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[PSUHammer]

wrdnshprd wrote...

im saying that the SE players should be getting the exact same experience as the CE players are, since that is what bioware is advertising.  they did supposedly by the full version of the game right? 

the $20 you spend for extra stuff should NEVER be actual in game content.  cosmetic items, vanity pets, digital artwork, social items, etc  are all fair game.. actual missions and characters are not.

They absolutely did NOT advertise anything of that nature.  They have been clear as to what the CE edition was including (minus the nature of the character) from early on.

As for your second point, that is completly subjective and not indicative of any business reality for most developers out there today.

[LiquidLogic2020]

Mclouvins wrote...

rainasa wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

The main thing that irks me is that we are now expected to pay £10 for something that was once a free incentive for buying the game brand new. The fact that it's a prothean just makes it seem that much worse as they have always been a big part of ME lore, im hoping that they will play a part in ME3 regardless of dlc but even if that is the case it's still low to take something that's so integral to the lore of ME and sell it separately on the day the game comes out.

can someone else take this one please? writing my response to this statement would now be physically painful for me.

Sure I got it.

A. This was never intended to be part of the main game. They said nearly a year ago that the collector's edition would have an additional character and mission and let it slip that it was actually a Prothean. If they hadn't done that he would most likely either have been released at a later date for the same price or not developed at all. Most importantly though there was never any question of his being in the basic game, it was never going to happen.

B. Sure being a Prothean is cool but that doesn't make him a major driving force in the narrative. It is not like the key to beating the reapers is getting him to a cloning facility to make a Prothean army or something like that. He merely provides combat support like any other squadmate and provides insight into the Prothean mindset/civilization, just like Grunt did for Krogans in ME2, but when he dies the Protheans will go back to being a dead species all over again.

I never said it was planned for the main game, I can't prove that either way so I won't touch apon it. I also did not say he would be a "major driving force in the narative" I simply stated that protheans are a big deal in the mass effect lore. My main point was that we are now paying £10 for the eqivilant of Zaeed, who was a nice bonus for buying brand new, can you not see how having £10 dlc packs availble before you even put the disk in the tray angers some people? 

[Yuoaman]

NoxJuked wrote...

I'm tired of this "I have a right to voice my opinion" okay was that something you all found out yesterday or something, and the rest of us don't know about it? We just don't want people hating for the wrong reasons when the game isn't even out yet or the DLC or hating the developers who put in hard work to complete both the main game and DLC ready for launch with blind reason.

You say porthean is important, why? What is he possibly going to offer to beat the reapers other than a gun, he's only going to provide backround information most likely about the prothean race which is something I feel will be for the fans who are into lore.

Why make the DLC free? They need to make money, they worked on it after the main game was complete. So just because they planned DLC ahead of time and completed it, it should be free right. CE people knew there was going to be an extra mission-squad mate that's why I bought it ahead of time. So if you make it free for everyone then you just ****** off the CE people.

Multiplayer is the free sort of thing this time around, and it's really damn amazing if you have not played it yet.

Why include the Codex? Why include reference to anything that doesn't directly impact what Shepard is doing?

Because some of us care about the lore and don't think we should NOT have to pay more to get it.

Modifié par Yuoaman, 24 février 2012 - 04:07 .

[Heimdall]

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

If they could give the dlc for free in the collectors edition then they could have given the dlc for free to all who buy the game new as Shale / Zaeed.

Ergo cut content for the average user with the intention to sell it as DLC.

It isn't cut content

it might just as well be.

How so?

Do I have to spell it out? It's the same kind of dlc they have released for free before, and they had time to insert the code into the collectors edition. Ergo they had the chance to reward the average user as before but instead saddled us with 10 dollar dlc.

Only a fool believes the official story.

No, you are asking them to treat you to a free companion and drawing comparisons to a very differant situation that has no relevance.  They released those things as free incentives to get new copies sold not as a reward for the average user.  For ME3, mulitplayer fills that role.  Now this DLC that was not cut from the main game and developed seperately is being sold as it's own entity and included as part of the CE extras.

And nothing was cut out purely to be resold later

Now you're just being stupid and reitterating me.

My point was always that the way this DLC was created does not matter. 

