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[Chala]

I guess this time I'm lucky for pre ordering the N7 edition. Because usually I don't buy dlc...

[BounceDK]

Total ripoff.

[RiouHotaru]

Dionkey wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
Did you read the post that's been made SEVERAL times by Stanley?  The Prothean was decided as being bonus content WELL IN ADVANCE.

I kind of want to take a cyanide capsule at this point, considering I've had to repeat this multiple times:

IF IT IS DONE BY DAY 1, RELEASE IT FOR FREE OR ON THE DISC. THERE SHOULD BE NO DAY-1 DLC.

So where's the cut-off then?  1 week?  2 weeks?  A month?  2 months?  When it is acceptable to start releasing DLC?

Also, think about what you're saying.  From Ashes was obviously finished AFTER the game went through final certification, at which point they're done with the game.  Would you rather they hold off on releasing him?  Or release him on Day 1 so folks can enjoy him.

Your "All or nothing" view doesn't quite hold up under pressure, you know.

[Obro]

Michael Gamble wrote...

As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC “ME3:From Ashes” on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday). 

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things... 

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike


 

So thank you long term fans for supporting us we will reward you by making you pay more to get something that should have been in the game.

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[Bluumberry]

Darji wrote...
Do you actually care about the whole MAss effect Universe and its story. or do you just play it becauee you can shoot stuff and bang chicks?

You sure are hung up on banging chicks.

[Darji]

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

No one cares that you get extra stuff. Thats what DLC is all about. But people actually care that the stuff you get is actually a HUGE thing in the Mass Effect Universe.

That is being treated with the same importance as Kasumi and Zaeed.  You don't see people complaining that they had to pay for Kasumi, even though she has "VITAL ALLIANCE SECRETS OMG," which could be a HUGE thing in the ME Universe.  People are feeling entitled to things they were never promised, and it's obnoxious.  

Except that the protheans are  a HUGE deal to the whole ME universe. They are the reason why shepard is the man he actually is.

[graciegrace]

Sidac wrote...

AK404 wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

People are taking this way too seriously.

Not really, man.  What's troubling isn't this one particular instance, as bad as it may be.

yes, you are. you really, REALLY are. This prothean will be another zaeed/kasumi. A total gimmick and have no real point to getting. You have the entire story being told without them. All they are is extra lines.

For the crybabies out there, COMPANIES HAVE DEADLINES! You have to get the main product done by that date. After that, while the product is being copied and shipped, you can do whatever the heck you want. Like, say, create another useless character.

i know deadlines are hard to understand to the simpleminded people of forums but its simple concept really.

And in the past, deadlines meant that content was just lost forever.  Now a days, they can continue to work on that content and release it later.

Not seeing how that's a problem.  I'd rather have more content than lose content.

[Yuoaman]

Jackster94 wrote...

may somebody please clarify?
is the collectors edition and "from ashes" outfits different to one another?

The N7 edition gets both packs of outfits, the DLC only gets the one pack.

[Vendrium]

I'm curious as to how many people are actually going to boycott the game (for whatever reason).
So I made a poll - please take a second to respond.

Thanks!

Link: social.bioware.com/3631664/polls/28724/

[Corrik Ronis]

yes, you are. you really, REALLY are. This prothean will be another
zaeed/kasumi. A total gimmick and have no real point to getting. You
have the entire story being told without them. All they are is extra
lines.

For the crybabies out there, COMPANIES HAVE DEADLINES!
You have to get the main product done by that date. After that, while
the product is being copied and shipped, you can do whatever the heck
you want. Like, say, create another useless character.

i know deadlines are hard to understand to the simpleminded people of forums but its simple concept really.

Then they are using a major part of the lore as nothing more than a shameless cash crab. This is just as bad.

[RiGoRmOrTiS_UK]

I've never been bothered about DLC in games; this is the first time I've actually been disgusted.

A character based on the central lore should be part of the game for free due to its significance to the story;
but they charge for it. If its ready for launch (certification be damned) it should be free for new copies like Zaeed was to encourage people to buy the game unused (at the very least). How can they charge
for something this important?

and to say its created by a seperate team? they are all working for the same pay master, Bioware!.  Assiging a few people a task to create a character is no different to having an art department or programmers working on certain elements of the game.. poor.. poor excuse.

