exists I suppose.

Exploit consumers? What, by not cutting content completely and developing extras?

This is all voluntary stuff as well. NO ONE is forcing anyone to buy the extras when the core game is just fine on its own.

But the game is ready and finished and out the door.  Everything made after the fact is bonus content.

[Lord Jaric]

Nohvarr wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Chozo_Hybrid wrote...

Why all the hate for this? It's just because its day one right? If it was witheld a few months and released would this be an issue?

I thought it was a reward for me forking out an extra $50 (in my country games are over priced in general) to get all the extra stuff. Now they give the option to those without buying the CE, the chance to experience everything anyway. I would have thought this a good thing?

It was never a collectors edition exclusive. The problem is that they made it before release and are releasing it as seperate paid dlc.

Oh?

That doesn't say exclusive character and mission. It says additional downloadable mission and character. Huge difference.

[Draythe]

AlanC9 wrote...

ElementL09 wrote...

Any reason why it can't be free dlc for all new copies of the game?

No reason it can't be.

No reason it should be, either.

I agree. Protheans aren't a vital part of Mass Effect's story anyway. Who could POSSIBLY be interested in a playable one? Why would that be part of the game in the first place? I'm so glad they decided to wait until after development to shove that in for $10 extra. I'm sure the idea hadn't come to them until after they were finished making the game. No sir.

[Bon3zz1001]

Does this come with the Digital Deluxe Edition from Amazon? It doesn't say anything about it on the page.

[AkiKishi]

Nohvarr wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Chozo_Hybrid wrote...

Why all the hate for this? It's just because its day one right? If it was witheld a few months and released would this be an issue?

I thought it was a reward for me forking out an extra $50 (in my country games are over priced in general) to get all the extra stuff. Now they give the option to those without buying the CE, the chance to experience everything anyway. I would have thought this a good thing?

It was never a collectors edition exclusive. The problem is that they made it before release and are releasing it as seperate paid dlc.

Oh?

Additional is not the same as exclusive . Everything that is exclusve is pre-fixed with the word. In other words they were planning this when they printed the box there.

[AlanC9]

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

I got Zaeed for free in ME2, now you want £10 to unravel one of the biggest mystery's in ME3? Yeah not all of us ride the short bus.

I keep having to ask this. What mystery? 

[whitey4444]

I didn't realise it was three months between June (when this character news was originally leaked) and February. That's why I'm cynical about this.

[Draythe]

Omega Torsk wrote...

I think it's safe to say the presence of this thread is now considered a form of harassment. Please, Bioware... for all our sakes... lock it down.

I agree. North Korea is best Korea.

[Atakuma]

fropas wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

TheStoner wrote...

Chozo_Hybrid wrote...

Why all the hate for this? It's just because its day one right? If it was witheld a few months and released would this be an issue?

I thought it was a reward for me forking out an extra $50 (in my country games are over priced in general) to get all the extra stuff. Now they give the option to those without buying the CE, the chance to experience everything anyway. I would have thought this a good thing?

It was never a collectors edition exclusive. The problem is that they made it before release and are releasing it as seperate paid dlc.

Oh?

XD One of the only things not marked as exclusive is this DLC.

So it's not exclusive, but it's still content some people are paying for you should have to pay for it as well.

It could be easily said that you are only paying for the "exclusive" stuff, I mean lithographs aren't cheap.

Modifié par Atakuma, 23 février 2012 - 09:52 .

[Solgineer]

Omega Torsk wrote...

I think it's safe to say the presence of this thread is now considered a form of harassment. Please, Bioware... for all our sakes... lock it down.

It would then flood over into the forum via form of threads.

[AlanC9]

Draythe wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ElementL09 wrote...

Any reason why it can't be free dlc for all new copies of the game?

No reason it can't be.

No reason it should be, either.

I agree. Protheans aren't a vital part of Mass Effect's story anyway. Who could POSSIBLY be interested in a playable one? Why would that be part of the game in the first place? I'm so glad they decided to wait until after development to shove that in for $10 extra. I'm sure the idea hadn't come to them until after they were finished making the game. No sir.

Right. They should only make DLCs that nobody wants.

[fropas]

Omega Torsk wrote...

I think it's safe to say the presence of this thread is now considered a form of harassment. Please, Bioware... for all our sakes... lock it down.

Only 7 more pages to 200 though

[rainasa]

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

I got Zaeed for free in ME2, now you want £10 to unravel one of the biggest mystery's in ME3? Yeah not all of us ride the short bus.

the ceberus network was free to new copies to increase the ammount of sales that went to bioware but for ME3 multiplayer takes that role, so they added the squadmember into the CE and as Day one DLC, it is not rocket science

[Draconis6666]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Does this come with the Digital Deluxe Edition from Amazon? It doesn't say anything about it on the page.

Yes the DDE includes From Ashes

[Bluumberry]

rainasa wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

I got Zaeed for free in ME2, now you want £10 to unravel one of the biggest mystery's in ME3? Yeah not all of us ride the short bus.

the ceberus network was free to new copies to increase the ammount of sales that went to bioware but for ME3 multiplayer takes that role, so they added the squadmember into the CE and as Day one DLC, it is not rocket science

Should start a counter for how many times this needs to be said