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[Genshie]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

[avmf8]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
And Bioware can't say anything specific about the Prothean.

I'm sorry, what?  Whose policy is that?  If Bioware isn't even calling the shots in its own studios, that raises an entirely new set of concerns.  Believe it or not, my perception of EA is immeasurably worse than my perception of BW.

EA is everything soulless and wrong, and the only reason I even consider buying ME is on the assumption that BW have largely been allowed discretion.

I had a bad feeling from the start when /ea bought Bioware. I just knew the evil entity of EA would sooner or later corrupt them. Which in a way is ironic since in a way EA games is sort of like the reapoers if you think about it.

You know waiting till a game company has something to offer EA games takes all they are worth leaving them a dry husk sound familliar? Oh and anyone arounds EA gams BS starts to spew that very BS just like that station with the people who put that peice of a reaper in there asteroid station?

EA games is like the reaprs except reapers kill civilisations EA games just kills game developers. Or maybee another thing more fitting to compare EA games to is the Borg. You know those guys from startrek that assimilate anny species they come in contact with.

It even has the people already assimilated talking all robotic. I am almost expecting one to say "resistance is futile".

Oh wait a minute I saw a post where someone pretty much said that.

As to anyone telling me this 0 day DLC is not an issue do not waste your time I will not be swayed.

[Heimdall]

_symphony wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
]The DLC is the middleground, there is no reason the DLC must be irrelevant.  There is also no reason he must be part of the main plot whatsoever save for the whims of a number of fans.  He's a single straggler that had no part in even the Ilos plan.  Some fans just put far too much weight in him being a Prothean.

DLCs are irrelevant, otherwise they would be in the main game. I think that a prothean alive is a pretty big deal, just because what he is, a breathing prothean, and should be in the main game, not in a DLC. You don't think the same, I get it, can we agree to disagree?

A living breathing Prothean is a novelty, nothing more, that's why he's DLC.  He is not important to the plot and I see no reason why he must be.

[kollektor]

I've lurked here for two years and never said anything . My two cents is that I do kind of feel that bioware is trying to **** there lore just a little bit but mass effect fans who bought the collectors ed. really dont have to worry about it. On a side note I'm paying a 100 bucks for the collectors editon from gamestop with next day shipping so I'm already paying an arm and a leg here.

[RiouHotaru]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
 Why would they spoil their own DLC?  I don't want the surprise of the mission or the character's personality spoiled for me.  So why would I want them to tell me?

Well, they already DID spoil their own DLC in an attempt to drum up sales, so that kinda goes by the wayside.

Really?  Because most of us already suspected the DLC squadmate was a Prothean.  All the leak did was confirm it for people who somehow missed out on all the rumors.  Honestly, for most of us, nothing has changed with this reveal.

[PSUHammer]

foo man chew wrote...
So what they say is absolute because you say so.Do you walk around life so blindly or is it only when your a fan of a certain video game.So with your logic every company is 100 percent honest all the time even though they are trying to sell you a product.

Why would a company that produces entertainment media and relies on fans good will to buy said media, lie to those very fans?  Wouldn't that totally go against everything they were trying to do?  What would they have to gain from doing that?  Do they have a history of said practice?  Can you prove they are lying?  Are they guilty until proven innocent, in your eyes?

Your opinions are based on speculation and conspiracy theories with very little facts or basis in reality.

Modifié par Hammer6767, 24 février 2012 - 02:52 .

[RiouHotaru]

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

The loyal fans are also equally divided as well.

[heart again]

Biooooware y u no giv limted ed ****ent to standerd ed ppl 4 freeeeeee!!!!!??????

[foo man chew]

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...
So what they say is absolute because you say so.Do you walk around life so blindly or is it only when your a fan of a certain video game.So with your logic every company is 100 percent honest all the time even though they are trying to sell you a product.

Why would a company that produces entertainment media and relies on fans good will to buy said media, lie to those very fans?  Wouldn't that totally go against everything they were trying to do?

Your opinions are based on speculation and conspiracy theories with very little facts or basis in reality.

Just like your sheep like blindeness

[slimgrin]

I know this: I won't buy a single DLC that has anything to do with story as I can be all but certain - given Bioware's rep with story DLC - it'll be a gimped experience on the order of an hour or so and with an asking price of $10-$15. Screw the Protheans, give me multi-player maps. Sprawling, glorious maps, intelligently designed will offer ten times the value an episodic piece of second rate writing with a cliff hanger ending.