Because I've played the previous two and must experience the ending its not enough to stop me buying the game

But I totally understand and support anyone who'll boycott the game because of this. DLC has finally stepped over the line.

AfterDA2's copy and paste content and this shameful exploitation of fans at the last hurdle; the next time Bioware release a game I'll be taking a few steps back and waiting to see what they do; if its more of the same then ME3 will be the last game I purchase from them.

I have the N7 edition on order so I'll not miss out; but to assume "true fans" will already have that pre-ordered so it doesn't matter everyone else misses out is insulting..

Modifié par RiGoRmOrTiS_UK, 23 février 2012 - 12:26 .

[El Ejcovero]

Jynthor wrote...

I can't believe anyone would try to defend this terrible DLC trend.
Seriously... No words.

Maybe...

Or maybe...

[rumbalumba]

Tazzmission wrote...

instead of arguin about day one dlc lets all just speculate on how the council will react to seeing a live prothean in your squad

yeah because a pre-recorded, imaginary group of people is at the top of everyone's list.

[ArkkAngel007]

Daywalker315 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

People who bought the CE, like myself, are paying an extra $20 for our content. So why should this DLC not cost money?

Because it shouldn't be DLC in the first place. The art book and soundtrack alone are worth the $20. It's CE owners who are the self entitled bunch not the standard edition guys and yet I myself ordered the CE.

i dont think im self entitled. if anything this is my thrid collectors edition i have ever bough with the other 2 beeing dead space 2 and mortal kombat


glad to see you think you know me and how i opperate

I'm not entitled either. I'm just saying from a marketing standpoint they have been marketing the bonus character as a bonus for purchasing the CE for months now. I purchased it in large part due to that. Knowing that, a lot of CE buyers would feel slighted if they now gave that "CE bonus" character away free to anyone who buys the standard edition.

This exactly.  I know everyone would love to have it, and people can say they don't care for CE and don't believe if it can get completed by launch, it should be free.  Well, that's not how it works, because people do buy CEs and there were people who were hired on the side to provide this content to us.  If they want to provide free DLC to us, that's up to EA, Microsoft, and Sony to say whether that is to be so or not, because they want to get their share before the money goes to the people who actually did the tremendous hours of work.

And again, why should something I payed extra for suddenly become free to everyone right from Day 1?  Down the line, I don't care.  But if suddenly I found myself wasting money from what I was promised that was on the value of that price, that would **** me off.

[graciegrace]

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

No one cares that you get extra stuff. Thats what DLC is all about. But people actually care that the stuff you get is actually a HUGE thing in the Mass Effect Universe.

That is being treated with the same importance as Kasumi and Zaeed.  You don't see people complaining that they had to pay for Kasumi, even though she has "VITAL ALLIANCE SECRETS OMG," which could be a HUGE thing in the ME Universe.  People are feeling entitled to things they were never promised, and it's obnoxious.  

Except that the protheans are  a HUGE deal to the whole ME universe. They are the reason why shepard is the man he actually is.

And you're assuming, for that reason alone, that the Prothean is of huge importance to ME3?

Forgive me for not making that completely baseless leap of logic.

[Darji]

Bluumberry wrote...

Darji wrote...
Do you actually care about the whole MAss effect Universe and its story. or do you just play it becauee you can shoot stuff and bang chicks?

You sure are hung up on banging chicks.

look at the character and romance thread. Is a huge topic for people who play Mass effect. Some even see it as a dating game. 

[N7Infernox]

CyberNinjaSensei wrote...

[
Consider this my RL version of Shep telling the Council they can cram the Spectre status up their ass. I'm more than willing to prove my complete and total disgust at the disrespect my once favorite developer has thrown at us all, in one way or another, in one game or another...

My receipt, showing my preorder for the N7 Edition of the game, on 18 July 2011. I only put $10 down at the time.

*pic*

Now, the $70 I intended on using to pay off my preorder, which will now stay lovingly in my wallet. Or, until I need to put gas in my V8, AWD pollution machine...

*pic*

And yes, once I cancel my preorder, I will most certainly post a pic of the receipt here for everyone to see. I'm making twice as much money now as I was at the time of my preorder and I will not abide by such brazen disregard for consumers and fellow gamers, whether it upsets a user on this forum or not.

You really outta be ashamed of yourdamnselves.

