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[heart again]

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

[LonnyG]

MonkeySeeker wrote...

LonnyG wrote...

Is there maybe anybody that thinks that there is maybe a little change that the prothean is already in the game but that he only becomes a squadmember with a mission if you have the DLC???

I have seen this mentioned a few times.

Like here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/8006985/175#9436591

Jessica Merizan neither confirmed or denied but said it may be on the right train of thought.

If it really is then all this BS is for nothing so why don't wait before crushing each other skulls..

[MageCeridan]

Rdubs wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

I think almost everyone would agree day 1 DLC that comes out and was worked on while the core game was being worked on is bad. Bioware came out and said that this DLC was worked on while the core game was trying to go gold already, which means they worked on it after. As for the 9 month ago leaks, was most likely just the idea pitched in the office etc it doesn't mean they were working on it unless you have proof? Right none of us do so anything that goes against what Bioware said about the DLC so far feels like a conspiracy theory about how EA/Bioware is trying to milk the consumer for more money.

Do I fully believe either side though, no. I will hold rage until after the game is out and determine if they really swindled me for money, if they did oh well 10$ can't ****ing regret it I won't buy another game but this scenario is very doubtful as they have provided great DLC, multiplayer, and 3 fantastic games I have bought from them ME1, 2, and Dragon Age: Origins.

PLEASE stop repeating everything you hear from a Bioware PR person as fact without checking.  Here is proof that this was more than just a concept pitched during a management meeting a couple months ago.  Look at the date and understand that for something like this to make it into marketing materials, it had to have been approved at some level.
http://social.biowar...index/7551111/1

Iterative development.
(see: 
http://en.wikipedia....ive_development ) is a development method where the different ressources work in parrallel. It is possible that while most of the game was in the implementation/QA phases, the conception team was working on the design of the DLC. That's the advantage of Iterative development compared to a waterfall method that most people think all software is developped in
So it's possible that they started to outline the character back 9 months aggo, and back 6 months aggo, they may have recorded the VO of the character, specially if the character is presend in SE as an NPC. But while the VO was done, the rest of the content was not  implemented (Mission zones for instance).

Note: I am suspecting that Bioware uses Iterative dev model, like most game makers now days.

[Arcadian Legend]

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

*****ing. *****ing never changes.

[ZX12r Ninja]

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

HELL NO!! That would be one of the biggest spoilers ever!

[OdanUrr]

LonnyG wrote...

MonkeySeeker wrote...

LonnyG wrote...

Is there maybe anybody that thinks that there is maybe a little change that the prothean is already in the game but that he only becomes a squadmember with a mission if you have the DLC???

I have seen this mentioned a few times.

Like here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/8006985/175#9436591

Jessica Merizan neither confirmed or denied but said it may be on the right train of thought.

If it really is then all this BS is for nothing so why don't wait before crushing each other skulls..

Because we need to get to 500 pages?

[Daywalker315]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

 

Oh that would make it alot worst... some much worst matter of fact... I hope its not true.

Huh? To me that would make the most sense. Personally I don't care either way TBH, but a Liara-type deal where you're able to interact with her and find out story bits without the DLC makes sense IF Prothy has any role at all in the main narrative of the story. If he's completely added on for lore's sake, then who cares. He won't be important to the story and people who want the lore can do the mission and those who want to pretend he never existed can do so.

[heart again]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

LonnyG wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

LonnyG wrote...

Is there maybe anybody that thinks that there is maybe a little change that the prothean is already in the game but that he only becomes a squadmember with a mission if you have the DLC???

I do, infact I pitched it yesterday in this thread but nobody cared.

i really think he is in it. bioware knows how important he is so..

He might be in it in the sense that Grunt was in ME2 without opening his tube. In that, all you see is a sleeping beauty Prothean, and with the DLC you can give him a smooch, to wake him up. 

I like you.

[Daywalker315]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

*****ing. *****ing never changes.

Truer words have never been uttered.

[nitefyre410]

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

[Daywalker315]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Lorfean wrote...

I don't expect to be "showered with gifts" at all, but I expect BioWare to understand that denying players a squad member because they chose to buy the standard version of the game instead of one of the fancy pimped up versions is a stupid-ass move. I don't care if CE buyers get extra weapons, hoodies, dogs that follow them around... I could even accept a side mission or two of some kind, but squad members are an integral part of the game and this guy is extremely interesting lore-wise and his mission has great nostalgic potential for any longtime fan of the series. *That* is what I have a problem with. Everything considered, the content sounds like it definitely *should* be part of the full experience, but it isn't.

 

^   He gets it...