They would have been met with the same outrage if Shale was 10 bucks extra for the average user buying new upon release.

Except it wasn't because everyone knew Shale was only removed from the game due to time constraints.  How DLC is made matters, especially to half the people on this thread wrongly complaining that their SE copy is an incomplete game.

My point, is that this is not the same kind of DLC as Shale.  Shale was not intended to be apart from the main game when it was developed.  The Prothean was planned during the main game and developed afterwards.  If anything Shale would have been met with more outrage due to originally being part of the main game.

I'm not reiterating you.  I'm telling you that they never rewarded the average user out of the goodness of their hearts with free DLC, and with the multiplayer that role is filled already.  Did the point go over your head?

[Mclouvins]

Yuoaman wrote...

Mclouvins wrote...

rainasa wrote...

I'd rather they would have just sat on their asses for about a month and then released it, then their wouldnt be nearly as many issues with it as there are now.

Which just demonstates the madness of it all. This isn't even a new issue, the Prothean character page is 7 months old.

Except the pre-release material for the CE never said that the Prothean character was exclusive, I always assumed every player would get the chance to play it.

And I actually pre-ordered the CE, so it's not because I want free stuff.

I don't think anyone ever said it was supposed to be exclusive. What rainasa was saying I believe is that they should have waited for SE release for like a month and then people would just be glad they had the option. I for one initially pre-ordered the SE knowing full well that I wouldn't get said character but figured I would have a chance to pay for him later. Eventaully I decided I wanted the other stuff so I got the DDE but my point was that I never had reason to believe that I was going to get the Prothean just for purchasing the basic game.

[ArkkAngel007]

BillsVengenace wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

daqs wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

I read it when it was posted originally. I still don't think whether it was made pre- or post-certification makes much of a difference.

Neither do I. For some people, though, apparently that's a make-or-break thing.

Nobody cares about certification, it's about refuting the erroneous claim that the Prothean is ripped content from the main game.

I've never claimed that the Prothean was ripped from the game, just that he was always planned and depriving him of gamers who don't pay additional money isn't right.

That doesn't make any sense.  Why should the artists, writers, animators, etc., who worked on his piece do so for free?  If you wanted to argue that the content wasn't worth $10, then I would be right there with you (once I played it to see).  I didn't think Kasumi was worth it, either.  But, to demand content be free is ridiculous.

They don't work for free.  They get paid irregardless of whether the DLC sells 1,000,000 copies or 0 copies. 

Nowhere near the same amount though.  The majority of their earnings, you know, the ones they hope come in so they can pay off long-standing bills and payments, are the quarterly post-release checks.  Game design doesn't pay that well through just the development process.

[PSUHammer]

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Mclouvins wrote...

rainasa wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

The main thing that irks me is that we are now expected to pay £10 for something that was once a free incentive for buying the game brand new. The fact that it's a prothean just makes it seem that much worse as they have always been a big part of ME lore, im hoping that they will play a part in ME3 regardless of dlc but even if that is the case it's still low to take something that's so integral to the lore of ME and sell it separately on the day the game comes out.

can someone else take this one please? writing my response to this statement would now be physically painful for me.

Sure I got it.

A. This was never intended to be part of the main game. They said nearly a year ago that the collector's edition would have an additional character and mission and let it slip that it was actually a Prothean. If they hadn't done that he would most likely either have been released at a later date for the same price or not developed at all. Most importantly though there was never any question of his being in the basic game, it was never going to happen.

B. Sure being a Prothean is cool but that doesn't make him a major driving force in the narrative. It is not like the key to beating the reapers is getting him to a cloning facility to make a Prothean army or something like that. He merely provides combat support like any other squadmate and provides insight into the Prothean mindset/civilization, just like Grunt did for Krogans in ME2, but when he dies the Protheans will go back to being a dead species all over again.

I never said it was planned for the main game, I can't prove that either way so I won't touch apon it. I also did not say he would be a "major driving force in the narative" I simply stated that protheans are a big deal in the mass effect lore. My main point was that we are now paying £10 for the eqivilant of Zaeed, who was a nice bonus for buying brand new, can you not see how having £10 dlc packs availble before you even put the disk in the tray angers some people? 

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy it.  It isn't part of the main game.  It is completely optional.  So, no, I don't understand why people get angry over it.  It is irrational.

