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[Jynthor]

I can't believe anyone would try to defend this terrible DLC trend.
Seriously... No words.

[Coldburn]

Iyerbeth wrote...

I'm surprised so many who have pre ordered CE seem to be taking the view that "well I'm getting the full game so what does it matter?"

The thing is, you should also be getting the Prothean character DLC for free, not just being given the whole game in 2 parts and being told it's free DLC. The CE should have another DLC which should be a character not sensitive to the lore of the series.

Whether you're happy with the price, happy you're already getting it with the DLC, or unhappy, you're still being ripped off with this.

This is the deal. This.

[gabe2gg]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

We got 3 type of people here:
1- People crying because it's a dlc and it's a Protheans SO IT MUST BE IMPORTANT (in their mind)
2- People crying that it should not be a DLC but in the game
3- People who lol at #1 and 2

You on EAware's payroll or what?

This is Day 1 DLC that should and can be easily included on the regular disk. What happened to the good old days when companies would wait a number of months to release good and lengthy content? Either your a blind fanboy who thinks everything is fine since EA bought Bioware or your just trolling. I thought the toys/artbook DLC was bad but this takes it to a whole new level.

Modifié par gabe2gg, 23 février 2012 - 12:23 .

[RiouHotaru]

didymos1120 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

We got 3 type of people here:
1- People crying because it's a dlc and it's a Protheans SO IT MUST BE IMPORTANT (in their mind)
2- People crying that it should not be a DLC but in the game
3- People who lol at #1 and 2

4- People who understand why other people don't like this and think people in category three are kinda jerks.

Fair enough I'l give you a fourth category. But I'm a Renegade so I must be a jerk right? 

Don't get me wrong: there's definitely some whining going on, but that doesn't mean people in the first and second categories are all worth dismissing.

I feel the same way, but at the same time, they're complaining about being given the opportunity to get something that wasn't originally going to be available to them.  Like Sebastian from DA2.  If anything, I should switch from a CE to an SE and get the DLC and save myself $13 bucks.

[Corrik Ronis]

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Modifié par Corrik Ronis, 23 février 2012 - 12:22 .

[Oswald The Garden Gnome]

Morroian wrote...

DJBare wrote...
I've pre-ordered the CE and I disagree, "software" has never been part of the package for me just a bonus, it's the hard items that interest me such as the art book and N7 patch, that's where my extra $20 went.

Just on the $20, I'm in Australia and if I want the digital CE its $100, $40 more than standard prices.

this i find way more offensive

[Bluumberry]

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

No one cares that you get extra stuff. Thats what DLC is all about. But people actually care that the stuff you get is actually a HUGE thing in the Mass Effect Universe.

That is being treated with the same importance as Kasumi and Zaeed.  You don't see people complaining that they had to pay for Kasumi, even though she has "VITAL ALLIANCE SECRETS OMG," which could be a HUGE thing in the ME Universe.  People are feeling entitled to things they were never promised, and it's obnoxious.  

People will always feel entitled to something.

Or they'll use it as an excuse to pirate.

[Daywalker315]

padawanmage wrote...

My thing is...will NOT getting this DLC hurt the gaming experience for me? With what's in it, will I NOT be able to play the game? Just wondering...

I'm guessing you know the answer to this is no ... You'll absolutely be able to play and enjoy the game, save the galaxy, get the girl/guy, etc. People just need something to rage about and this is the new fuel for the fire.

[AK404]

DJBare wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

People who bought the CE, like myself, are paying an extra $20 for our content. So why should this DLC not cost money?

glad to see someone else say the same thing i said lastnight


cheers buddy!

I've pre-ordered the CE and I disagree, "software" has never been part of the package for me just a bonus, it's the hard items that interest me such as the art book and N7 patch, that's where my extra $20 went.

I would have to agree.  I bought the CE for the hard items and cosmetic stuff.  My cup runneth full already, but an extra character that everyone else has to pay money for?

That's a bit much, man.  Part of the ME fandom is that of the shared experience.  I'll buy the extra weapons, missions, and vestigal characters, but when it came to the core of the story, I was hoping we'd all be on the same page.

[davidt0504]

NO this does not make it better. If this character is not important at all and just a bone to throw at fans who have been drooling to see one then you're compromising your lore. If you're going to bring the protheans back it better be a pretty significant moment in the series not some half arsed side note.

[Eradyn]

PinkFloydMan73 wrote...

This is unacceptable. I understand that it was developed after the core game and by a seperate team. That's not an excuse to charage extra on release date. A seperate company does the digital effects for a movie after prinicipal photography has finished, but they don't charge us extra for those effects when we see that movie.

Except we knew about the prothean when the CE info was leaked way back, and development for him had already begun if one recalls that "really old script" that was leaked for ME3.  Other than that, I agree with the sentiment you have expressed.  While this doesn't directly affect me (as this is my final day-1 blind purchase of a BW game and I preordered the CE), I share others' grievances regarding the path BW is taking.

[Darji]

padawanmage wrote...

My thing is...will NOT getting this DLC hurt the gaming experience for me? With what's in it, will I NOT be able to play the game? Just wondering...

Do you actually care about the whole MAss effect Universe and its story. or do you just play it becauee you can shoot stuff and bang chicks?

If you actually care yes it will hurt your gaming experience. But if you dont even know who the prothean are than nah it wont hurt your personal experiance at all.

[CyberNinjaSensei]

Eain wrote...

I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.

If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.

Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.

Draw the line.

One game, one sale.