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 février 2012 - 02:54 .

[GuyIncognito21]

RiouHotaru wrote...
Except that acquiring the goods without paying for them is technically illegal, but that's a whole 'nother can of rooms.

Well the legality/illegality divide doesn't have any relevance to BW's bottom line, so it's not important.  Whether a person cancels their order and goes without or cancels their order and gets the game for free, it's still a $60 loss for BW.
 
My only point is that conventional "either buy it and play it or don't buy it and don't play it" analysis doesn't apply here because consumers are no longer limited to those two choices.

And you're right, the leverage the company uses is the goodwill they engender.  And guess what?  Bioware has YET to do any reasonable damage to my opinion of their goodwill.  Sure I was annoyed that the MP early access for non-BF3 players too over a week overdue to come out.  Sure, I was annoyed about the fact I have to use Origin.  But these are nitpicks honestly. 

Right, but your tolerance for this kind of business model is higher than that of a lot of others.  They haven't damaged their reputation with you, but it's clear that you don't speak for everyone. 

And surely any damage they do in the next two weeks will be more than offset by the amount of revenue this DLC generates.  That's well and good.  But life is long, and this is not the last time Bioware is going to try and capitalize on their reputation.

A few more decisions like this one and there may not be a reputation left to leverage.

But you're trying to state your view like it's factual truth.  When it's not.

It is factual truth in the sense that I'm not lying about myself, and, because I'm a consumer, I'm not lying when I say that my money hangs in the balance here for BW. 

[PSUHammer]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

The loyal fans are also equally divided as well.

I am a long time fan that wouldn't be afraid to legitimately call them out on somthing that was BS, but I find this whole day 1 DLC moanfest just that.

[HOUSE MDD]

Why do these threads always turn from an announcement into a verbal war about extorsion and taking everyone to court etc etc.

[NoxJuked]

ME1 & ME2 - free DLC when game is bought + multiple side missions & new Loyalty mission - both are well above 30+ hours of gameplay the average game today is 4-6 hours for AAA titles, some with unbalanced multiplayer when it's a huge part of the game - ME3 No free DLC cause it's honestly last game they can really bank on but instead we get free multiplayer which is damn good

 ME1 & ME2  best games of all time - What is Bioware going to do with the collectors editions that were promised with the DLC if they made it free now all you would have done is made the CE people mad

 People think a prothean is a key part of the story, they are not sure the backround is there for all 3 games but he isn't going to offer some way to beat the reapers if he had that info they wouldn't have died out or tried to hide 50,000 years ago. we don't even know he's 50,000 years old

Also to add another quick thing people are glad it's optional because RP wise in their sheps story all protheans are dead and they want it that way

MP was added so friends who enjoy the ME universe can play together, they made a femshep trailer and have some of the best marketing I have seen for a game and CGI trailers. Game is made for multiple platforms, created some of the best DLC in gaming ever
The very last thing is people don't know jack **** about what goes on behind the scenes

the game finished in Jan
 they have to get it cerified and everything because it takes that long
 to get it certified by PS3 N 360
 so in the meantime they work on DLC, if they get it done so it can be pushed out on day 1 that's great because you can add the character to ur playthrough first time around
so because they are hard working people are mad

 Why would you push the game out farther? They have deadlines to meet they have to make money
 so they can't plan ahead and work hard on something while they wait to be cerified, that's how people keep their jobs

[GnusmasTHX]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...
Most folks pay money for the product when they want it

Only if they value it more than the price for which they can have it.  If Bioware said "fine, we're going to charge $1,500 for a complete game if you guys complain about $70." I daresay you wouldn't pay for it even though you still wanted it.

Thanks, Holmes.

[OdanUrr]

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

He, like anybody else, has a right to his opinion. If he doesn't want to buy the game because of the "From Ashes" DLC, then that is his choice. Furthermore, I don't think he should be held accountable for every single comment made in response to his video. That's all I have to say on this matter.

[PSUHammer]

foo man chew wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...
So what they say is absolute because you say so.Do you walk around life so blindly or is it only when your a fan of a certain video game.So with your logic every company is 100 percent honest all the time even though they are trying to sell you a product.