[rainasa]

Yuoaman wrote...


Except the pre-release material for the CE never said that the Prothean character was exclusive, I always assumed every player would get the chance to play it.

And I actually pre-ordered the CE, so it's not because I want free stuff.

but then the developers could have just posted a DEAL WITH IT .jpeg and be done with it, instead of hopelessly trying to apease both sides (and this is coming from someone who had her CE preorder cancelled)

[Heimdall]

Yuoaman wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

I'm tired of this "I have a right to voice my opinion" okay was that something you all found out yesterday or something, and the rest of us don't know about it? We just don't want people hating for the wrong reasons when the game isn't even out yet or the DLC or hating the developers who put in hard work to complete both the main game and DLC ready for launch with blind reason.

You say porthean is important, why? What is he possibly going to offer to beat the reapers other than a gun, he's only going to provide backround information most likely about the prothean race which is something I feel will be for the fans who are into lore.

Why make the DLC free? They need to make money, they worked on it after the main game was complete. So just because they planned DLC ahead of time and completed it, it should be free right. CE people knew there was going to be an extra mission-squad mate that's why I bought it ahead of time. So if you make it free for everyone then you just ****** off the CE people.

Multiplayer is the free sort of thing this time around, and it's really damn amazing if you have not played it yet.

Why include the Codex? Why include reference to anything that doesn't directly impact what Shepard is doing?

Because some of us care about the lore and don't think we should NOT have to pay more to get it.

It's already been confirmed that you can get all the information the Prothean gives you in the base game.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

240 pages. Man, people love to complain just for the sake of complaining huh? I bet if no one found out that the extra squad mate from the CE was a prothean, we wouldn't all be having this debate right now. Funny how that works out.

[Mclouvins]

Hammer6767 wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

im saying that the SE players should be getting the exact same experience as the CE players are, since that is what bioware is advertising.  they did supposedly by the full version of the game right? 

the $20 you spend for extra stuff should NEVER be actual in game content.  cosmetic items, vanity pets, digital artwork, social items, etc  are all fair game.. actual missions and characters are not.

They absolutely did NOT advertise anything of that nature.  They have been clear as to what the CE edition was including (minus the nature of the character) from early on.

As for your second point, that is completly subjective and not indicative of any business reality for most developers out there today.

You're right on your second point Hammer. The objection raised is basically that it's okay to sell crap I don't care about but as soon as it doesn't suck and it's something I actually want it's unethical.

[Madkipz]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Madkipz wrote...

If they could give the dlc for free in the collectors edition then they could have given the dlc for free to all who buy the game new as Shale / Zaeed.

Ergo cut content for the average user with the intention to sell it as DLC.

It isn't cut content

it might just as well be.

How so?

Do I have to spell it out? It's the same kind of dlc they have released for free before, and they had time to insert the code into the collectors edition. Ergo they had the chance to reward the average user as before but instead saddled us with 10 dollar dlc.

Only a fool believes the official story.

No, you are asking them to treat you to a free companion and drawing comparisons to a very differant situation that has no relevance.  They released those things as free incentives to get new copies sold not as a reward for the average user.  For ME3, mulitplayer fills that role.  Now this DLC that was not cut from the main game and developed seperately is being sold as it's own entity and included as part of the CE extras.

And nothing was cut out purely to be resold later

Now you're just being stupid and reitterating me.

My point was always that the way this DLC was created does not matter. 

They would have been met with the same outrage if Shale was 10 bucks extra for the average user buying new upon release.

Except it wasn't because everyone knew Shale was only removed from the game due to time constraints.  How DLC is made matters, especially to half the people on this thread wrongly complaining that their SE copy is an incomplete game.

My point, is that this is not the same kind of DLC as Shale.  Shale was not intended to be apart from the main game when it was developed.  The Prothean was planned during the main game and developed afterwards.  If anything Shale would have been met with more outrage due to originally being part of the main game.

I'm not reiterating you.  I'm telling you that they never rewarded the average user out of the goodness of their hearts with free DLC, and with the multiplayer that role is filled already.  Did the point go over your head?

Multiplayer =/= prothean squadmate. Yea I'd rather the Multiplayer was the 10 dollar dlc.

