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[CommanderCoffee]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Well damn. Time to get my popcorn and settle in.

That's hilarious, I'm actually popping a bag right now!

Sweet we can sit in the back and watch how far this thing explodes. I've never laughed so hard in my life. *pats my CE pre-order*

This interests me as an anthropologist. Funny how culture degrades so swiftly given anonimity. *shines my framed CE pre-order*

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

moonbal wrote...

Outrageous and unacceptable.
Sure you can say that this DLC was done after the game was completed. So what? Game's not released yet. Add it. Or allow free download for customers who purchase any version of the game.

Developers releasing games short of 100% and making DLCs for profit is getting way out of hand. This is especially rampant in console games (Japanese games are notorious offenders).
This was done purely for profit. And I'd like to believe EA had a hand in this.

Was looking forward to ME3 for a long time. Been playing ME2 all over again in anticipation but I'll not be getting the game until price plummets so low that the profit to EA would be a non-factor. Shame shame..

So if you were in charge you would offer it free , and miss out on the extra money that could be used to ME4 or a new game altogether.You'd rather tell employees no bonus for the job you did on that dlc because it free . I don't think it's going to go to well.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 24 février 2012 - 05:52 .

[Evilelf007]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Raxxman wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Bioware is loving this uproar guys. Those screaming bloody murder and screaming boycott are drawing casual fan's attention to the dlc. They may have not even considered the dlc before, but seeing how much uproar a few hard core fans are causing, they are much more likely to purchase it now.

All this uproar has done, is guarantee better sales of the very dlc you guys are railing against.

Bioware wins again!

Can't disagree more, this is a PR nightmare. The whole situation has backfired massively in BioWares face. Your implication is that casual fans are going to hear about the DLC and then make a choice about it. But this isn't how it's working. In my work I've already heard someone mention that BioWare aren't selling a complete game.

That's the general message going out to casuals. People on the fence about getting this game are being told not to bother.

The whole things a stinkstorm, and BioWare really should of known better. Round here people were just simmering down about the 'exclusive preorder content for everyone' which we don't get.

It's unquestionable that the response to Day 1 DLC is overwhelmingly negative, BioWare has been teetering on the edge about trying this for some time.

BioWare has ultimately lost this round, reputation does actually mean a lot, and the more the public image of BioWare goes from 'those guys who make good games' to 'those guys who try to milk their product from the start' the less inclined people are to take a leap of faith and buy a game when they're on the fence.

Funny... I also know of a couple people who had not even touched any of the games yet, but they asked me today if I had heard about this issue.  Turns out the issue opened their eyes to the series, they did some looking into and have since already pre-ordered the game!

And this will bring in new people who could care less about Prothean dlc , they just want enjoy the core game.

Which is just yet another way Bioware wins because of this free publicity!

[royard]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

[woods26]

Golden-Rose wrote...

Ooh, new outfits for everyone. I like. Hope we get to see them soon.

A video is coming sometime the devs said.

[PSUHammer]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Well damn. Time to get my popcorn and settle in.

That's hilarious, I'm actually popping a bag right now!

Sweet we can sit in the back and watch how far this thing explodes. I've never laughed so hard in my life. *pats my CE pre-order*

[Acidrain92]

anybody else find it funny how amongst hundreds of angry discussion posts there is at least like one that says something along the lines of "oh this DLC sounds great. cant wait to play it!"

oh how I wish I could go back to the days where I was like that..

[Chozo_Hybrid]

Golden-Rose wrote...

Ooh, new outfits for everyone. I like. Hope we get to see them soon.

So do I, I wanna see what I can make everyone look like, this dlc seems to come with a decent amount of content at least

[woods26]

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

Has it been confirmed that he's a biotic?

[Kevin Lozandier]

moonbal wrote...

Outrageous and unacceptable.
Sure you can say that this DLC was done after the game was completed. So what? Game's not released yet. Add it. Or allow free download for customers who purchase any version of the game.

Developers releasing games short of 100% and making DLCs for profit is getting way out of hand. This is especially rampant in console games (Japanese games are notorious offenders).
This was done purely for profit. And I'd like to believe EA had a hand in this.

Was looking forward to ME3 for a long time. Been playing ME2 all over again in anticipation but I'll not be getting the game until price plummets so low that the profit to EA would be a non-factor. Shame shame..

Again another person who is ignorant of what you're saying: You are underestimating how much time it takes to add something to a game and make it a core aspect of the game AND ignoring that you can't just say stop the presses, let's add this and **** the 100,000s copies of the game already on disc. 

[macdadams2]

Raxxman wrote...

BioWare has ultimately lost this round, reputation does actually mean a lot, and the more the public image of BioWare goes from 'those guys who make good games' to 'those guys who try to milk their product from the start' the less inclined people are to take a leap of faith and buy a game when they're on the fence.

^This.  I believe that PLENTY of ME3 copies will be sold.  People are extremely in love with this series and is nigh impossible to find the willpower to boycott.  However, Bioware's rep as a company is completely tarnished. They simply aren't what they use to be.  I think future projects will be at a severe disadvantage.  

People use to buy Bioware games just because they were Bioware games.  Not so sure this will be the case anymore.

[Travie]

Daywalker315 wrote...

Travie, Jessica Merizan just said this afternoon in the Reddit chat (paraphrase) that if this wasn't done as DLC then it wouldn't have happened at all. There was never a "let's rush and get it in the game" thing. The time and resources were budgeted in addition to making the core game. They felt the extra work that was put in to this PLANNED DLC (which has been advertised as a bonus to CE buyers for 9 months) should be available to everyone but at a price that helps them make money for their extra time spent making the content. It is their right and prerogative and to be honest, I respect them for working hard even after the game went off to certification to finish this so we can all enjoy it (if we want to) on our first playthrough.