Why would a company that produces entertainment media and relies on fans good will to buy said media, lie to those very fans?  Wouldn't that totally go against everything they were trying to do?

Your opinions are based on speculation and conspiracy theories with very little facts or basis in reality.

Just like your sheep like blindeness

What?  I don't understand who you are directing that to.  Are you answering a question of mine or just making accusations based on the same speculation as before?

[XIzCarnageXIXZ]

FUBAR

[OdanUrr]

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

FUBAR

Nice.

[GnusmasTHX]

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...
So what they say is absolute because you say so.Do you walk around life so blindly or is it only when your a fan of a certain video game.So with your logic every company is 100 percent honest all the time even though they are trying to sell you a product.

Why would a company that produces entertainment media and relies on fans good will to buy said media, lie to those very fans?  Wouldn't that totally go against everything they were trying to do?

Your opinions are based on speculation and conspiracy theories with very little facts or basis in reality.

Just like your sheep like blindeness

What?  I don't understand who you are directing that to.  Are you answering a question of mine or just making accusations based on the same speculation as before?

He's insinuating that all sheep are born without the gift of sight.

[ArkkAngel007]

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

foo man chew wrote...
So what they say is absolute because you say so.Do you walk around life so blindly or is it only when your a fan of a certain video game.So with your logic every company is 100 percent honest all the time even though they are trying to sell you a product.

Why would a company that produces entertainment media and relies on fans good will to buy said media, lie to those very fans?  Wouldn't that totally go against everything they were trying to do?

Your opinions are based on speculation and conspiracy theories with very little facts or basis in reality.

Just like your sheep like blindeness

What?  I don't understand who you are directing that to.  Are you answering a question of mine or just making accusations based on the same speculation as before?

Neither.  He doesn't have anything better to do than throw insults since he can't hold his own in a discussion apparently.

Seriously, we need to drop the sheep, hater, drone, troll, etc. crap.  You have an opinion, give it.  But keep it relevent and don't be insulting people who never did a thing to you.

[rainasa]

Hammer6767 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

The loyal fans are also equally divided as well.

I am a long time fan that wouldn't be afraid to legitimately call them out on somthing that was BS, but I find this whole day 1 DLC moanfest just that.

Im in the middle, I think how they handled the fact the squadmate is a prothean and how they choose to offically  announce the DLC this damn late was terrible. (anyone who paid attention would have bet the CE squadmember was going to be javick.)

but at the same time even though i disagree with some of their choices I think they have every right to do what they have done, including charging money for the dlc.

Modifié par rainasa, 24 février 2012 - 03:00 .

[foo man chew]

Hammer6767 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

The loyal fans are also equally divided as well.

I am a long time fan that wouldn't be afraid to legitimately call them out on somthing that was BS, but I find this whole day 1 DLC moanfest just that.

And as youve stated your opinion should be everybody elses too.Or its whining or a moanfest or people just must feel entitled.Your opion is right and everyone else who dissagrees is wrong.

[TheoCN]

Is there someone who actually believed that guy?
When i finished the ME2, shep was on cerberus, and not in jail in the alliance..
OH yeah, i lost one DLC that means nothing in the story, according to some.
and now a Prothean being said as "non important", and thats why he is JUST a DLC?really??
Come on. really?

[GnusmasTHX]

foo man chew wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Genshie wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

235 pages. I hope this backfires on sales as well and they rethink the decision on something like that for future releases.

It won't. The only people that this has bugged are the loyal fans. This will not affect the sales of casuals or anyone who doesn't diliberatly search for information on ME3. That is why I think TB's boycott is both pointless and dumb. You shouldn't be boycotting a game you should be boycotting the method and market by not buying the dlc itself. Also it doesn't help that alot of responses from his video were people saying they were going to pirate the game. He is only fueling the fire nothing else.

The loyal fans are also equally divided as well.

I am a long time fan that wouldn't be afraid to legitimately call them out on somthing that was BS, but I find this whole day 1 DLC moanfest just that.

And as youve stated your opinion should be everybody elses too.Or its whining or a moanfest or people just must feel entitled.Your opion is right and everyone else who dissagrees is wrong.

I also hate English.