[NoxJuked]

Yuoaman wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

I'm tired of this "I have a right to voice my opinion" okay was that something you all found out yesterday or something, and the rest of us don't know about it? We just don't want people hating for the wrong reasons when the game isn't even out yet or the DLC or hating the developers who put in hard work to complete both the main game and DLC ready for launch with blind reason.

You say porthean is important, why? What is he possibly going to offer to beat the reapers other than a gun, he's only going to provide backround information most likely about the prothean race which is something I feel will be for the fans who are into lore.

Why make the DLC free? They need to make money, they worked on it after the main game was complete. So just because they planned DLC ahead of time and completed it, it should be free right. CE people knew there was going to be an extra mission-squad mate that's why I bought it ahead of time. So if you make it free for everyone then you just ****** off the CE people.

Multiplayer is the free sort of thing this time around, and it's really damn amazing if you have not played it yet.

Why include the Codex? Why include reference to anything that doesn't directly impact what Shepard is doing?

Because some of us care about the lore and don't think we should NOT have to pay more to get it.

Right but what you don't understand is that all he might do is fill in small details, we don't even know if he has any recollection of what happened 50,000 years ago or if he's even that old. We already know enough about the protheans and we'll most likely find out more about them in ME3 without the prothean. Some people believe and want all protheans to stay dead in there RP playthrough so I'm glad it's optional.

[fropas]

wrdnshprd wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

ok.  after seeing some more of the replies by bioware i wanted to respond.

basically bioware's justification for making this paid DLC is that the DLC team worked on it AFTER the completion of the original game, and this particular team just so happened to get everything done before launch.

well, thats all well and good.  the problem is you are giving away the DLC to a portion of the playerbase (CE buyers), and requiring the rest of us 'normal' fans to spend an extra $10.

the reason this is an issue is because the SE version of the game is advertised to be the FULL VERSION. not ME 3 lite, the FULL VERSION.  well obviously, this isnt the case is it.  we have one version of the game where ALL CONTENT is accessible (CE), and one version where it is not (SE). 

as far as im concerned, both versions should have the exact same content and be the exact same experience, with the CE having some different flavor items.  things like vanity items, artwork, soundtracks, vanity pets, social clothes, etc are all fair game when it comes to CEs. thats why it costs an extra $20.  but requiring a certain portion of the playerbase to buy actual missions/characters to get an equal experience - when the SE version is advertised to be an equal experience - is what myself and TB take issue with.

yes, TB talked at length about how he felt that this DLC took development time away from the regular game, when obviously it didnt..

however, for those that watched the vid, i hope people can infer he took even more issue with the fact that this DLC was excluded from the main game to be monetized. and sorry guys thats EXACTLY what happened. 

there is ZERO reason why this DLC couldnt have been made new game incentive.. just like Zaeed and Shale were.  but bioware/EA decided to monetize it instead.  i, for one, think that is wrong and wont be supporting future games that do this. 

But you are getting the full game.  The CE buyers getting the DLC is because it's part of the goodies they get for buying the CE.  Are you honestly saying they should make the CE buyers pay $10 bucks as well, on TOP of of the $20+ they're already paying over retail?

im saying that the SE players should be getting the exact same experience as the CE players are, since that is what bioware is advertising.  they did supposedly by the full version of the game right? 

the $20 you spend for extra stuff should NEVER be actual in game content.  cosmetic items, vanity pets, digital artwork, social items, etc  are all fair game.. actual missions and characters are not.

Go watch the CE trailer. They never advertised that SE consumers would have the same content or "experience" as people who paid for a CE. However, I was promised an additional character and mission for spending 80$. I'm sorry you don't aggree, but I paid more money, so I'm entitled to more content.

[Yuoaman]

Mclouvins wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Mclouvins wrote...

rainasa wrote...

I'd rather they would have just sat on their asses for about a month and then released it, then their wouldnt be nearly as many issues with it as there are now.

Which just demonstates the madness of it all. This isn't even a new issue, the Prothean character page is 7 months old.

Except the pre-release material for the CE never said that the Prothean character was exclusive, I always assumed every player would get the chance to play it.

And I actually pre-ordered the CE, so it's not because I want free stuff.