^No he doesn't, and neither do you. He said "denying players a squad member". Wrong. No one is denying anybody anything. You can buy it as DLC. That is not being denied something. That is just being asked to pay extra for extra content that is non-essential to the main story of ME3, which is killing reapers, not "learning more about the guys who died out 50,000 years ago".

 
Whats funny is they tested it with Sebastion but none "cared " enough to notice

playable/usable squadsmates are now  considered by Bioware to be Collector Editon bonus items or "paid"  Day 1 DLC because "they say" its  Extra... Okay...  I don't care if it was some kind of joke Dan like character or  a freaking Mini-game.    If they cut  him they should in pre-production because of cost or whatever then thats it ... but don't throw it under a "Exclusive Collectors" Bonus then play  "Oh  look how kind we are "   then charge  everyone else $10 bucks to everyone else.   Then  throw out  the BS  line of  "Well  we wanted to find away to get him in game because he was so awesome and we did not want to cut."  I honestly don't care if  they  a seperate development team working on it or not.

That is called bull****..  But sitting here and going back forth about its  not going to change it - not at it.  So they can stick by their policy  - well with in there rights.  Guess whats with in my right.... not to buy into it and I won't.  

I'm a Consumer  and Customer first and fan second.    So from here on out  I'll will be buying  Bioware games from the used section and  not the new section.

They never said anything like "Well we wanted to find a way to get him in game because he was so awesome and we did not want to cut." It's been planned DLC for a minimum of 9 months for the CE. That's what it keeps coming back to for me. They didn't cut this out at the last minute and they're not depriving anyone of a potentially amazing main story and a huge game. Those who want the lore and goofy voice of this ugly Prothean can pay for it. Myself, I ordered the CE in very large part due to this DLC. It's been marketed that way for months, as a bonus to the CE.

Should it be free for everyone? Meh, that's not for me to decide. However, as it stands now, the fact that SE buyers think they should get for free what CE buyers paid extra for is insulting.

Modifié par Daywalker315, 24 février 2012 - 03:25 .

[obie191970]

Everyone on here is attempting to pump up the significance of the Prothean to the main story when it's obvious that the writers have deemed him insignificant. Otherwise, he wouldn't be DLC and would be included as a squad member in the main game.

[MageCeridan]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

actually I don't think it was a case of "we don't have time to include it" and more of the case of "we need to give inceintives for people to buy the CE/DDE".

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

(reference: OP)

[ZX12r Ninja]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

In that case, I think the law should be changed and we should have the legal right to brutally murder the nay sayers in this thread, prefferably with a rusty saw.

[rainasa]

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

he isnt in the main game at all. but at the same time all the infomation you get from both javick (the prothean squadmate) and from "from ashes" is in the game, either told by other people or in the codex.

also the dev's have said repeatadly that javick was simply NOT going to be in ME3, and instead of just gutting him completely they gave their fans the OPTION of getting him as EXTRA content. 

Modifié par rainasa, 24 février 2012 - 03:28 .

[ZX12r Ninja]

rainasa wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

he isnt in the main game at all. but at the same time all the infomation you get from both javick (the prothean squadmate) and from "from ashes" is in the game, either told by other people or in the codex

And you know this... how?

[Daywalker315]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

heart again wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Seriously, if the Prothean is actually in the game even without the DLC (but not as a squadmate) all the ****ing would stop. Bioware! Answer this!

I would agree with you but apparently it wouldn't because then they would be missing out on the interactions with him on Eden Prime.

wat...

 

basically Bioware story  or explaination is that  they want to make this available to everyone  but they could not get it in the game in time so they made it a DLC ..

If the  everything dealing with the Prothean is in the game but the Mission and the  ability to use  him...

Head for the hills.

In that case, I think the law should be changed and we should have the legal right to brutally murder the nay sayers in this thread, prefferably with a rusty saw.

Motion seconded. Seriously nite, stop making stuff up. It's been ANNOUNCED DLC for 9 months, and planned for who knows how much longer than that. They were never trying to get it done to be put on the disc and never said anything to indicate that.

[StephanieBengal]

The power of 10 dollars...

[MonkeySeeker]

StephanieBengal wrote...

The power of 10 dollars...

EA didn't have a whole project based around it for nothing

[obie191970]

StephanieBengal wrote...

The power of 10 dollars...

Lunch...two beers...movie ticket....

[Daywalker315]

obie191970 wrote...

StephanieBengal wrote...

The power of 10 dollars...

Lunch...two beers...movie ticket....

Amazing what people will have a heart attack over, huh?

[Exia001]

StephanieBengal wrote...

The power of 10 dollars...

Testify