Well I'm glad you can still have faith in them after all this. I honestly envy you that. 

When it comes to EA after all this time and all this PR spin, I can't bring myself to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[Kevin Lozandier]

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

How would you know?

[CitizenSnips]

woods26 wrote...

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

Has it been confirmed that he's a biotic?

Irrelevent. One of the worst arguments I've seen yet.

[squee365]

This thread makes me sick

Modifié par squee365, 24 février 2012 - 05:57 .

[CitizenSnips]

Travie wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

Travie, Jessica Merizan just said this afternoon in the Reddit chat (paraphrase) that if this wasn't done as DLC then it wouldn't have happened at all. There was never a "let's rush and get it in the game" thing. The time and resources were budgeted in addition to making the core game. They felt the extra work that was put in to this PLANNED DLC (which has been advertised as a bonus to CE buyers for 9 months) should be available to everyone but at a price that helps them make money for their extra time spent making the content. It is their right and prerogative and to be honest, I respect them for working hard even after the game went off to certification to finish this so we can all enjoy it (if we want to) on our first playthrough.

Well I'm glad you can still have faith in them after all this. I honestly envy you that. 

When it comes to EA after all this time and all this PR spin, I can't bring myself to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

But you can bring yourself to play the game for free. You're a ****ing hero.

[heart again]

moonbal wrote...

Outrageous and unacceptable.
Sure you can say that this DLC was done after the game was completed. So what? Game's not released yet. Add it. Or allow free download for customers who purchase any version of the game.

Why the hell would they do that?  CE was ALWAYS said to include a bonus character and mission.  But now that it sounds worthwhile sudddenly everyone "deserves" it for free.

Modifié par heart again, 24 février 2012 - 05:55 .

[woods26]

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

woods26 wrote...

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

Has it been confirmed that he's a biotic?

Irrelevent. One of the worst arguments I've seen yet.

I couldn't care less about the argument, I just want the answer.

Modifié par woods26, 24 février 2012 - 05:55 .

[TheGoddess0fWar]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Well damn. Time to get my popcorn and settle in.

That's hilarious, I'm actually popping a bag right now!

Sweet we can sit in the back and watch how far this thing explodes. I've never laughed so hard in my life. *pats my CE pre-order*

This interests me as an anthropologist. Funny how culture degrades so swiftly given anonimity. *shines my framed CE pre-order*

We can start a "CE Owners who DGAF group"

[royard]

Kevin Lozandier wrote...

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

How would you know?

Datamining from the demo.  Lots of his stuff is in the demo.  Including some of his audio files as a teammate.  There are a few posts in the other sections.

[Heimdall]

moonbal wrote...

Outrageous and unacceptable.
Sure you can say that this DLC was done after the game was completed. So what? Game's not released yet. Add it. Or allow free download for customers who purchase any version of the game.

Developers releasing games short of 100% and making DLCs for profit is getting way out of hand. This is especially rampant in console games (Japanese games are notorious offenders).
This was done purely for profit. And I'd like to believe EA had a hand in this.

Was looking forward to ME3 for a long time. Been playing ME2 all over again in anticipation but I'll not be getting the game until price plummets so low that the profit to EA would be a non-factor. Shame shame..

For christ's sake...

The ONLY reason bioware has ever released free day one DLC before was as an incentive to combat the used game market and piracy.  And you know what?  Their doing it again!  The multiplayer and Alliance network fill that role.  They are releasing this piece of DLC as it's own content and as a part of the package of CE buyers.

THIS IS NOT CUT CONTENT.  I'm not sure how often this needs to be said, but this is content that was planned while the core game was in developement and primarily developed only after the game went in for certification.  Someone who gets the SE is getting the 100% Mass Effect 3 experience.  Someone that gets DLC in addition or the CE is getting the 100% Mass Effect 3 experience plus extra.  In no way is Bioware shipping an incomplete game.

Of course their doing this for profit, bioware has always done things for profit.  They were a company long before EA came into the picture.

[CitizenSnips]

woods26 wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

woods26 wrote...

royard wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Extra?  Don't make me laugh. 

If you didn't notice...there is only one teammate with full biotic abilities, Liara.   A lot of people won't have Kaidan in their playthrough.  So, for a lot of people, if they want to use a biotic that's not liara or shepard, they have to buy the DLC. 

In contrast, you have 3 tech teammates plus Kaidan, and 2 combat teammates.  So no, Prothy is not extra content.  A lot of the squad composition actually was planned around him. 

Has it been confirmed that he's a biotic?

Irrelevent. One of the worst arguments I've seen yet.

I couldn't care less about the argument, I just want the answer.

I believe he is, at least partially if not fully.

[CommanderCoffee]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Well damn. Time to get my popcorn and settle in.

That's hilarious, I'm actually popping a bag right now!

Sweet we can sit in the back and watch how far this thing explodes. I've never laughed so hard in my life. *pats my CE pre-order*

This interests me as an anthropologist. Funny how culture degrades so swiftly given anonimity. *shines my framed CE pre-order*

We can start a "CE Owners who DGAF group"

Dibs on popcorn chef.

[heart again]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

So...when will this thread die again?

As long as people want extra content without paying for it, this thread will live.

Well damn. Time to get my popcorn and settle in.

That's hilarious, I'm actually popping a bag right now!

Sweet we can sit in the back and watch how far this thing explodes. I've never laughed so hard in my life. *pats my CE pre-order*

This interests me as an anthropologist. Funny how culture degrades so swiftly given anonimity. *shines my framed CE pre-order*

We can start a "CE Owners who DGAF group"

Sounds good.