I don't think anyone ever said it was supposed to be exclusive. What rainasa was saying I believe is that they should have waited for SE release for like a month and then people would just be glad they had the option. I for one initially pre-ordered the SE knowing full well that I wouldn't get said character but figured I would have a chance to pay for him later. Eventaully I decided I wanted the other stuff so I got the DDE but my point was that I never had reason to believe that I was going to get the Prothean just for purchasing the basic game.

No, I thought it was going to be in every game no matter how you bought it or which version of the game you bought. This is what I am saying.

[BTCentral]

Sleek wrote...

concidering they [the dlc] are over priced and lack in quality.

Have you seen what other companies are doing with DLC recently? Square Enix are charging $2.99/£1.59/1,99€/240 MSP for an outfit for a single character in FFXIII-2.

So, based on that, in Square Enix's opinion - ME3 has 7 confirmed characters - that's a minimum of $20.93 in value just for the alternate costumes. Story DLC? at least another $4.99 on top of that, a new weapon? That's another $1. That'd be $26.92 for this DLC in total, if Square Enix was calling the shots.

$10 doesn't seem so bad now, does it? Also, how do you know the DLC lacks quality? Have you played it?

Either way, I'm done with this topic now. It's just the same thing being repeated over and over.

Modifié par BTCentral, 24 février 2012 - 04:24 .

[Davidicus]

Hammer6767 wrote...

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy it.  It isn't part of the main game.  It is completely optional.  So, no, I don't understand why people get angry over it.  It is irrational.

It's simple (simply stupid): Because of the timing of the DLC release, and only because of its timing, people think BioWare somehow cut content from the main game out so that they could sell it as extra DLC. They feel that it IS part of the main game, despite what BioWare says. In any other setting, they'd be called crazy conspiracy theorists; on the Internet, they're just angry gamers.

It's most definitely irrational. This is EMOTIONAL outrage.

[PSUHammer]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

240 pages. Man, people love to complain just for the sake of complaining huh? I bet if no one found out that the extra squad mate from the CE was a prothean, we wouldn't all be having this debate right now. Funny how that works out.

Wow...based on the last few months of issues Bioware has had with Microsoft and their "leaks" I wonder how the professional relationship is doing, there.  MS dropped the ball a bunch of times with ME3.

[BTCentral]

Edit: Forum flaked out, double post.

Modifié par BTCentral, 24 février 2012 - 04:22 .

[Yuoaman]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

I'm tired of this "I have a right to voice my opinion" okay was that something you all found out yesterday or something, and the rest of us don't know about it? We just don't want people hating for the wrong reasons when the game isn't even out yet or the DLC or hating the developers who put in hard work to complete both the main game and DLC ready for launch with blind reason.

You say porthean is important, why? What is he possibly going to offer to beat the reapers other than a gun, he's only going to provide backround information most likely about the prothean race which is something I feel will be for the fans who are into lore.

Why make the DLC free? They need to make money, they worked on it after the main game was complete. So just because they planned DLC ahead of time and completed it, it should be free right. CE people knew there was going to be an extra mission-squad mate that's why I bought it ahead of time. So if you make it free for everyone then you just ****** off the CE people.

Multiplayer is the free sort of thing this time around, and it's really damn amazing if you have not played it yet.

Why include the Codex? Why include reference to anything that doesn't directly impact what Shepard is doing?

Because some of us care about the lore and don't think we should NOT have to pay more to get it.

It's already been confirmed that you can get all the information the Prothean gives you in the base game.

You can also learn all you need to learn about the universe without squadmates, should we just remove those optional things as well? It's different learning something secondhand.

[wrdnshprd]

Hammer6767 wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

ok.  after seeing some more of the replies by bioware i wanted to respond.

basically bioware's justification for making this paid DLC is that the DLC team worked on it AFTER the completion of the original game, and this particular team just so happened to get everything done before launch.

well, thats all well and good.  the problem is you are giving away the DLC to a portion of the playerbase (CE buyers), and requiring the rest of us 'normal' fans to spend an extra $10.

the reason this is an issue is because the SE version of the game is advertised to be the FULL VERSION. not ME 3 lite, the FULL VERSION.  well obviously, this isnt the case is it.  we have one version of the game where ALL CONTENT is accessible (CE), and one version where it is not (SE). 