Consider this my RL version of Shep telling the Council they can cram the Spectre status up their ass. I'm more than willing to prove my complete and total disgust at the disrespect my once favorite developer has thrown at us all, in one way or another, in one game or another...

My receipt, showing my preorder for the N7 Edition of the game, on 18 July 2011. I only put $10 down at the time.



Now, the $70 I intended on using to pay off my preorder, which will now stay lovingly in my wallet. Or, until I need to put gas in my V8, AWD pollution machine...



And yes, once I cancel my preorder, I will most certainly post a pic of the receipt here for everyone to see. I'm making twice as much money now as I was at the time of my preorder and I will not abide by such brazen disregard for consumers and fellow gamers, whether it upsets a user on this forum or not.

You really outta be ashamed of yourdamnselves.

Modifié par CyberNinjaSensei, 23 février 2012 - 12:23 .

[Kroepoek]

Yuoaman wrote...

I hate how people defend this but don't even really understand what they're defending, this is a big deal whether you care about the DLC itself or not.

They defend it because they think it's the same ol Bioware. They defend because it's Bioware. Bioware = EA so they defend it.

I suppose around page 80 they will start using phrases such as  oh but I like it so I dont care what you think. Thats the point where they run out of made up arguments.

[Yuoaman]

Sidac wrote...

AK404 wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

People are taking this way too seriously.

Not really, man.  What's troubling isn't this one particular instance, as bad as it may be.

yes, you are. you really, REALLY are. This prothean will be another zaeed/kasumi. A total gimmick and have no real point to getting. You have the entire story being told without them. All they are is extra lines.

For the crybabies out there, COMPANIES HAVE DEADLINES! You have to get the main product done by that date. After that, while the product is being copied and shipped, you can do whatever the heck you want. Like, say, create another useless character.

i know deadlines are hard to understand to the simpleminded people of forums but its simple concept really.

****ing hell... the game was only finished a couple of weeks ago - the character was developed alongside it and in parallel. They did not just start this thing on a whim the second the game went gold, they've been planning this for at least a year.

[greenchef]

I don't hate this enough to cancel my pre-order, but there does seem to be a trend with this kind of thing.

[Paragon Auducan]

Just thought of the perfect analogy.

It would be like having Revan in A New Hope and we had to pay for him, also he just walks behind Luke and spouts out one liners.

[DJBare]

Morroian wrote...
Just on the $20, I'm in Australia and if I want the digital CE its $100, $40 more than standard prices.

That's due to your import taxes and have absolutely nothing to do with the actual value of the game.

[Sudsaroo]

suntzuxi wrote...

Sudsaroo wrote...

Why should any of you who didn't buy Collector's Edition be given the DLC for free?

Not everyone on BSN is a huge fan of mass effect. Why I want to spend more money for a game I probably only will play once or two.

If you're not a huge fan, then you most likely won't even care about the DLC, as it's pretty much just a treat to those interested in the lore.

[ForceXev]

Today it makes me sick that I was ever a fan of Mass Effect and Bioware.  I believe them when they say that ME3 will be a fully complete awesome game without the Prothean character, but there is simply no other word for this business other than extortion.  It should be illegal... I'm not even sure that it's not illegal already.  They know Mass Effect has a strong following, but instead of thanking their fans for supporting their games and making it the huge success it has been, they extort their fans by finding a way to dig deeper into our wallets.

You are robbing your fans.  This DLC is ready to go at the same time as the game.  You can make it available to everyone who, in this God-forsaken economy, are still willing to shell out $60 for your game.  You know full well the importance of a Prothean character to the story-line and that any fan will feel that a major element of the game is missed without it.  You're COUNTING on that fact.  You HOPE people will say "the game is incomplete without the Prothean" because you want us to pay through the nose.

You don't care about fans.  You just want more money.  You #$@%!

Michael Gamble wrote...

The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).

The version many fans WHO CAN AFFORD IT would be likely to purchase you mean.  To Hell with any fans who have limited budgets, right?  I feel Bioware spitting on me and laughing because I don't make as much money as their "better" fans who can spend $80 for one @$#*%*# game. 

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

ME3 just went gold 9 days ago.  You are lying or at least being very misleading, and it doesn't even matter because the content is ready on release day.  You have the option to make it available to everyone who buys the game on release day, and you are choosing to say "No, pay us more money."

You make me sick, EA Bioware.
:sick::sick::sick:

Modifié par ForceXev, 23 février 2012 - 12:25 .

[PinkFloydMan73]

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

No one cares that you get extra stuff. Thats what DLC is all about. But people actually care that the stuff you get is actually a HUGE thing in the Mass Effect Universe.

That is being treated with the same importance as Kasumi and Zaeed.  You don't see people complaining that they had to pay for Kasumi, even though she has "VITAL ALLIANCE SECRETS OMG," which could be a HUGE thing in the ME Universe.  People are feeling entitled to things they were never promised, and it's obnoxious.  

Kasumi wasn't a day-one DLC, though. Zaeed was, and he was free.

[Tazzmission]

instead of arguin about day one dlc lets all just speculate on how the council will react to seeing a live prothean in your squad

[Jackster94]

may somebody please clarify?
is the collectors edition and "from ashes" outfits different to one another?

[MarchWaltz]

I am very intrigued by this. A Prothean squad-made? NICE!

Oh, and re-visiting Eden Prime? EVEN BETTER.

ONLY TWO WEEKS? BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES BOYS!


or girls, whoever is on the crew at the moment.