*applauds*
A BSN-ite, true to his word haha

[Major Alenko]

Tazzmission wrote...

instead of arguin about day one dlc lets all just speculate on how the council will react to seeing a live prothean in your squad

haha I Lol'd Nice haha 

[Darji]

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Darji wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

No one cares that you get extra stuff. Thats what DLC is all about. But people actually care that the stuff you get is actually a HUGE thing in the Mass Effect Universe.

That is being treated with the same importance as Kasumi and Zaeed.  You don't see people complaining that they had to pay for Kasumi, even though she has "VITAL ALLIANCE SECRETS OMG," which could be a HUGE thing in the ME Universe.  People are feeling entitled to things they were never promised, and it's obnoxious.  

Except that the protheans are  a HUGE deal to the whole ME universe. They are the reason why shepard is the man he actually is.

And you're assuming, for that reason alone, that the Prothean is of huge importance to ME3?

Forgive me for not making that completely baseless leap of logic.

Do you even know who the protheans are?

[RiouHotaru]

Fix1o0 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

I hate how people defend this but don't even really understand what they're defending, this is a big deal whether you care about the DLC itself or not.

They defend it because they think it's the same ol Bioware. They defend because it's Bioware. Bioware = EA so they defend it.

I suppose around page 80 they will start using phrases such as  oh but I like it so I dont care what you think. Thats the point where they run out of made up arguments.

"Run out of arguments?"  No no no, it's more like "What's the point of arguing with a brick wall?"  Clearly you've made up your mind, and only a radical change which Bioware is guaranteed to NOT do will change your mind.  So why bother?

Choosing not to argue with someone who doesn't care and won't consider your point of view isn't a sign of weakness.

[nevar00]

Hm, I thought I posted this before but I guess not.

The way I see it, there are really only two outcomes here:

1. As the team has commented, the Prothean is not an integral part of the story and adds such little to the lore and plot of the game that releasing it for day 1 DLC is justified. If this is the case, then I would question the writers and game designers who thought that making a living Prothean non-essential to the whole game's experience was the right decision to make.

2. The Prothean adds a substantial amount to the lore, plot, and game, even if the game can still be beaten without the character (think ME1 without Wrex or ME2 without Legion). In this case it's ridiculous to sell a piece of the unfinished product for extra money.

Either way I can't see Bioware and EA coming out of this looking good.

[Yuoaman]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
Did you read the post that's been made SEVERAL times by Stanley?  The Prothean was decided as being bonus content WELL IN ADVANCE.

I kind of want to take a cyanide capsule at this point, considering I've had to repeat this multiple times:

IF IT IS DONE BY DAY 1, RELEASE IT FOR FREE OR ON THE DISC. THERE SHOULD BE NO DAY-1 DLC.

So where's the cut-off then?  1 week?  2 weeks?  A month?  2 months?  When it is acceptable to start releasing DLC?

Also, think about what you're saying.  From Ashes was obviously finished AFTER the game went through final certification, at which point they're done with the game.  Would you rather they hold off on releasing him?  Or release him on Day 1 so folks can enjoy him.

Your "All or nothing" view doesn't quite hold up under pressure, you know.

They should have released him like they did Zaeed - free for new copies, but people buying used have to buy an online pass. And Zaeed was NOWHERE near as important to the Mass Effect mythos as the Prothean is.

[Dionkey]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...
Did you read the post that's been made SEVERAL times by Stanley?  The Prothean was decided as being bonus content WELL IN ADVANCE.

I kind of want to take a cyanide capsule at this point, considering I've had to repeat this multiple times:

IF IT IS DONE BY DAY 1, RELEASE IT FOR FREE OR ON THE DISC. THERE SHOULD BE NO DAY-1 DLC.

So where's the cut-off then?  1 week?  2 weeks?  A month?  2 months?  When it is acceptable to start releasing DLC?

Also, think about what you're saying.  From Ashes was obviously finished AFTER the game went through final certification, at which point they're done with the game.  Would you rather they hold off on releasing him?  Or release him on Day 1 so folks can enjoy him.

Your "All or nothing" view doesn't quite hold up under pressure, you know.

A month seems reasonable, in my honest opinion. Think about how Zaeed was handled, friend, this is not a new concept.

[Waage25]

Now this should be coming with the version i am getting, but it is still BULL**** that a integral part of the story that helps to flesh out every thing is removed.
This is bull****.