as far as im concerned, both versions should have the exact same content and be the exact same experience, with the CE having some different flavor items.  things like vanity items, artwork, soundtracks, vanity pets, social clothes, etc are all fair game when it comes to CEs. thats why it costs an extra $20.  but requiring a certain portion of the playerbase to buy actual missions/characters to get an equal experience - when the SE version is advertised to be an equal experience - is what myself and TB take issue with.

yes, TB talked at length about how he felt that this DLC took development time away from the regular game, when obviously it didnt..

however, for those that watched the vid, i hope people can infer he took even more issue with the fact that this DLC was excluded from the main game to be monetized. and sorry guys thats EXACTLY what happened. 

there is ZERO reason why this DLC couldnt have been made new game incentive.. just like Zaeed and Shale were.  but bioware/EA decided to monetize it instead.  i, for one, think that is wrong and wont be supporting future games that do this. 

The flaw with your logic is where you say they are just "giving it away to the people who bought CE."  I purchased said CE version with the idea that I would be getting that character.  I knew I was paying $20 more than people who bought the main game with the understanding that I would be getting this content.  So, you only have to spend $10 more for the squadmate?  So what?  I spent $20 more.

right, and you also got all the following extras as well:

• Premium metal case featuring commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.
• 70-page hardbound art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.
• Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.
• Join the ranks of the N7 with the premium fabric N7 patch.
• Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.
• A full collection of in-game content that can't be found anywhere else!
  
  • N7 Arsenal Pack - Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
  • Robotic Dog - A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.
  • Squadmate Alternate Outfit Pack - New appearances for your favorite squad members.
  • N7 Hoodie - For Commander Shepard's casual days on board the Normandy.
• Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.
• Xbox LIVE Normandy prop for your Avatar. (Available on Xbox 360 version only.)
• Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.

that to me is well worth the $20.

also, as has been said a billion times.. the SE is supposed to be the full version of the game.. if a CE buyer gets access to a mission that a SE buyer has to pay extra for.. the SE buyer isnt getting the full version are they?

[Yuoaman]

NoxJuked wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

I'm tired of this "I have a right to voice my opinion" okay was that something you all found out yesterday or something, and the rest of us don't know about it? We just don't want people hating for the wrong reasons when the game isn't even out yet or the DLC or hating the developers who put in hard work to complete both the main game and DLC ready for launch with blind reason.

You say porthean is important, why? What is he possibly going to offer to beat the reapers other than a gun, he's only going to provide backround information most likely about the prothean race which is something I feel will be for the fans who are into lore.

Why make the DLC free? They need to make money, they worked on it after the main game was complete. So just because they planned DLC ahead of time and completed it, it should be free right. CE people knew there was going to be an extra mission-squad mate that's why I bought it ahead of time. So if you make it free for everyone then you just ****** off the CE people.

Multiplayer is the free sort of thing this time around, and it's really damn amazing if you have not played it yet.

Why include the Codex? Why include reference to anything that doesn't directly impact what Shepard is doing?

Because some of us care about the lore and don't think we should NOT have to pay more to get it.

Right but what you don't understand is that all he might do is fill in small details, we don't even know if he has any recollection of what happened 50,000 years ago or if he's even that old. We already know enough about the protheans and we'll most likely find out more about them in ME3 without the prothean. Some people believe and want all protheans to stay dead in there RP playthrough so I'm glad it's optional.

We do know some of this stuff, though - the Spoiler Group has been discussing it for quite some time.

[rainasa]

Madkipz wrote...

Multiplayer =/= prothean squadmate. Yea I'd rather the Multiplayer was the 10 dollar dlc.

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execpt that is your opinion, just because bioware choose one over the other doesnt mean there is some secret conspiracy. if you dont like that and dont want to pay 10$ then dont. its as simple as that.

[mrbauxjangles]

bioware ahould have made EDI the CE squadmate and prothean in from the start

[gabe2gg]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

So still nobody can tell me why this Prothean is so important...

Somehow they seem to think meeting a Prothean is something Bioware has no right to charge them for...

somehow you think Bioware actaully cares about its consumers and isnt out to make as much profit as possible.


Good lord EA has destroyed Bioware's vision.